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EU Bloc - EU Budget regulation Treaty

Preamble:
In an age of austerity, the MHoC believes that the EU can not justify any significant increase in the EU budget. We believe that the EU budget should be frozen for five years and during any financial year and subsequent three to five years depending on the time required for a recovery to occur. This treaty also enshrines increases in the EU budget to be limited to the rate of inflation or less.


Treaty

Article 1: The budget of the EU from the financial year 2013/ 4 to 2017/ 8

1.1. The budget of the EU shall not rise from the amount designated for the financial year 2012/ 3 between the financial years 2013/ 4 and 2017/ 8.

Article 2: The budget of the EU after the financial year 2017/ 8

2.1. After the financial year 2017/ 8, the budget of the EU may rise in accordance with the average rate of inflation across the EU as a maximum.

Article 3: Exemptions to the increase in budget

3.1. The EU budget may not be increased from the previous financial year if the EU is deemed to have been in recession.
3.2. A recession is defined as two quarters of negative growth in the EU with each quarter’s growth being calculated as an average of the growth rates of the EU member states.
3.3. In cases where the second quarter of negative growth occurs in the first quarter of a new financial year when the budget of the EU for the new financial year has been agreed, the budget of the next financial year shall not rise.
3.4. After a recession has been declared for the EU using the definition in article 3.2., the budget of the EU may not rise for the subsequent three financial years after the recession has been declared over.

Article 4: Commencement, Short Title and Extent

4.1 This Treaty may be cited as the EU budget regulation Treaty
4.2. This Treaty shall extend to the European Union; and
4.3. Shall come into force on the 1st April 2013 following ratification by the national Parliament of each member state.



Once the EU member states have debated this and signaled that they are happy with the Treaty as is, then a vote may occur. At this point, the treaty is up for negotiation and can be altered.
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Reply 1
The Czech Republic understands the need for short term austerity, but does not understand why temporary problems require a treaty which would effectively freeze the EU budget in real terms for an indefinite period of time. The Czech Republic especially disagrees with 2.1, and believes that an above inflation rise would be more beneficial for the countries of Europe. The Czech Republic also believes that 1.1 should be amended to allow a budget rise equal to inflation.
Reply 2
Portugal is against this and would like to remind Representatives from the Eastern part that a lot of money comes from EU through the Cohesion Policy etc.

The debate should be about growth etc.

OOC: the reason is due to existing commitments
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Reply 3
Original post by stanlas
The Czech Republic understands the need for short term austerity, but does not understand why temporary problems require a treaty which would effectively freeze the EU budget in real terms for an indefinite period of time. The Czech Republic especially disagrees with 2.1, and believes that an above inflation rise would be more beneficial for the countries of Europe. The Czech Republic also believes that 1.1 should be amended to allow a budget rise equal to inflation.



The MHoC believes that the EU can not preach austerity, but demand a rise. Member states can not afford it at this current time. The EU should not demand above inflation rises - ever.

Original post by Morgsie
Portugal is against this and would like to remind Representatives from the Eastern part that a lot of money comes from EU through the Cohesion Policy etc.

The debate should be about growth etc.

OOC: the reason is due to existing commitments


We of course believe that the debate should be about growth, but economic growth does not come from Government or EU spending. The EU should look to cut staff. Savings can and must be made.
Reply 4
Original post by toronto353
The MHoC believes that the EU can not preach austerity, but demand a rise. Member states can not afford it at this current time.

The Czech Republic believes that the EU budget at the very worst could be frozen in real terms during these times of trouble, and thus does not agree to an absolute freeze on the EU budget which would simply weaken our organisation.

Original post by toronto353

The EU should not demand above inflation rises - ever.

The Czech Republic is saddened by the HOC's view on the EU budget, but remains committed to an ever closer union.

Original post by toronto353

We of course believe that the debate should be about growth, but economic growth does not come from Government or EU spending. The EU should look to cut staff. Savings can and must be made.

The Czech Republic agrees that a rebalance of spending should be sought to spend more on infrastructure and reaserch (instead of bureaucracy), though we do not believe that this requires an overall cut in the EU budget in real terms.
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Reply 5
The Kingdom of Denmark feels that this is a quite reasonable proposal. Though we have confidence in our policy of deficit reduction, this reprieve would allow us to meet the EU standard of less than 3% of GDP faster.

