The "female mind" unveiled

It's obviously a difficult thing to quantify and I'm not saying that men don't also suffer abuse, but statistics do suggest the majority of those who are worst abused are women:



You can also see this list of statistics from the ManKind website, which is a group who support male domestic victims of violence, which says that about a third of victims of domestic violence are men:

http://www.mankind.org.uk/pdfs/21KeyFacts_Jul2012.pdf

I think one of the mistaken assumptions people make about feminists is that they don't care about inequalities that men suffer, whereas issues of equality on behalf of men such as parental rights, paternity leave, etc. do matter to a lot of feminists. It's just that women suffer more inequality and that's the main focus.

Edit: Guys if you want me to reply to you then you have to actually reply to me in the body of your text and not in the quotes. I don't want to (and I will not) go to the effort of copying and pasting your responses.

Edit number 2: People seem to be taking this thread to mean that this is the supposed moral behaviour. Morality is subjective. What I'm writing is simply what I think are reasonable explanations for stereotypical occurrences. Whether you think they're moral or not is up to you. If you let natural occurrences dictate morality then you're an idiot.
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So I found out there are so many threads on TSR trying to figure out the "mysterious female mind", I thought I'd make a thread to try to explain it from my perspective. I found some stereotypes and gave explanations for them. If you can think of any other stereotype, post it in the thread and I'll attempt to address it with an explanation.


1) Women are likely to reject you if you seem interested, but they would be intrigued by you if you don't show any interest in them.

Explanation: A woman usually starts off being flattered by men's advances the first time it happened to her. Over time, a statistical pattern starts to form in which the number of perverted men who only wanted her for sex > genuine men. Consequently, the default position for interested men in her head is in the "pervert" category.

As a result, men who don't seem interested in her would automatically stand out and will appear to be better prospective partners because they obviously aren't sex crazed or weird if they're not actively going after her or even paying her attention.


2) Girls don't know what they want.

Explanation: girls know that they want to avoid giving instructions. They will beat around the bush and give you clues so that you can figure it out yourself, because THAT is what girls want. They want you to be telepathic. Literally. The reason: they want to feel like their partner knows them well enough to figure out what they want without having to tell them what it is specifically.


3) Girls don't like sex.

Explanation: girls do like sex. The problem is, sex usually ends with the man getting pleasure but the woman not getting as much pleasure as she could potentially get (because men can orgasm in less than 3 minutes and women take about 20 on average).

Result: women figure out that, if they don't enjoy sex most of the time, they may as well use sex as a means to get what they want (hence withholding sex as punishment or giving sex as a reward).


4) Girls go for *******s

Explanations: girls don't go for *******s. The guys who consider themselves "nice" and every other potential guy an "*******" are actually the *******s themselves, and the "*******s" who are reading this will understand what I mean.

If you think you're a nice guy and you aren't sure why you keep getting rejected, then take the time to read this article and see if the description fits you: http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml

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Post as many stereotypes as you want in the thread. I'll answer them if I think they're correct and ignore them if I think they're fabricated and/or stupid.

No they really don't care they boycotted a male awareness conference in Canada, don't try telling me feminists care about men, they keep pointing out that only >50% of C.E.Os are male they keep forgetting that 1 its not easy for men either and 2 men are more likely to still be working after 40, the domestic abuse statistic can I just ask one question why are DV rates so high in lesbian relationships? 3 its still 1/3 don't dismiss it society it harsher to male victims than female victims on top of that I bet it would be a lot higher if men didn't feel like society was so hostile towards them. 4 there was a video on YouTube of a guy getting his penis cut off by his wife, the audience was laughing, someone said what if that was a women reviveing it from a man the host said "its different" tell me that feminists are changing society for better how by telling people rape and DV is bad? Like as if we didn't know that already.

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Ok, that was horrific to try and read.

1. Who is "they"? Feminists? As a whole? Every single one in the world? Or a specific group?
2. Just because it's "not easy for men either" doesn't negate the fact that the percentage of major companies that are run by women is low o.0
3. I have no idea why the rates amongst lesbians are higher.
4. I didn't dismiss it. Read my post properly.
5. It's not about telling people that rape and domestic violence are bad, it's about improving protection and conviction rates, taking care of victims, changing attitudes (e.g. those like Todd Aiken's on "legitimate rape"), getting rid of victim blaming and rape culture, etc.

Take a look at statistics for rape and domestic abuse. Yes, men are also raped and abused but the vast majority are women and the conviction rates, particularly for rape, are shockingly low.

