Is Scottish independence a 'good or bad' thing?

When those bigots feed off your defence? Stocks and stones may break my bones etc.

the best way to deal with them is to sit back and watch them destroyed next September.

Our country? Do I get a say in this?

I don't particularly feel that the SNP have guided us particularly well. They've told more lies than Blair. That's some track record.

Scottish people should be able to make decisions about their own country without being overruled and imposed on by West Minster, end of discussion.


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You think she is lying when she says the IFS has said that Scotland would find it considerably more difficult to fulfil its state pensions requirements than it would if it was to remain part of the UK, then?

This article says much about some businesses' thoughts on independence and the bullying attitude of the nationalists towards those who are off-message:

It also confirms that food prices in Scotland are effectively subsidised by the supermarkets' policy of having the same prices throughout the UK, even though costs are higher north of the border - another of the hidden subsidies that I've mentioned before and which people don't believe exist.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25300398

Another scary story. No surprises there. What about the fact that food prices have been increasing year on year in the union, but wages have stagnated? What about the 11% pay rise that Westminster MP's were going to get, and yet there are ordinary citizens who have been fighting their employers for several years to even get a 1% rise in pay?

I think if it got independence it would be one of those middling struggling countries. It would't collapse but I really doubt it would do well at all and would need to either raise taxes or gut services since its public spending is so high. The entire Independence project is based on oil and gas and some noises towards renewable energy, would't surprise me if an independent Scotland ended up suffering from Dutch disease. Although I suppose they do have the whisky industry going for them

She is a Tory. That says it all. She is biased towards the union. What about the debt payments and interest on top of that, included in the fiscal calculations that Scotland has to pay thanks to Westminster running up so much debt? What about if Scotland did not have any debt to pay? Would Scotland still not be able to afford to go it alone? What about the other similar sized countries (in population) to Scotland which have become successful independent countries?
And don't say Ireland and Iceland are bankrupt - it is actually very much easier to sort problems they have had when you are a nation of 5 million people than a nation of 50million people. Iceland have sorted their financial problems much quicker than the UK, and do not intend to impose an austerity package on the people of their society who are least able to afford it. You are also forgetting that the power of independence enables Scotland to grow its economy - something that will never happen as part of the "union".

It all comes back to currency again doesn't it?
Iceland were able to default as they weren't in a currency union.

The arguments for a currency union have been put forward several times, which we are probably now tired of hearing.
I think that, eventually, Scotland will adopt its own currency, when it is in the interests of Scotland to do so. We will get to a point where a currency union is no longer sustainable.

. You are also forgetting that the power of independence enables Scotland to grow its economy - something that will never happen as part of the "union".

But ye Salmond is racist bigot who is using Scotland's working class's hate for English people for his campaign..

Well well...trust finds BBC Scotland guilty of breaking guidelines over EU indy story

I wonder if any of the msm outlets will cover this story. Why am I paying for misrepresented news?

The arguments for a currency union have been put forward several times, which we are probably now tired of hearing.
I think that, eventually, Scotland will adopt its own currency, when it is in the interests of Scotland to do so. We will get to a point where a currency union is no longer sustainable.

Another scary story. No surprises there. What about the fact that food prices have been increasing year on year in the union




, but wages have stagnated? What about the 11% pay rise that Westminster MP's were going to get, and yet there are ordinary citizens who have been fighting their employers for several years to even get a 1% rise in pay?

Well well...trust finds BBC Scotland guilty of breaking guidelines over EU indy story

I wonder if any of the msm outlets will cover this story. Why am I paying for misrepresented news?

Proof? It's insulting and arrogant to suggest that the Scottish can't think for themselves.

She is a Tory. That says it all. She is biased towards the union. What about the debt payments and interest on top of that, included in the fiscal calculations that Scotland has to pay thanks to Westminster running up so much debt? What about if Scotland did not have any debt to pay? Would Scotland still not be able to afford to go it alone? What about the other similar sized countries (in population) to Scotland which have become successful independent countries?
And don't say Ireland and Iceland are bankrupt - it is actually very much easier to sort problems they have had when you are a nation of 5 million people than a nation of 50million people. Iceland have sorted their financial problems much quicker than the UK, and do not intend to impose an austerity package on the people of their society who are least able to afford it. You are also forgetting that the power of independence enables Scotland to grow its economy - something that will never happen as part of the "union".

I don't follow her logic. The article you linked (and I shall rely on it entirely) says the then Irish European Minister Lucinda Creighton (in a broadcast interview) told interviewer Raymond Buchanan



Another interview showed Scottish Secretary Michael Moore saying



These seem to me to be identical views (and represent the truth). Correct me if you think they differ materially.

Yet Creighton then complains, saying that BBC coverage



when in fact, according to the report linked, she did say that.

She was clearly trying to address two different audiences.