We also wish to remind the Portuguese Republic that unless they make a concerted effort to similarly get their finances in line, we simply will not support any further financial assistance.
Reply 6
Original post by JPKC
The Kingdom of Denmark feels that this is a quite reasonable proposal. Though we have confidence in our policy of deficit reduction, this reprieve would allow us to meet the EU standard of less than 3% of GDP faster.

We also wish to remind the Portuguese Republic that unless they make a concerted effort to similarly get their finances in line, we simply will not support any further financial assistance.


OOC: I don't know what is happening in Portugal regarding the management of finances and getting it under control and the same thing can be said of Italy and Spain. As for Greece which is the main talking point at the moment who knows what will happen.
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Reply 7
Original post by Morgsie
OOC: I don't know what is happening in Portugal regarding the management of finances and getting it under control and the same thing can be said of Italy and Spain. As for Greece which is the main talking point at the moment who knows what will happen.


OOC: Portugal basically needs to get it's deficit down, it's quite similar to the Greece situation albeit less mature.
Reply 8
The Holy See is in favour of reduced spending, and encourages members of the EU to control the spending of the EU, as well as in their own countries.
Reply 9
Original post by stanlas
The Czech Republic believes that the EU budget at the very worst could be frozen in real terms during these times of trouble, and thus does not agree to an absolute freeze on the EU budget which would simply weaken our organisation.


The MHoC believes that the Czech Republic should consider the following issues. Member states are having to cut their budgets in order to make ends meet. It is not acceptable for the EU to be demanding budgetary discipline while not following its own mantra. The EU gives back surpluses to member states (I believe) so why can the EU simply reduce the budget so that a surplus does not occur.


The Czech Republic is saddened by the HOC's view on the EU budget, but remains committed to an ever closer union.


Our view is simply sensible economics.


The Czech Republic agrees that a rebalance of spending should be sought to spend more on infrastructure and reaserch (instead of bureaucracy), though we do not believe that this requires an overall cut in the EU budget in real terms.


A cut in the budget is required to show that the EU understands the concerns of its member states. We are not advocating a freeze in the budget forever, only for the next five years and during recessions and their recovery. During the good economic times, the EU budget may rise.



Original post by JPKC
The Kingdom of Denmark feels that this is a quite reasonable proposal. Though we have confidence in our policy of deficit reduction, this reprieve would allow us to meet the EU standard of less than 3% of GDP faster.

We also wish to remind the Portuguese Republic that unless they make a concerted effort to similarly get their finances in line, we simply will not support any further financial assistance.


The MHoC welcomes Denmark's stance on this issue.
Reply 10
Latvia supports the freeze on the EU Budget. Many EU funds are squandered on projects we do not need and should be engineered to give small and medium sized businesses incentives to expand their workforce and invest in new markets. Europe should be about growth and prudence over the next few years and Latvia agrees freezing the budget is a necessary step.
Reply 11
Original post by toronto353

The MHoC believes that the Czech Republic should consider the following issues. Member states are having to cut their budgets in order to make ends meet. It is not acceptable for the EU to be demanding budgetary discipline while not following its own mantra. The EU gives back surpluses to member states (I believe) so why can the EU simply reduce the budget so that a surplus does not occur.


The Czech Republic sends its sincere condolences to the British people, one of the main victims of austerity. The Czech Republic however does not believe that short term problems can justify attacks on the long term European project.


Original post by toronto353

Our view is simply sensible economics.


The Czech Republic strongly believes that the most sensible approach is always greater cooperation, which allows us to minimize costs and avoid overlaps. The Czech Republic is committed to supporting all joint infrastructure, research and defence programs.

Original post by toronto353

We are not advocating a freeze in the budget forever, only for the next five years and during recessions and their recovery. During the good economic times, the EU budget may rise.


The Czech Republic would like to remind the MHoC that what they are advocating here is a permanent EU budget freeze (in real terms), something which the Czech Republic will oppose.
Reply 12
Original post by frankayak
Latvia supports the freeze on the EU Budget. Many EU funds are squandered on projects we do not need and should be engineered to give small and medium sized businesses incentives to expand their workforce and invest in new markets. Europe should be about growth and prudence over the next few years and Latvia agrees freezing the budget is a necessary step.


