Why do Americans believe that their soldiers 'Fight for their freedom'?

We have different perceptions of 'middle class'.

So why mention ruling family?

It is not a matter of perception. They are not middle class. The average wage in Iran is 1500 pounds and the economic situation is dire. So the concept that they are spending £10000 a year on University fees and that they are middle class is just rubbish. .

I somewhat see your point about state elites, but I don't like this implication that one has to be part of the ruling families to be an international student in the UK!

It is matter of perception.

Your ideas of what is middle class/elite are skewed.

As are your ideas of international tuition fees.

They are well off, but certainly not 'rich' or 'elite'

Maybe 'upper middle' if it makes you feel better

Ahh...I didn't mean that for all international students. To be a student from certain countries like Burma, you need to have the correct connection.

I guess you are an international student. I didn't mean to offend!

To be a student from certain countries like Burma, you need to have the correct connection.

All you are doing is what you wrote before without addressing any of my points.

The Average Wage in Iran is 1500. The Average tuition fee in this country is 10000 per year.

The conservative equivalent would be a person in this country paying 120,000 per year in tuition fees.

They are not middle class.

I find it ironic that you mock Americans* in such a manner, but are yourself using severely retarded logic to do so.

*Americans consist of 300m people, so how on earth you can sum up all their views as some single homogenous entity to represent the thinking of the country is beyond me (and indeed reason).

As for the issue of guns - the reason one is allowed to carry a gun in the US is for personal protection; period. Its enshrined within the constitution and one would think looking back at how the United States was formed, it would be pretty obvious why. You may not agree with it or you may have some major objections with the idea (whilst I agree with the right to arms, I do often myself question lax individual state mandates, such as those in Arizona for example), but that does not give license to simply propagate falsehoods through hyperbole.

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Average wage is irrelevant. It's what they can afford that counts.

You have no idea how much it costs to study in the UK as an international.

That's all I need to say.

Well off, but not "the ruling elite"


There's well off international students and the flaming rich Saudi prince types. My friends are not the latter.

BS.

Well, I do. It is quite easy to find.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5522070/British-students-pushed-out-of-universities-by-EU-applicants.html

" Non-EU overseas students are charged full tuition costs by universities, which average £10,000 a year for arts students, and they do not count against Government student quotas."


Clearly not because you are still talking nonsense.

I am not sure how it is BS. I am not saying anything particularly radical.

Elements, such as the last/closing line may have been intended as humour (though it wasn't funny, I can understand the intention to be of course)

but I very much doubt the lambasting/ridiculing and stern nature of the rest of the post was indeed intended for such humorous purposes

The amount of anti-americanism in this thread is astounding—and deeply worrying.

bs = incorrect statements of int tuition fees and claiming they're from the elite/ruling classes

Medicine costs at least double your figure at the university in question, that's why I say you are talking BS. Most international courses cost way more than £10k

You are the one talking nonsense

would all gang up and attack America and go into their homes and rape their children and burn their flags.
GAWD BLESS AMERIICA

The entire post was intended to be humorous. Its not my fault you didn't understand it, at least 3 other people did