1. Who is "they"? Feminists? As a whole? Every single one in the world? Or a specific group?

2. Just because it's "not easy for men either" doesn't negate the fact that the percentage of major companies that are run by women is low o.0

5. It's not about telling people that rape and domestic violence are bad, it's about improving protection and conviction rates, taking care of victims, changing attitudes (e.g. those like Todd Aiken's on "legitimate rape"), getting rid of victim blaming and rape culture, etc.

Men don't get raped as often by men because most men find women sexually attractive. (yes, I know there's power involved also in cases). Legally, men can't get raped by women as it's classed as sexual assault. Conviction rates are low because women often lie about being raped because of shame or attention or whatever reason they feel like, putting a bad name on the ones who do get raped. Even then it's hard to provide evidence someone was actually raped.

Basically, what you said has nothing to do with sexism.

She don't have a clue to be honest

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You know what they say about women and logic...

She kept skewing statistics, missed my point completely about DV rates in lesbian relationships, and that when a man has sexual intercourse against his will, its sexual assault. I don't believe she went Oxford to be honest.
Edit: she's apparently a liberal feminist that's hilarious

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You don't need common sense to get into university. You just gotta be good at reading a text book and memorising everything... And to maybe impress the interviewers, have a real posh accent.

Imagine the abuse we'd get for calling ourselves "liberal mysgonist" or whatever it is?

2. Just because it's "not easy for men either" doesn't negate the fact that the percentage of major companies that are run by women is low o.0

I have nothing at all against lesbians, in any way shape or form,(one of my friends at college is a bisexual), but come on, girls have it much easier in society

If what you said were true, we would see women an equal proportion at the elite levels of politics and business, if not a majority. We do not. In fact, looking at the top levels of the most elite professions, chancery and commercial work at the bar and some consultancy practice areas of medicine, we see something like an 80/20 split that favours men.

In the most recent intake of bar pupils, the split in the most prestigious practice area (chancery) was something like 75/25. And yet a majority of law graduates are female..?

What would you rather, that the opposite sex opened doors to you and allowed you not to have to fight in the military, or that you got an advantage in pursuing the positions in society that involve the most authority, the most access to wealth and power and influence (politics, corporate finance etc)?

All I see is a load of junk, I come from a council flat I couldn't care about getting to the top as getting to the middle is hard enough, how can't you see

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If what you said were true, we would see women an equal proportion at the elite levels of politics and business, if not a majority. We do not. In fact, looking at the top levels of the most elite professions, chancery and commercial work at the bar and some consultancy practice areas of medicine, we see something like an 80/20 split that favours men.

In the most recent intake of bar pupils, the split in the most prestigious practice area (chancery) was something like 75/25. And yet a majority of law graduates are female..?

What would you rather, that the opposite sex opened doors to you and allowed you not to have to fight in the military, or that you got an advantage in pursuing the positions in society that involve the most authority, the most access to wealth and power and influence (politics, corporate finance etc)?

My issue with this is that many feminists seem to confuse patriarchy with all men. More importantly, the majority of men these days aren't sexist in any meaningful sense.

The fact of low numbers of women at the top levels of politics, business and the professions has myriad reasons. One is that it is bloody hard to shift society in large ways like the way gender roles are divided and categorised.

From the dawn of time until living memory, women have been in a subordinate role to men. The changes we've seen in terms of women's participation and engagement in society and the workcace, the last 50 years have been profound and probably beyond prediction for someone living 50 years ago.

Just because it's not perfect doesn't mean that we're not moving in the right direction, and it doesn't mean most men are sexist or to blame for the status quo vis a vis women in politics, business etc.

Feminists have it wrong! They label us all as rapists or rape supporters and generalize males as a whole, do you think that it will be easy for me to reach the top too? No I come from a council estate, getting into university will be hard enough

How would you like it if because of the fact that most divorces end in financial gain for women, a male group said all women are gold diggers?

As for getting to the top, you have to be a smart cookie whatever sex you are and if you don't make the cut you don't get there, that's not the way society is now, you can't be born into it either you can get there or you can't.

Feminists are nothing more than extremists socialist party, have you ever studied history?

If so would you like the idea of communist environment where there is no social mobility, meaning that no matter how great you are, the best you can do is be at the bottom if you are born into it?

Girls seem to throw logic out the window in most situations and go with their emotions, regardless of how stupid the decision is.

What is your explanation for this, Dragonfly?