The SNP wants to give Scotland to the EU dictatorship

They claim to be nationalist but the EU does not believe in nations. Its objectives are to get rid of all European nations and merge them into one superstate and to bring in as many immigrants as possible, so as to reduce the indigenous European population to a minority. The SNP is fully sympathetic to these aims and should not be taken seriously as a so called 'nationalist' party.

I don't think you understand what a dictatorship is...

Centralized power.

Not that simple - if it were then Westminster would be a dictatorship too. Absolute power wielded by a small collective or single executive, typically without a semblance of democratic accountability. The EU is a democratic organisation, you may prefer a different type of democracy, but it's a democracy nonetheless

The EU has a democratic deficit. The nation states of Europe used to make their own laws in a democratic fashion. Now their laws are dictated to them by the EU.

I don't think you understand what a dictatorship is...

The EU Parliament cannot propose laws

the EU uses its financial clout to have elected politicians removed

which are made democratically. As I said, with your position, parliament is a dictatorship, forcing laws on regional/local government.

Not the form of democracy I'd like =/= dictatorship. By that position I could claim to want direct democracy and so uk parliament is a dictatorship. It's obviously not, and neither is the EU.

which are made democratically. As I said, with your position, parliament is a dictatorship, forcing laws on regional/local government.

Democracy has some basic tenants of an elected chamber having certain powers.

Not really because the UK parliament is the main law making body in the UK and is elected.

Berlusconi and greece.

I think the point he's trying to make is with the EU you have laws enforced on you if the majority agree with the law the commission put forward there is no going back unless you leave - there is no democratic choice against an EU law by the citizens of a nation state. The Irish found this much out...

The EU Parliament cannot propose laws and the EU uses its financial clout to have elected politicians removed.

its basically the enabling act

A nation is a place which can decide its own laws Otherwise it is no longer a nation.

So, like a European Parliament, filled with directly elected personnel from member states, which then appoints the commission and votes on proposed legislations? Sounds fine, but you're a bit late, they've already got it.



The European Parliament is elected and ultimately approves laws... It's a far from perfect system, but it's not by any sensible measure a dictatorship, and by a measure to consider it a dictatorship, you could argue any traditional democracy is actually a dictatorship.




This being the berlusconi who was guilty of embezzlement and tax fraud? So, did the evil eu fabricate the evidence against him?

As for Greece, no. The Greek government were right about austerity, but you don't get to vote to ignore terms negotiated and keep the cake offered.



Different to the uk, where parliament votes on legislation and enacts it in the event of a majority how?

You really miss the point, you do. The point I was trying to make was with a Parliamentary democracy, you can reform legislation over many years, if a government piss you off you can vote them out and the new government can make changes to legislation. When something goes into EU law, there is nothing the nation state can do to stop that. If there is a law in the EU which all of our MEP'S vote against, if they get a majority, the law still applies. The irish voted against a treaty 53% to 47%, instead of accepting the result, the EU made them vote again. With the EU it's either a matter of voting again or ignoring the result. Brexit has rattled there cage though.

A nation is a place which can decide its own laws Otherwise it is no longer a nation.

It approves laws. Hence democratic.



Nations gave some of their sovereignty on their own free will. It would be a dictatorship if that were imposed on them, but it was not. Every member is free to leave.

You can't enjoy the benefits of being in a massive market and complain about rules and whatnot.

It's basic logic. Don't feed off of daily mail. Never does good.

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Can you give an example of a nation which decides it's own laws?

Switzerland with its referendums perhaps, but most nations put law making into the hands of a small number of people.

As for the SNP, they want the ability to make such decisions and laws, so according to your definition they are nationalists.