Lets set Land Rovers record straight here
I recently started a thread about my vehicle choice to see how people react to a student driving a Land Rover.
I expected a lot of people to think "spoilt child", "unnecessary luxury" yada yada yada.
This proves that people think of Landies as posh, luxurious 4x4s when of course that certainly is not the case. They may have strayed off their routes in the last 15 years or so, but to set the record straight, Landies are classless, it doesn't matter if your rich or poor, a workman or an estate owner, nobody is going to know or care. A landie says nothing about those who are driving it, it doesn't dress itself up to be something it isn't, its just a simple, basic, no *******s versatile vehicle which will do, almost anything within reason.
It doesn't cool your face with aircon, it doesn't smother you in comfort, in fact it usually forces freezing water in your face, and coat you with the smell of oil, but it ticks over with a basic no frills engine which a monkey could fix!
They may have strayed off their routes recently, but at the end of the day, they are stereotypically a simple, basic 4x4,
A True British icon.
I expected a lot of people to think "spoilt child", "unnecessary luxury" yada yada yada.
This proves that people think of Landies as posh, luxurious 4x4s when of course that certainly is not the case. They may have strayed off their routes in the last 15 years or so, but to set the record straight, Landies are classless, it doesn't matter if your rich or poor, a workman or an estate owner, nobody is going to know or care. A landie says nothing about those who are driving it, it doesn't dress itself up to be something it isn't, its just a simple, basic, no *******s versatile vehicle which will do, almost anything within reason.
It doesn't cool your face with aircon, it doesn't smother you in comfort, in fact it usually forces freezing water in your face, and coat you with the smell of oil, but it ticks over with a basic no frills engine which a monkey could fix!
They may have strayed off their routes recently, but at the end of the day, they are stereotypically a simple, basic 4x4,
A True British icon.
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I think Landies definately have mass appeal - I don't own one myself but I have seen lots of Landie enthusiasts around, and there are just as many in old ones which you could probably buy for less than the price of a cheap family car as there are in brand spanking new ones covered in chrome.
Also, many 4x4s use less fuel than fairly conservative and cheap looking family cars (Vauxhall Omega/Vectra 3.0 V6, Mondo 24v for instance).
EDIT: Also - what Landie_Man spends in fuel I am sure he saves in insurance as Landies are notoriously cheap to insure
Also, many 4x4s use less fuel than fairly conservative and cheap looking family cars (Vauxhall Omega/Vectra 3.0 V6, Mondo 24v for instance).
EDIT: Also - what Landie_Man spends in fuel I am sure he saves in insurance as Landies are notoriously cheap to insure
(edited 13 years ago)
some people dont WANT a simple front wheel drive car, I want to drive a peice of my countries heritage, I want to go off road for fun, I want to be able to chuck tools in the back, get in and out with muddy boots on, never clean it, be able to fix it VERY cheaply and easily. They are so simple to fix and parts are DIRT CHEAP.
Heck, I like being able to change my body style at the drop of a hat. Its a van at the moment but i have a pickup truck roof that can go on if you unbolt the van hard top
Heck, I like being able to change my body style at the drop of a hat. Its a van at the moment but i have a pickup truck roof that can go on if you unbolt the van hard top
Original post by JayTeeKay
And also completely unnecessary for anybody that isn't a farmer? Implying you have money to burn or are just one of those idiots who HAS to drive a 4x4 despite living in a predominantly urban environment where a simple and small front wheel drive car would suffice?
Unneccesary to whom exactly?
When you go out and earn your own money, you can spend it on what the hell you like. The whole "neccesary" argument is only relevent to the person who's handing over the dosh and signing the V5c.
I find it unbelievable that you think you have the right to question how anyone spends their own money.
On a personal level, you couldn't pay me to drive a FWD clown car.
A friend of mine's got one that we hook a trailer onto and pile on the fells with it and hit the jumps with our bikes all day. My Step-Dad and I are going to build up a Land Rover this Summer and stretching on for a few years. We need a new Chassis, though, first. We've got the Engine from his Dad's old one, which is in top nick, so we're going to build one up RIGHT from scratch. 
