Bashar al-assad and the Syrian conflict

That video is easily a fake. Did you notice that they were all men? Also the same things going on with Egypt - you extremists are framing the soldiers and are inciting a "civil war", and of course America will support the Muslim Brotherhood as they are best friends.

The purpose of this thread is to express your opinion and back it up with evidence...if you wish...which you seem to have failed epic-ally...instead all you have managed to do is come on here and shout pro-Assad slogans just like a mad hooligan. So, yes I do agree you have added nothing to this discussion.

Whether assad wins or loses he will be in history books for ever as a mass killer of his OWN people... which is something to be proud off for future pro-asses...

Not only that, he will be held accountable for his action not by the court of law, or the International Court for Garbage, or Human Rights, instead he will stand in front of his own people and they will do what they wish with him...He killed their mothers, fathers, sons THEY (not you or I) will get what they want.



Neither you or anyone who still supports the criminal will get in their way to get justice. They have fought for it, they have given their souls for it thus they SHALL get what they want...today, tomorrow, after few months...it doesn't matter!





In the end they will get their freedom and their dignity whether you like it or not. That's life. No pain no gain

Yeah yeah it's so ruddy fake, you got me!!!Please don't tell anyone!
What about this one? Are the soldiers being framed too?

I knew you'd answer me something like that and I feel sorry for you. I've got one thing to ask though: Who is the oppressed and who is the opressor in the ongoing conflict? If you tell me the Syrian soldiers of Assad are the oppressed, then I am gonna commit a suicide!

A lot of people are saying that it's only brainwashed people who are rebelling. Is there any real way to measure this - What you consider to be a "brainwashed" person might just be someone who really supports the current government and doesn't want a change.



I see - So coercion, informants, and threats could also be the main driving force behind pro-rebel demonstrations? I.e if someone refuses to take part they get labelled a traitor, so they go out and pretend to support a cause whether that's pro-assad or pro-rebel, in order to keep their family safe?

I don't dispute the 100,000 death figure, but this also includes civilians who were attacked by rebels, syrian service personnel who were killed by rebel suicide bombings, people who died in crossfire and whose killers can't really be determined with any degree of certainty.

Let me categorically state that I have no problem with the Syrian military and the FSA attacking each other - I believe in peace so I don't like it when armies go to war but I understand why it's sometimes necessary and that they should stick to attacking only military targets. Recently I've felt that the rebels seem to be going after other targets, such as suicide bombing civilians. If you ask anyone whether suicide bombing civilians in pursuit of a "cause" can ever be justified, most if not all will say no. I believe that this is why the FSA are being labelled terrorists - Because they are doing things that terrorists do - Suicide bombing, attacking service personnel, waging war against the state. The Damascus suicide bombing a while ago reminded me of the IRA murder of Aery Neave. He was a UK government minister a few decades ago and the IRA (Irish "rebels"/"terrorists"/"freedom fighters" depending on who you ask) murdered him by planting a bomb in his car. The IRA were wrong to do this. Whether or not their political aims were legitimate, they did not have the right to murder a civilian in cold blood to make their point. People who do that scare me. If they are prepared to murder a civilian in cold blood just to make a point, can they ever really be fit to govern a population?

From what I have seen so far, the Syrian military is only attacking the rebels, but trying to leave civilians out of it. This is precisely what NATO say they do when they bomb urban areas in other countries - Attack military targets and keeping civilian casualties to as low a level as possible, if not entirely 0. While I may not agree with such military operations, I think the broad intention of an army to minimize civilian casualties is a commendable one, and I certainly won't fault the Syrian military for doing this.

A lot of people are saying that it's only brainwashed people who are rebelling. Is there any real way to measure this - What you consider to be a "brainwashed" person might just be someone who really supports the current government and doesn't want a change.



I see - So coercion, informants, and threats could also be the main driving force behind pro-rebel demonstrations? I.e if someone refuses to take part they get labelled a traitor, so they go out and pretend to support a cause whether that's pro-assad or pro-rebel, in order to keep their family safe?

I don't dispute the 100,000 death figure, but this also includes civilians who were attacked by rebels, syrian service personnel who were killed by rebel suicide bombings, people who died in crossfire and whose killers can't really be determined with any degree of certainty.

Let me categorically state that I have no problem with the Syrian military and the FSA attacking each other - I believe in peace so I don't like it when armies go to war but I understand why it's sometimes necessary and that they should stick to attacking only military targets. Recently I've felt that the rebels seem to be going after other targets, such as suicide bombing civilians. If you ask anyone whether suicide bombing civilians in pursuit of a "cause" can ever be justified, most if not all will say no. I believe that this is why the FSA are being labelled terrorists - Because they are doing things that terrorists do - Suicide bombing, attacking service personnel, waging war against the state. The Damascus suicide bombing a while ago reminded me of the IRA murder of Aery Neave. He was a UK government minister a few decades ago and the IRA (Irish "rebels"/"terrorists"/"freedom fighters" depending on who you ask) murdered him by planting a bomb in his car. The IRA were wrong to do this. Whether or not their political aims were legitimate, they did not have the right to murder a civilian in cold blood to make their point. People who do that scare me. If they are prepared to murder a civilian in cold blood just to make a point, can they ever really be fit to govern a population?

