Law Applicants 2011 Offer Thread

Original post by adam0311

Nice combo you got there brah!

Umad?

Just kidding, cheers mate :smile:

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Reply 1901

Original post by teaandcoffee

Sorry to butt in - But I think maybe most unis could do interviews for law like Oxbridge do, I think Cambridge have their own law test now? So all unis could have their own kind of law test :dontknow:

Oh well! I don't think the LNAT will ever disappear, there is also argument that the UKCAT isn't a real measure of someone's aptitude for medicine! Also, well done on your offers :smile:

I think things would be perhaps fairer with interviews for all, there are some things to consider though, some people will be naturally more shy than others, and may not demonstrate their true potential at interviews. Whilst at Oxbridge, interviews are pretty much imperative due to the teaching style, at other places say, Nottingham, the teaching style won't require interviews, and so I can understand them not requiring them, the sheer number of applicants would be off-putting too.

I think a Cambridge style Law test would be the best idea though like you say.
Thank you for the congrats, how have you done this year?

Original post by Doughnuts!!

I was tired when I made that point about the percentages. I realise that it doesn't make much sense!

I'd prefer something similar to the OCR Critical Thinking papers with maybe a few logic based Qs thrown in. Now that would really test aptitude for Law.

It's fine, I've said more illogical things :teeth:

I can see that working for sure, but you'd need to really make sure it achieves the parity the LNAT achieves now.

Reply 1902

Original post by Cast.Iron

Umad?

Just kidding, cheers mate :smile:

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Have to agree with Adam, that is a very desirable position to be in :colone:

Reply 1903

Original post by Mann18

Have to agree with Adam, that is a very desirable position to be in :colone:

Now just to get the grades :biggrin:

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You're a re-applicant, right? So you have an unconditional from Oxford?

Reply 1904

Lis10

Original post by danielsmith

Interview at York :smile:

Yes, mine came today as well! Good luck :smile:

Reply 1905

adam0311

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Original post by Cast.Iron

Umad?

Just kidding, cheers mate :smile:

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haha oh you got me fuming brah

u already firm/insurance everything?

Reply 1906

Original post by adam0311

haha oh you got me fuming brah

u already firm/insurance everything?

Not yet, I want to hold out to see if Kent give me an offer (not because I plan to insure them, just because I want to get all five!) and then I am 90% sure that I will choose Durham over Bristol. I just do not want to rush into anything.

Reply 1907

krishanchopra

Your application is no longer being considered by University College London (University of London) for Law, M100 because either they have decided not to offer you a place or your application has been withdrawn. The reason is given below.
Your application has been unsuccessful

Regrettably, your performance in the LNAT does not meet the required level for further consideration of your application.

Reply 1908

adam0311

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Original post by Cast.Iron

Not yet, I want to hold out to see if Kent give me an offer (not because I plan to insure them, just because I want to get all five!) and then I am 90% sure that I will choose Durham over Bristol. I just do not want to rush into anything.

Your debating between that? Come on now...

Reply 1909

krishanchopra

Got a rejected from UCL for law today cos of LNAT. see below..

Your application is no longer being considered by University College London (University of London) for Law, M100 because either they have decided not to offer you a place or your application has been withdrawn. The reason is given below.
Your application has been unsuccessful

Regrettably, your performance in the LNAT does not meet the required level for further consideration of your application.

Reply 1910

Original post by Cast.Iron

Now just to get the grades :biggrin:

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You're a re-applicant, right? So you have an unconditional from Oxford?

Make sure you do :colonhash:

Yeah, a lovely Unconditional from the ford of Ox.

Or something like that.

Reply 1911

danielsmith

Original post by Lis10

Yes, mine came today as well! Good luck :smile:

Good luck!

Reply 1912

Original post by teaandcoffee

I have just studies sociology, so apologies for my sociological-ness coming in here!

Everyone isn't in the same boat with regards to the LNAT. Middle-class parents socialise and teach their children important, crucial reasoning and problem solving schools essential for educational sucess. Middle class children also use the 'elaborated speech' - the code used in the education system and beyond. However, it is argued working-class parents do not socialise their children adequately with these essential skills and speech code, so therefore fail at school, etc etc.