Still, I find them amazing. Reliable, strong, powerful and if we hit the fells all day or our trails, we can put every bike on the trailer, pack us in the front, middle and rear seats and on the trailer itself too, fill it with food and ****, and have a day or weekend out up there.
Personally, I too, love them.
Still, I find them amazing. Reliable, strong, powerful and if we hit the fells all day or our trails, we can put every bike on the trailer, pack us in the front, middle and rear seats and on the trailer itself too, fill it with food and ****, and have a day or weekend out up there.
Personally, I too, love them.
Just a shame people keep bloody putting 2.5s in series! It makes me
So angry!
So angry!
Original post by Landie_Man
Just a shame people keep bloody putting 2.5s in series! It makes me
So angry!
So angry!
Why?
Once your name is on the V5 you can do what the **** you like with a car.
Like I say to people who offer their opinions on what I do to my cars both positive and negative "buy your own and make it how you want it".
Original post by JC.
Why?
Once your name is on the V5 you can do what the **** you like with a car.
Like I say to people who offer their opinions on what I do to my cars both positive and negative "buy your own and make it how you want it".
Once your name is on the V5 you can do what the **** you like with a car.
Like I say to people who offer their opinions on what I do to my cars both positive and negative "buy your own and make it how you want it".
Would you say that if I bought an MGB and put a Japanese 1.4 in it?
Problem is with modding classic cars is that there is a limited supply of many of them, so modding them beyond recognition just means there are less out there to enjoy in the long run.
(edited 13 years ago)
Landy's are the best 4x4 and more so in the past now adays though it moving towards on road rather than off road which has been due to a number of reasons especially green peace and idiots who want to stop cars going along country tracks for no reason but is sometimes one or two idiots driving recklessly
Massive Landy fan prefer the older models rather than the latest ones though
Massive Landy fan prefer the older models rather than the latest ones though
Original post by JayTeeKay
And also completely unnecessary for anybody that isn't a farmer? Implying you have money to burn or are just one of those idiots who HAS to drive a 4x4 despite living in a predominantly urban environment where a simple and small front wheel drive car would suffice?
Why do you say this?
Are you saying that they are expensive to buy? (1)
Expensive to run? (2)
Expensive to fuel? (3)
Expensive to insure? (4)
Here are the counter arguments to that.
(1) You can easily pick up an old Land Rover for less than £1000, you could pick one up for a few hundred quid if you were prepared to do some maintenence yourself to get it running.
(2) They are simple enough that anybody with a haynes manual and a good set of tools can do 99% of the maintenence themselves, therefore saving money on servicing and things like that.
(3) You think a diesel engine that very rarely goes over a couple of thousand RPM uses a huge amount of fuel?
(4) If you get insured through a specialist they can be very, very cheap to insure.
Who thinks any Land Rover other than the Range Rover (and possibly the Discovery) is for toffs? I certainly don't. That said, I've only ever seen middle class people drive them........
New ones are alright, they certainly don't give out the peasantry image as the older ones used to.
Defenders are decent workhorses, the only problem with them is they are rather uncomfortable especially if it is to be driven on a motorway at speeds. Thankfully we don't drive it around too much as it's mostly used off-public roads, where it does go on public roads it is usually with a trailer in tow.
The Disco 4, this is my kind of Land Rover, we use it to go everywhere these days. Not too bad in terms of ride comfort, fuel consumption.......who cares? Emissions? I plant enough trees to beautify my land. Sour grape peasants? They can smell my diesel fumes for all I care.
Think I'll get that Range Rover Evoque once my garage can get me one.
Defenders are decent workhorses, the only problem with them is they are rather uncomfortable especially if it is to be driven on a motorway at speeds. Thankfully we don't drive it around too much as it's mostly used off-public roads, where it does go on public roads it is usually with a trailer in tow.
The Disco 4, this is my kind of Land Rover, we use it to go everywhere these days. Not too bad in terms of ride comfort, fuel consumption.......who cares? Emissions? I plant enough trees to beautify my land. Sour grape peasants? They can smell my diesel fumes for all I care.
Think I'll get that Range Rover Evoque once my garage can get me one.
Original post by Landie_Man
I recently started a thread about my vehicle choice to see how people react to a student driving a Land Rover.