From what I have seen so far, the Syrian military is only attacking the rebels, but trying to leave civilians out of it. This is precisely what NATO say they do when they bomb urban areas in other countries - Attack military targets and keeping civilian casualties to as low a level as possible, if not entirely 0. While I may not agree with such military operations, I think the broad intention of an army to minimize civilian casualties is a commendable one, and I certainly won't fault the Syrian military for doing this.

Yeah yeah it's so ruddy fake, you got me!!!Please don't tell anyone!
What about this one? Are the soldiers being framed too?

I knew you'd answer me something like that and I feel sorry for you. I've got one thing to ask though: Who is the oppressed and who is the opressor in the ongoing conflict? If you tell me the Syrian soldiers of Assad are the oppressed, then I am gonna commit a suicide!

Do please pay careful attention to the following vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwCeuaIzPmw

No one pretends to support a cause, they're feeling it and it's part of their lives till Assad is ousted.

Do please pay careful attention to the following vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwCeuaIzPmw

I watched it, it's one of those political videos where people say how much better their government would be. What is the relevance of this video?

Syrian Guy, you expressed some concern about some of the people in pro-assad protests might only be there out of coercion. It's perhaps a good thing that we consider this coercion thing a bit further. What proof can you offer me that the people at the anti-assad protests aren't just there out of coercion?

I am 100% with Bashar Al-Assad, the true leader of the Syrian Arab Republic and not those FSA scums.
Syria was so beautiful when I used to visit it, and look at it now.
Bashar Al-Assad is loved by his people and had done very well with Syria´s limited natural resources, making a beautiful country. If the people did not love him he wouldn´t still be the leader today.
The so-called "FSA" is a terrorist organisation predominantly composed of radical islamists from foreign arab countries, funded by the USA and Israel and their "puppet-states" Qatar, Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

You guys should check out liveleak once in a while to see what the FSA scums are doing to the syrian people.

May God help the Syrian people and long live its leader Bashar Al-Assad!

You have just nailed it......indeed long live mighty Assad!

The problem is he wont

he killed more than 100,000 and he is going to get his fair share of the cake!!

The arrogance you display here is utter disrespect for those lost in this war and you should be ashamed of yourself if you consider yourself a human being otherwise continue as you are praising a murderer because you would like to be one day-thats the only explanation.


Thankfully there is not many of your kind around. Most people have finally realised the truth in syria and that Bashar talks garbage to cover his back


Dont worry he will see the results of his actions not by the UN and the "Syrian Army of hypocrisy" but by the syrian people. They will get what they want, why? because they deserve the freedom, they sacrificed so many lives...guess why? so bashar can be a lesson for every tyrant to put a foot on this earth, they will teach him the meaning of freedom and that in the end the righteous always wins.


He can kill all he likes but the syrians will keep coming at him until they get their well deserved freedom .....wonder why its taken 2 years to "end" the syrians? Because they are braver than he thought tehy are stronger than he thought. They surprised him thats for sure.They united, and stood infront of him like no other person can...despite the lack of military support they are still standing in front of the biggest mass killer of all time. What does that tell you?

Courage. Bravery. Great spirit.

vs.


Cowardness and child rape?




hmm take your pick




Thats the way it is whether you like it or not. NOTHING, can change the facts.

Bashar al Assad is better for Syria than FSA ALQUIDA EXTREMISTS, AL-NUSRA/FSA AND OTHER ALQUIDA LINKED MALITIAS WANT TO MASSACRE, THE ALAWI, DRUZE, CHRISTIAN MINORITIES; they kill civilians who support the president, they killed Christian leaders (beheading, shouting 'god is great' at the same time! lol they don't know the meaning of 'god is great') they recruit children, praise the animal binladen, and are destroying Syria; also one rebel ate the heart of a dead soldier...their animals! Bashar al Assad as the legitimate leader is doing what any other leader would do when their country is invaded by al-Qaida thugs seeking to destroy and kill (half of these scumbag rebels are foreigners believe it or not#)

Does anyone know of any good twitter or facebook accounts which I can follow/like to get updates on Syria (from both viewpoints if possible)? Thanks

Coming from someone who supports Gaddifia....not very credible I must say

quiet fool, what do you westerners know whats happening their, idiot! just let the bbc propaganda machine brainwash you, long live bashar!