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Is Cambridge Transfer during Undergrad possible?

The Cambridge Colleges will not normally, as a matter of principle, consider applications from students attending other UK universities applying to study the same or a very similar subject at Cambridge. If you wish to make such an application, it must be strongly supported by your tutor at your current university. A reference or letter of recommendation from him/her to the Cambridge College will be required, and only then can a Cambridge College consider it.

If you wish to apply to Cambridge to study a different subject from the one you’re currently studying at a UK university, we would assume that you’d had a change of heart and no longer wish to study the subject you are currently pursuing. In this case your application would be considered, but would still need strong support from your current university tutor.

If you’re in the final year of a Bachelors degree at another UK university, you are, of course, welcome to apply for admission as an affiliated student.


What does this mean?
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Reply 1
Hmm.. strange.
Then why does it say I can make such an application?
Reply 2
Original post by uberboss
Hmm.. strange.
Then why does it say I can make such an application?


You mean affiliated student? Read more about it here: http://www.cam.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/mature/affiliated.html
Reply 3
The Cambridge Colleges will not normally, as a matter of principle, consider applications from students attending other UK universities applying to study the same or a very similar subject at Cambridge. If you wish to make such an application, it must be strongly supported by your tutor at your current university. A reference or letter of recommendation from him/her to the Cambridge College will be required, and only then can a Cambridge College consider it.
^They do accept transfers, it is just very rare that they even consider it.

Is anyone familiar with those?
Thanks Noodlzzz.
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Original post by uberboss
I am in love with UCL, but it only offers a very specific course, IMHO.
I wanted to study the current financial crisis and have it as my dissertation.

I didn't mean an affiliated student, but a transfer student.

The Cambridge Colleges will not normally, as a matter of principle, consider applications from students attending other UK universities applying to study the same or a very similar subject at Cambridge. If you wish to make such an application, it must be strongly supported by your tutor at your current university. A reference or letter of recommendation from him/her to the Cambridge College will be required, and only then can a Cambridge College consider it.
^They do accept transfers, it is just very rare that they even consider it.

Is anyone familiar with those?
Thanks Noodlzzz.


You've misunderstood it, it means you can apply to start again at Cambridge, not to transfer.
Reply 5
Uhmm, I do not think so.

Possibility 1:
The Cambridge Colleges will not normally, as a matter of principle, consider applications from students attending other UK universities applying to study the same or a very similar subject at Cambridge. If you wish to make such an application, it must be strongly supported by your tutor at your current university. A reference or letter of recommendation from him/her to the Cambridge College will be required, and only then can a Cambridge College consider it.
^Transfer application.

Possibility 2:
If you wish to apply to Cambridge to study a different subject from the one you’re currently studying at a UK university, we would assume that you’d had a change of heart and no longer wish to study the subject you are currently pursuing. In this case your application would be considered, but would still need strong support from your current university tutor.
^Reapplying for a different course.

Possibility 3:
If you’re in the final year of a Bachelors degree at another UK university, you are, of course, welcome to apply for admission as an affiliated student.
^Affiliated student.
Original post by uberboss
Uhmm, I do not think so.

Possibility 1:
The Cambridge Colleges will not normally, as a matter of principle, consider applications from students attending other UK universities applying to study the same or a very similar subject at Cambridge. If you wish to make such an application, it must be strongly supported by your tutor at your current university. A reference or letter of recommendation from him/her to the Cambridge College will be required, and only then can a Cambridge College consider it.
^Transfer application.

Possibility 2:
If you wish to apply to Cambridge to study a different subject from the one you’re currently studying at a UK university, we would assume that you’d had a change of heart and no longer wish to study the subject you are currently pursuing. In this case your application would be considered, but would still need strong support from your current university tutor.
^Reapplying for a different course.

Possibility 3:
If you’re in the final year of a Bachelors degree at another UK university, you are, of course, welcome to apply for admission as an affiliated student.
^Affiliated student.


E-mail a college and ask. However, reading it, I don't think it's transfers. It talks about "applications" which suggests you are applying for the whole 3 years - it would say transfers if it meant transfers, I think. Furthermore, unlike most unis, the way Cambridge degrees work is that you have it in "Parts" and many degrees therefore have every year technically count (for example, I have IA, IB and II. I'd cite II as my overall degree grade but all 3 actually count). As you won't have completed a "part", you'd have to start over. You can change subjects within Cambridge because you have already completed a "Part" generally and you thus combine subjects into your degree. But you won't have a "Part" from another uni.