I expected a lot of people to think "spoilt child", "unnecessary luxury" yada yada yada.
This proves that people think of Landies as posh, luxurious 4x4s when of course that certainly is not the case. They may have strayed off their routes in the last 15 years or so, but to set the record straight, Landies are classless, it doesn't matter if your rich or poor, a workman or an estate owner, nobody is going to know or care. A landie says nothing about those who are driving it, it doesn't dress itself up to be something it isn't, its just a simple, basic, no *******s versatile vehicle which will do, almost anything within reason.
It doesn't cool your face with aircon, it doesn't smother you in comfort, in fact it usually forces freezing water in your face, and coat you with the smell of oil, but it ticks over with a basic no frills engine which a monkey could fix!
They may have strayed off their routes recently, but at the end of the day, they are stereotypically a simple, basic 4x4,
A True British icon.
I expected a lot of people to think "spoilt child", "unnecessary luxury" yada yada yada.
This proves that people think of Landies as posh, luxurious 4x4s when of course that certainly is not the case. They may have strayed off their routes in the last 15 years or so, but to set the record straight, Landies are classless, it doesn't matter if your rich or poor, a workman or an estate owner, nobody is going to know or care. A landie says nothing about those who are driving it, it doesn't dress itself up to be something it isn't, its just a simple, basic, no *******s versatile vehicle which will do, almost anything within reason.
It doesn't cool your face with aircon, it doesn't smother you in comfort, in fact it usually forces freezing water in your face, and coat you with the smell of oil, but it ticks over with a basic no frills engine which a monkey could fix!
They may have strayed off their routes recently, but at the end of the day, they are stereotypically a simple, basic 4x4,
A True British icon.
Why do you keep on making such pointless threads about Land Rovers? I'm sure there are plenty of land rover based forums where you would have more fun..
I am on land rover based forums, i just made the post
Original post by TheFatController
Would you say that if I bought an MGB and put a Japanese 1.4 in it?
Problem is with modding classic cars is that there is a limited supply of many of them, so modding them beyond recognition just means there are less out there to enjoy in the long run.
Problem is with modding classic cars is that there is a limited supply of many of them, so modding them beyond recognition just means there are less out there to enjoy in the long run.
TBH I'd be the first one to get the spanners out and come and help you.
The reality is if you have the money you can get what you want and do what you wish with it. I certainly wouldn't stop playing with cars because it might mean that some other bugger way off in the future couldn't have it and polish it.
Sod that. Life's too short!
Original post by LeeC
Why do you keep on making such pointless threads about Land Rovers? I'm sure there are plenty of land rover based forums where you would have more fun..
If you don't like what's on the telly you either turn it off or change the chanel.
If you don't like what's in a thread, jog on!
Original post by mackemforever
Why do you say this?
Are you saying that they are expensive to buy? (1)
Expensive to run? (2)
Expensive to fuel? (3)
Expensive to insure? (4)
Here are the counter arguments to that.
(1) You can easily pick up an old Land Rover for less than £1000, you could pick one up for a few hundred quid if you were prepared to do some maintenence yourself to get it running.
(2) They are simple enough that anybody with a haynes manual and a good set of tools can do 99% of the maintenence themselves, therefore saving money on servicing and things like that.
(3) You think a diesel engine that very rarely goes over a couple of thousand RPM uses a huge amount of fuel?
(4) If you get insured through a specialist they can be very, very cheap to insure.
Are you saying that they are expensive to buy? (1)
Expensive to run? (2)
Expensive to fuel? (3)
Expensive to insure? (4)
Here are the counter arguments to that.
(1) You can easily pick up an old Land Rover for less than £1000, you could pick one up for a few hundred quid if you were prepared to do some maintenence yourself to get it running.
(2) They are simple enough that anybody with a haynes manual and a good set of tools can do 99% of the maintenence themselves, therefore saving money on servicing and things like that.
(3) You think a diesel engine that very rarely goes over a couple of thousand RPM uses a huge amount of fuel?
(4) If you get insured through a specialist they can be very, very cheap to insure.
The diesel Land Rovers do like 20mpg don't they? Still half the mpg of a normal car.
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