The Czech Republic would like to remind Latvia that it has been allocated around a billion euros over the next budget, and benefits greatly from EU funding.
Reply 13
Original post by stanlas
The Czech Republic sends its sincere condolences to the British people, one of the main victims of austerity. The Czech Republic however does not believe that short term problems can justify attacks on the long term European project.


The MHoC believes that efficiency is necessary. Does the Czech Republic honestly believe that there is not any form of efficiency to find in any part of the EU budget? The Czech Republic has not answered the MHoC's main question. Does the Czech Republic believe that it is right that the EU should preach austerity, but not practise it?


The Czech Republic strongly believes that the most sensible approach is always greater cooperation, which allows us to minimize costs and avoid overlaps. The Czech Republic is committed to supporting all joint infrastructure, research and defence programs.


Cuts can be found by reducing staffing levels and becoming more efficient. Joint projects are not needed.


The Czech Republic would like to remind the MHoC that what they are advocating here is a permanent EU budget freeze (in real terms), something which the Czech Republic will oppose.


We are willing to examine the case for rises in the budget in the case of article 2 if the Czech Republic is willing to soften her position.
Reply 14
Original post by frankayak
Latvia supports the freeze on the EU Budget. Many EU funds are squandered on projects we do not need and should be engineered to give small and medium sized businesses incentives to expand their workforce and invest in new markets. Europe should be about growth and prudence over the next few years and Latvia agrees freezing the budget is a necessary step.


The MHoC praises the wise views of our friend and ally Latvia.
Reply 15
Original post by toronto353
The Czech Republic has not answered the MHoC's main question. Does the Czech Republic believe that it is right that the EU should preach austerity, but not practise it?


The Czech Republic agrees that cuts in bureacracy are needed at an EU level, and is prepared to accept a real terms freeze in the EU budget over the next years.


Original post by toronto353

Joint projects are not needed.


The Czech Republic believes that joint trans-European projects can be beneficial to all parties in terms of efficiency. Working together is always better than doing it seperately.


Original post by toronto353

We are willing to examine the case for rises in the budget in the case of article 2 if the Czech Republic is willing to soften her position.


If article 2 is amended to allow above inflation rises in the future, then the Czech Republic shall certainly consider supporting this proposal. However, the Czech Republic cannot guarantee support until the details of the amendment are revealed.
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Reply 16
Original post by stanlas
The Czech Republic agrees that cuts in bureacracy are needed at an EU level, and is prepared to accept a real terms freeze in the EU budget over the next years.




The Czech Republic believes that joint trans-European projects can be beneficial to all parties in terms of efficiency. Working together is always better than doing it seperately.




If article 2 is amended to allow above inflation rises in the future, then the Czech Republic shall certainly consider supporting this proposal. However, the Czech Republic cannot guarantee support until the details of the amendment are revealed.



If the MHoC were to alter to article 2 to peg any rise at 2% above inflation in article 2, would the Czech Republic allow article 1 and 3 to proceed unchanged?
Reply 17
Original post by toronto353
If the MHoC were to alter to article 2 to peg any rise at 2% above inflation in article 2, would the Czech Republic allow article 1 and 3 to proceed unchanged?


The Czech Republic would suggest:
1) Ammending article 1 to a budget freeze in real terms, not absolute
2) Change 3.4 to one year
3) Article 2 can be altered to 1.5% instead of the proposed 2% (as a 'compromise' for the change to article 1 and 3)

If those three changes are made, the Czech Republic will support this Treaty. In addition the Czech Republic will also be prepared to look into changing the focus of the EU budget priorities, once the 2012-17 budget totals have been agreed.
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Reply 18
Original post by stanlas
The Czech Republic would suggest:
1) Ammending article 1 to a budget freeze in real terms, not absolute
2) Change 3.4 to one year
3) Article 2 can be altered to 1.5% instead of the proposed 2% (as a 'compromise' for the change to article 1 and 3)

If those three changes are made, the Czech Republic will support this Treaty. In addition the Czech Republic will also be prepared to look into changing the focus of the EU budget priorities, once the 2012-17 budget totals have been agreed.


Those changes are not acceptable to the MHoC. We will back the 2% rise if an absolute freeze is adopted and 3.4 remains as is. We would be willing for this to rise to 2.5%, but we can not encourage and allow any rise in the EU budget for the next five financial years.
Reply 19
OOC: RL Multiannual Financial Framework 2013-2020 proposed.

I would like to remind people that Eastern Europe recieve EU funds and there is talk of reforming the funds.

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