That's how I read it anyway. As I say, if you're really intent, check with the University itself.
Reply 7
Thanks, I understood it now.
Thanks everyone! :biggrin:
No. It is talking about students who get into one uni to do a subject and then want to apply to cambridge to do the same subject because it is more prestigious. They are politely saying '**** off, you had your chance, let us move onto next years school leavers'.
Reply 9
Original post by uberboss
I am in love with UCL, but it only offers a very specific course, IMHO.
I wanted to study the current financial crisis and have it as my dissertation.

I didn't mean an affiliated student, but a transfer student.

The Cambridge Colleges will not normally, as a matter of principle, consider applications from students attending other UK universities applying to study the same or a very similar subject at Cambridge. If you wish to make such an application, it must be strongly supported by your tutor at your current university. A reference or letter of recommendation from him/her to the Cambridge College will be required, and only then can a Cambridge College consider it.
^They do accept transfers, it is just very rare that they even consider it.

Is anyone familiar with those?
Thanks Noodlzzz.


Ah I see what you mean. The 'not normally' refers to allowing you to apply for year 1 entry not transfer. Transferring is absolutely not going to happen.

If you did want to apply to start all over again, because pps is slightly different to ESPS some colleges will allow you to apply, but you'll have to email all the ones your interested in to find out if they will let you.
Reply 10
When Cambridge admissions people say "not normally" what they usually mean is "not", so it's quite unlikely. Would you be able to transfer to a different course at UCL? Because then you might be able to find one which better fits the dissertation you want to write.
Reply 11
Original post by nuodai
When Cambridge admissions people say "not normally" what they usually mean is "not", so it's quite unlikely.

:ditto:
Especially if this is followed by the phrase 'as a matter of principle'...
Reply 12
Original post by hobnob
:ditto:
Especially if this is followed by the phrase 'as a matter of principle'...


I don't know if your referring to transferring or reapplying, but 1/4 of the colleges will allow you to reapply for PPS if your currently studying a similar degree.
Reply 13
Original post by Noodlzzz
I don't know if your referring to transferring or reapplying, but 1/4 of the colleges will allow you to reapply for PPS if your currently studying a similar degree.

The point is that the phrasing on the website makes it quite clear that they're reluctant to even consider (never mind admit) this type of candidate. And if 1/4 colleges are willing to consider such applications for PPS, that obviously means that 3/4 colleges refuse to consider them, so it's not exactly a contradiction, is it?:dontknow:
Reply 14
I don't know if your referring to transferring or reapplying, but 1/4 of the colleges will allow you to reapply for PPS if your currently studying a similar degree.

Are you sure about this?
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Reply 15
Original post by uberboss
Are you sure about this?

Let me tell you my story.

In UCL, I will be taking the following courses:
One compulsory unit:
SESS1101 Introduction to Politics (1.0 cu)
SESS1001 Introduction to Economics (1.0 cu) highly recommended that students taking this have A Level Maths
SESS1102 Introduction to International Relations (1.0 cu)

YEAR 2

Two compulsory units:
SESS2102 Politics and Society in Central and Eastern Europe (1.0 cu)
SESS2103 Russian Politics and Society(1.0 cu)

YEAR 3

Two compulsory units:
SEZZ4901 10,000 word Free-Standing Dissertation (1.0 cu)
SESS3101 Comparative Politics (1.0 cu)
Courses to the value of 2.0 course units selected from the following:
SESS3105 Security Intelligence in Central & Eastern Europe (0.5 cu) (Term 2)
SESS3103 European Security (1.0 cu)
P: Inroduction to International Relations


I do not like the fact that it is way too "Russia-intensive"!!

So if I reapply, then I will spend one year at UCL and 3 years at Cambridge?
Or 2 years at UCL and 3 years at Cambridge?


Best,

Thanks to everyone!

I am in a really difficult position here.
I cannot think of anywhere better than UCL in the political science department... (Other than LSE) But I like Cambridge's approach to a liberal arts education in Political Science.

I'm in a very similar position. I'll be attending UCL this year for psychology, but have considered and investigated applying for PPS - so like you I'll be studying 1/3 of the degree at UCL when I reapply to cam (not quite 1/3 of the degree as you choose which one you want to specialise in, but you get what I mean)

I contacted all the colleges I was interested in applying to and a few of them said they would allow me to apply if I had permission from UCL to drop out if I was given an offer. They all said once they had this letter I would be at no disadvantage to the other applicants.

