Is Sharia Law vs British Law - Which is more moral?

the definition of evil is "to be profoundly immoral", but how can there be evil without an objective moral truth, and how can there be an objective moral truth without god.... but no, this is not my ontological argument.

Morality isn't defined by belief in a god.

without God, there is no such thing as objective morality/ a moral standard.

without God, there is no such thing as objective morality/ a moral standard.

Noun

Principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.
Behavior as it is affected by the observation of these principles.

Definition of morality:


No mention of gods, just knowing about right and wrong.

Im my opinion morality is subjective. You are arguing on the basis of your opinion that morality is objective.

Definition of morality:


No mention of gods, just knowing about right and wrong.

without god, there are no objective morals, just your opinion, so if you decided to murder a baby, because in your opinion, its okay to, you would.

The dictionary definition of morals does not mention religion/God or anything like that.



From the Merriam-Webster - The Free Dictionary.

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Whether or not one acts upon their own morality is subject to a range of other factors, what i am saying is that even if you are arguing that there is an inherent objective morality it can be easily swayed by environment etc. For example if I grew up in Hitler's Germany my actions towards say those of colored complexions would likely to be radically different ( my sense of morality would also be different of course).

when did i say it did, i said that there is NO OBJECTIVE morality without God.

I'm muslim myself and I don't believe law should be based off a single religion. God gave us the freedom to choose. Making a law only off a single religion would take away that freedom. It would be unfair. If you want to be a christian, jew, atheist buddhist, sikh, practice toaism etc., then be. Whether you did right or wrong, it's all on you. The law that should be put is one that protects the individual person. Nothing more. So murder, rape, theft etc. They should stand But things like drugs and such, personally, as long as it wouldn't affect others it should be legalised. What you do to yourself should be up to. However you should have NO rights at all to hurt or force another person to change in any way.

A bit on Shariah Law:

2.5% Tax for muslims on yearly savings

0.5% Tax for non-muslims on yearly savings

Free power, water and shelter (i.e house)

No intrest so you pay what you owe nothing more on loans

Harsh punishments which act as deterrent so safety is assured

Only apllied to a person in public, privately (i.e. in a persons home) the person can do what ever the hell they want if they concent to it such as forncation, adultry, drugs, laws of punishment only apply if the person owns up to it or if seen commiting the crime in public places.

A bit on Mordern Capatilist law:

Freedom, whether good or bad doesn't matter as long as your "free"

Income tax from around 20%-50% of your hard earned money gone

Punishments that even criminals see as a good thing now (i.e. Boast about going to prison)

Whole economy is intrest based so someone gets a loan, he would be stuck with the intrest for years, causes money problems for people.

Laws change according to what people want so law isn't seen as something to protect the people from what is wrong but to satisfy what the people want even if it is wrong and causes problems.


I would go for Shariah

Does there have to be objective morality?

Who says that I, as a non-religious person, cannot be objective?

in my opinion the concept on God is imperfect and so your morality is SUBJECTIVE.

without objective morality, murdering a baby is neither wrong, nor right.

how can you have objective morality without God?

that desnt make sense... what we believe does not have an impact on objective truth, so your or anyone else's opinion does not have an impact on objective truth, as truth by definition is objective and exists independent of us.

Based on that the government can't afford to go for Shariah. Even with the high taxing and power prices, we're in a lot of debt. How are the people who work to give everybody electricity and gas etc, meant to make a living, or will we just give money that we don't have to them, as seeing as we're paying 0.5-2.5% tax, we can't afford to have them payed by the government.
As for people being allowed to do what ever they want in public; well that just speaks for itsel

The reason we are in such debt is because of the current system it isn't able to run itself and we can clearly see that because of the debt. There is much more detail into how shariah can solve those problems, like debt and paying those who give the electricity and why the tax would work. I will do later though as I am busy at the moment and will take time, check the thread tomoro evening or so.

As for people being able to do anything they want in public, are you talking about shariah there? because thats not what i said, you can do whatever you want privately, but certain laws such as punishment for fornication and doing drugs only apply if done publicly or if the person owns up to doing them.