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So with the upcoming vote on independence in Scotland there is a lot of conflicting opinions on the subject. If someone chooses to answer this question plus only use facts instead of what you think or hope. Thank you.


The question is will UK visas be valid in an independent Scotland. I'm asking for Non-EU members, EU members, and EEA members. I can't seem to get in contact with the UKI I think it is now and the international student advisor doesn't seem to understand that n independent Scotland is no longer apart of the UK to give me any type of reasonable answer. Any thoughts
If you were in Scotland on a UK visa at the time of independence your visa would be valid until it runs out, as Scotland was in the UK at the time you got it.

After it ran out, or if you arrived after independence, you would need to apply for a Scottish visa under Scotland's immigration rules whatever they are at the time.
Original post by Tcovington
So with the upcoming vote on independence in Scotland there is a lot of conflicting opinions on the subject. If someone chooses to answer this question plus only use facts instead of what you think or hope. Thank you.


The question is will UK visas be valid in an independent Scotland. I'm asking for Non-EU members, EU members, and EEA members. I can't seem to get in contact with the UKI I think it is now and the international student advisor doesn't seem to understand that n independent Scotland is no longer apart of the UK to give me any type of reasonable answer. Any thoughts


The answer is 'nobody knows.'
Surely they would be considered as valid, even just to avoid the mess that would result from invalidating all of them at once. Anyways, nobody really knows what would happen once they expire or for new visas (or for EU, EEA members).
Reply 9124
The fact is no one knows because these things will only be worked out if Scotland actually does vote for independence.

I wouldn't worry about it and just continue as normal. There's so many things that would be affected by Scottish independence, you can't put everything on hold in case it goes ahead.
New poll from YouGov/Channel4 out today:
YES - 37%
NO - 51%
D/K - 12%

http://www.channel4.com/news/scotland-independence-85-per-cent-no-vote-poll-exclusive
Original post by flugelr
New poll from YouGov/Channel4 out today:
YES - 37%
NO - 51%
D/K - 12%

http://www.channel4.com/news/scotland-independence-85-per-cent-no-vote-poll-exclusive


Curious as to why this is giving such a decisive result compared to other polls.


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27247870

The truth over iScotland's likely credit rating is out. I wonder how long it will be before the SNP accuses Moody's of bullying.
Original post by Good bloke
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27247870

The truth over iScotland's likely credit rating is out. I wonder how long it will be before the SNP accuses Moody's of bullying.


There's also the SNP MEP saying that Salmond should admit he's got it wrong on the EU.

http://www.libdemvoice.org/trouble-in-paradisesnp-mep-says-leadership-should-admit-they-made-a-mistake-over-independent-scotlands-eu-membership-39589.html
Article in the P&J today about a spat between Labour and the SNP. The SNP want to raid the North East Scotland Pension Fund so they can use the money for other projects. Kinda ironic that they always whinge about not having an oil fund, but where there is a fund they want to divert it for other uses:
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1609939_10152158454984217_2089981457277529372_n.jpg
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Original post by Midlander
Curious as to why this is giving such a decisive result compared to other polls.


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Possibly because YouGov has consistently had NO well ahead.

YouGov has had NO on 52 or 53 in each of their last 7 polls.
Original post by Boab
Possibly because YouGov has consistently had NO well ahead.

YouGov has had NO on 52 or 53 in each of their last 7 polls.


Are they seeing something the other polls aren't or is their sampling somewhat flawed?
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Original post by Midlander
Are they seeing something the other polls aren't or is their sampling somewhat flawed?


No idea. Best to average them all together imho.

A quick browse suggests women are oversampled.
Original post by Boab
No idea. Best to average them all together imho.

A quick browse suggests women are oversampled.


Would like to know how you actually get polled for these things-I never have been and I don't know anybody who has.
Original post by Boab
Possibly because YouGov has consistently had NO well ahead.

YouGov has had NO on 52 or 53 in each of their last 7 polls.


Even the SNP polls have the no campaign well ahead.
Original post by Midlander
Would like to know how you actually get polled for these things-I never have been and I don't know anybody who has.


It's normally done randomly using the electoral register or something similar and a phone call from a polling agency.

panelbase do it on line and you register to vote. But that has its own problems as demonstrated here.

http://m.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/panelbase-bans-new-members-from-independence-polls-1-3080830
Original post by MatureStudent36
It's normally done randomly using the electoral register or something similar and a phone call from a polling agency.

panelbase do it on line and you register to vote. But that has its own problems as demonstrated here.

http://m.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/panelbase-bans-new-members-from-independence-polls-1-3080830


I see today that Alex Salmond has been quoted in an interview referring to Scotland as a 'nation of drunks'. Had David Cameron said this he would be crucified but I expect Salmond to get off like he usually does.
Original post by Midlander
I see today that Alex Salmond has been quoted in an interview referring to Scotland as a 'nation of drunks'. Had David Cameron said this he would be crucified but I expect Salmond to get off like he usually does.


Haven't you heard, it's all westminsters fault.

No ownership. No responsibility.
Original post by MatureStudent36
Yet ironically wit further devolution already happening, the SNP have removed many powers from councils and centralised power at Holyrood.

Funny that. Didn't we have a devolved government set up a few years ago.

The opposite of what you've said is actually the case.


And councils haven't devolved power down power either.

This was a key theame at the 'bigindydebate' last night in Glasgow. But still circles down to whether you agree with the current administrations or not, at least they have the ability to decentralise power on those matters. On tax and a third of public spending (aka welfare) Scotland currently doesn't have the power to either manage centrally, nor localise power.
Original post by Good bloke
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27247870

The truth over iScotland's likely credit rating is out. I wonder how long it will be before the SNP accuses Moody's of bullying.


tbh I think this will work in the Yes campaigns favour.

They rated Scotland as an A.

To the man on the street thats pretty darn good. Credit Rated A.

Hell the whole UK is only Aa1.

Most people won't even know what the current UK rating is, let alone there are sub ratings.

Also it blows a bit of a hole in the BT arguement that Scotland would have 'no' credit rating. Its ahead of Russia and a miniture smidge behind China and Belgium.

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