As for how long you'd study at UCL, if you applied for 2012 entry then you may be given an unconditional (if you get an offer) and can drop out of UCL after 1 term. They may give you a conditional on a 2:1 in your first year etc. which means you'd have to stay for longer.

If your serious about this, contact the colleges you like the look of and consider a few things: the cost of studying for 4 years, with 3 being part of the £9k fees and the fact that a UCL degree is just as reputable as Cam and if reapplying and costs are worth the course structure.
Reply 16
Haha, thank you for such a detailed and swift reply!!
Add me on facebook! Send me a PM.
Are you in the Class of 2011?
I thought transfers never happened at Cambridge? Correct me if I'm wrong though, although I don't see how it'd work; you would have to go down the affiliated line anyway so that you could complete your degree since you can't simply transfer your points over.

Also, of course it's Russia intensive, it's East European Studies. I got offered to be entered for the East European side when they rejected me, but I kinda guessed the potential of it being East European "intensive" hence why I didn't apply.

If I were you I'd consider transferring to another university, go down the Cambridge line if you want but it seems unlikely, and then if you particularly want to do this specialised disseration apply to Cam and do it as a masters following a first from your university of choice.
Reply 18
Original post by Noodlzzz
I'm in a very similar position. I'll be attending UCL this year for psychology, but have considered and investigated applying for PPS - so like you I'll be studying 1/3 of the degree at UCL when I reapply to cam (not quite 1/3 of the degree as you choose which one you want to specialise in, but you get what I mean)

I contacted all the colleges I was interested in applying to and a few of them said they would allow me to apply if I had permission from UCL to drop out if I was given an offer. They all said once they had this letter I would be at no disadvantage to the other applicants.

As for how long you'd study at UCL, if you applied for 2012 entry then you may be given an unconditional (if you get an offer) and can drop out of UCL after 1 term. They may give you a conditional on a 2:1 in your first year etc. which means you'd have to stay for longer.

If your serious about this, contact the colleges you like the look of and consider a few things: the cost of studying for 4 years, with 3 being part of the £9k fees and the fact that a UCL degree is just as reputable as Cam and if reapplying and costs are worth the course structure.


I'm in the exact situation! I applied to Cambridge for medicine this year and didnt get in! :frown: I did get an offer Warwick for Chemistry, I do like chemistry but I REALLY REALLY wanted to go to cambridge to do medicine!! I was looking at the transfer too, I'm thinking of going to Warwick this september and apply to cambridge, I will drop out after the 1st term or the year if I get an offer.

I emailed the admission office about it, but they said I can't do it!! :angry: They might have misunderstood my email though, I think they thought i wanted to do a gap year and applying to cambridge whilst holding my warwick offer!

This is their email :'Thank you for your email. It is not possible to apply to this University whilst holding a place at another University. You would need to withdraw from your offer at Warwick and then make a fresh application for 2012 entry'

I'm in the same situation as you so i'm sure the admission office just misunderstood what i meant. :s-smilie: Plus you already emailed some colleges so im sure this route is alright. Do you mind me asking which colleges have said yes to this??

Thanks!! :biggrin:
Reply 19
Original post by ef8888
I'm in the exact situation! I applied to Cambridge for medicine this year and didnt get in! :frown: I did get an offer Warwick for Chemistry, I do like chemistry but I REALLY REALLY wanted to go to cambridge to do medicine!! I was looking at the transfer too, I'm thinking of going to Warwick this september and apply to cambridge, I will drop out after the 1st term or the year if I get an offer.

I emailed the admission office about it, but they said I can't do it!! :angry: They might have misunderstood my email though, I think they thought i wanted to do a gap year and applying to cambridge whilst holding my warwick offer!

This is their email :'Thank you for your email. It is not possible to apply to this University whilst holding a place at another University. You would need to withdraw from your offer at Warwick and then make a fresh application for 2012 entry'

I'm in the same situation as you so i'm sure the admission office just misunderstood what i meant. :s-smilie: Plus you already emailed some colleges so im sure this route is alright. Do you mind me asking which colleges have said yes to this??

Thanks!! :biggrin:


I'd reply back to that email explaining it properly.

Because the course I'll be applying for is only similar to the one I'll be studying at UCL rather than medicine to medicine, my situation is different. If the admissions say that you can reapply, hit me up with a PM and I'll share the college list with you :smile:

Seriously guys, neg rep for what?
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