So! I think that this can have an impact on the LNAT. I am from a working class background and I have done the LNAT twice! So.. I don't know, I think middle-class applicants probs are more likely to do better on the LNAT as a result of what I described above! It would make an interesting sociology experiment!

Nonetheless, I am just trying to justify why my LNAT score this year was so poor! :tongue:

Well, whether that's the case or not, it would be unfair for universities to discrimate against middle class applicants because "theoretically" they should do better than working class ones. The LNAT is meant to be an equaliser in that you can't prepare for it. If you happen to have a better aptitude for whatever reason, then there's not a lot than can really be done.

I'm also from a working class background, and hold an offer from UCL, so my LNAT couldn't have been that terrible. I guess there are exceptions to every case.

Reply 1913

Original post by krishanchopra

Your application is no longer being considered by University College London (University of London) for Law, M100 because either they have decided not to offer you a place or your application has been withdrawn. The reason is given below.
Your application has been unsuccessful

Regrettably, your performance in the LNAT does not meet the required level for further consideration of your application.

OUCH. Is that all the email/letter says? That's almost as harsh as the Oxford rejection letter!

Reply 1914

Original post by Doughnuts!!

I was tired when I made that point about the percentages. I realise that it doesn't make much sense!

I'd prefer something similar to the OCR Critical Thinking papers with maybe a few logic based Qs thrown in. Now that would really test aptitude for Law.

I've done the OCR CT exam and I'd say that the LNAT is very similar to the multiple choice questions for the AS exam, just with slightly longer passages. Obviously it would be unfair for the LNAT to start asking about vested interest/relativity etc [as the CT exams do] because that's something that's quite specific to the CT course, so CT students would have a huge advantage over those who don't have that opportunity.

Reply 1915

Original post by adam0311

Your debating between that? Come on now...

Have you ever been to Bristol? It's a fantastic city and the Law School is regarded as being in the same tier as Durham (albeit towards the bottom of said tier). I wasn't too taken by the city of Durham but I love the collegiate system, know that the Law School is better and I actually prefer the course (it's more flexible). So yeah, I am pretty much sure that I will be choosing Durham.

Original post by Mann18

Make sure you do :colonhash:

Yeah, a lovely Unconditional from the ford of Ox.

Or something like that.

I will, good sir.

Splendid! I am sure that an unconditional from Oxbridge is more desirable than a conditional from Cambridge and Durham!

Reply 1916

Original post by Cast.Iron

I will, good sir.

Splendid! I am sure that an unconditional from Oxbridge is more desirable than a conditional from Cambridge and Durham!

Well, at my stage yes :p:

, but at your stage, (i.e. pre-A-Levels) you're looking at the second best possible combination (Oxford and Durham being number one of course :colonhash:

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This will probably garner some negative feeling (from people going to London,) but remember, I don't like London :h:

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Reply 1917

Original post by teaandcoffee

This ^

I think a large part of the LNAT is down to luck too. Especially with what essay questions come up, all 5 of mine this year were ones that I couldn't think of anything to say for, whereas a friend of mine had 5 perfectly decent essay titles.

Oh well, I'm still going to study law somewhere :smile:

Yes, I do agree that I am not wholly au fait with the essay part. I does seem unfair that certain people get certain essay questions and others get completely different ones. However I don't think it would be possible to change that because obviously Pearson couldn't set the same 5 essay questions for everyone, but have those taking the LNAT in September tell people taking it in December what the questions are!!

I guess the idea is that Law students are expected to have a certain amount of general knowledge about current affairs to be able to answer sufficiently one of the 5 questions. Also, I'm led to believe that it's not really the content that you put in the essay that counts, more the way in which you write it. I had a beast of a question along the lines of "it is the mother who should be solely responsible for bringing up the child," for which my arguments (against) were terrible and quite predictable, but I think I structured my essay fairly well. Well, UCL gave me an offer so... :confused:

Reply 1918

krishanchopra

Original post by LornaSandison1

OUCH. Is that all the email/letter says? That's almost as harsh as the Oxford rejection letter!

Yup, thats it!

Quite annoyed that they took 2 months to come up with that lol.

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