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    (Original post by jam277)
    Yeah it's a poor season but every manager has had a poor season. Also the squad was significantly weakened in the loss of Lewandowski and loads of injuries, Biaczykowski being out for long, Gundogan being out for large parts of last season and needing to get up to speed, their best player in Reus being out for fairly long periods this season.

    Granted this is no excuse for being in the relegation zone after Xmas but they're playing much better than they were earlier on this season and were undone by defensive errors vs Juve who are 1st in Serie A and matched them away from home. Also I highly doubt they'll be begging for europa considering how they're playing. They'll get it comfortably, just that top 4 may be too much an ask for them, although I've seen Arsenal make similarly ridiculous gaps(see 11/12 and 12/13) so it can be done. They get 4th then it's just a normal season for them.
    Interesting how other managers can have a bad season but Wenger can't, I would say our injury crisis was just as bad as Dortmunds, granted we didn't lose our best players but we used to and Wenger would still get us top 4 which is much more than can be said for Dortmund right now.

    We're just as bad as United fans tbh right now, have some stupid superiority complex belief that we deserve success.

    Surprised Wenger has put up which such **** for so long, 2 or 3 years ago he probably could have got any managerial job he wanted, but consistently gets the blame for his own players ****ing up.

    Also, nice to see scrappy doo is being efficient and getting injuries before he even plays, another week out most likely followed by a 2 week lay off then a couple of poor performances and the crowd will be back on his back again just like what's going to happen to Ozil and Giroud if they don't perform tomorrow, a lot of our fans are more plastic than Katie Price's tatas tbh
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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    Interesting how other managers can have a bad season but Wenger can't, I would say our injury crisis was just as bad as Dortmunds, granted we didn't lose our best players but we used to and Wenger would still get us top 4 which is much more than can be said for Dortmund right now.

    We're just as bad as United fans tbh right now, have some stupid superiority complex belief that we deserve success.

    Surprised Wenger has put up which such **** for so long, 2 or 3 years ago he probably could have got any managerial job he wanted, but consistently gets the blame for his own players ****ing up.

    Also, nice to see scrappy doo is being efficient and getting injuries before he even plays, another week out most likely followed by a 2 week lay off then a couple of poor performances and the crowd will be back on his back again just like what's going to happen to Ozil and Giroud if they don't perform tomorrow, a lot of our fans are more plastic than Katie Price's tatas tbh


    Wenger doesn't have bad seasons. He's had the exact same seasons for many years now.
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Wenger doesn't have bad seasons. He's had the exact same seasons for many years now.
    Or you could say every season since 05 (bar maybe 05/06 for the CL final and 13/14 for the FA Cup win) have been bad seasons, we're just used to them and see them as average.
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Wenger doesn't have bad seasons. He's had the exact same seasons for many years now.
    Meh, we're making progress it's just a mental issue and constant injuries. I'd rather 4th than dropping out of CL for years at a time then a title push like Liverpool that died swiftly. Not saying 4th is the am, titles are, but having rode the injury storm we are still in a strong position to push on from.

    Based on United today I would say we should go in favourites for the FA cup QF game, and seeing as Soton are starting to lose it and Spurs being spurs the only team I can see beating us to 3rd is Liverpool, and even that is a big if considering their inconsistencies.

    Big performance is needed tomorrow to get us back on track no doubt, but Everton having played in Europe too should help.

    inb4 Giroud double and Walcott making Baines his ***** for 90 minutes
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    (Original post by Pete_91)
    Or you could say every season since 05 (bar maybe 05/06 for the CL final and 13/14 for the FA Cup win) have been bad seasons, we're just used to them and see them as average.

    Well that's the point I was trying to make lol
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    (Original post by leinad2012)

    inb4 Lukaku double and Mirallas making Gibbs his ***** for 90 minutes
    One can dream eh?
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    (Original post by shawn_o1)
    One can dream eh?
    Nah, Lukaku is only good in Europe where he can make Young Boys his ***** #LukakuIsKony2012 #LukakuIsAPedo?

    Would expect Gibbs to get dropped for Monreal, ever noticed how every English LB is a fraud right now, like Baines, Gibbo, Shaw, they're all so highly rated but all of them have done little this year to back it up.

    Actually, would change it to Welbeck making Baines his ***** for 90 mins, that's how little I rate Baines right now.
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    Just looking at the form tables and only Liverpool have scored more points than us in the last 10 games (24 compared to us on 22). Monaco has been the exception to our form since the turn of the year, although Liverpool are definitely a team to be afraid of from the looks of it, keep getting better and better
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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    Just looking at the form tables and only Liverpool have scored more points than us in the last 10 games (24 compared to us on 22). Monaco has been the exception to our form since the turn of the year, although Liverpool are definitely a team to be afraid of from the looks of it, keep getting better and better
    all you can do is win your matches and build a lead
    you're 3 points clear, and since we have city this weekend it's likely that will jump to 5/6.

    i don't think you'll have a problem for top 4.
    i think it'll be united scraping wins and trying to limp over the line to 4th before we catch them.
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    southampton dropping more points..

    United still looking poor...

    Good good.

    win this weekend, and if liverpool loose to city, can be 5 clear from southampton, and 6 from liverpool..

    Starting to look good - but still need to make a bigger cushon before we inevitably drop 6 against united + chelsea later this season
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    all you can do is win your matches and build a lead
    you're 3 points clear, and since we have city this weekend it's likely that will jump to 5/6.

    i don't think you'll have a problem for top 4.
    i think it'll be united scraping wins and trying to limp over the line to 4th before we catch them.
    Hmm, but if you beat City and we win we'll only be 4 behind them :eek:

    We should comfortably get top 4, Southampton and starting to lag, Tottenham are the inevitable inconsistencies, but you're playing well, could easily see you leapfrogging us if we aren't careful. Then you have United clawing points back after playing ****, I think if we beat them in a few weeks it'll knock the stuffing out of them, but like others have said, we're guaranteed to drop 5 points Chelsea and United so we need to build up a lead.

    Anyone know when the return fixture is for Monaco?
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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    Hmm, but if you beat City and we win we'll only be 4 behind them :eek:

    We should comfortably get top 4, Southampton and starting to lag, Tottenham are the inevitable inconsistencies, but you're playing well, could easily see you leapfrogging us if we aren't careful. Then you have United clawing points back after playing ****, I think if we beat them in a few weeks it'll knock the stuffing out of them, but like others have said, we're guaranteed to drop 5 points Chelsea and United so we need to build up a lead.
    we have three important players back (sakho, henderson, coutinho) for the city game but we're also likely to rest sturridge.
    if we win i think everybody bar chelsea will be worried about us, although personally i can't see it :/

    yeah, soton are dropping and spurs tend to lose points randomly.
    united are STILL getting good points without playing well and that's the main problem for both of our clubs.

    they'll be seriously tested in their painfully hard run of fixtures and personally i think they'll get destroyed.
    chelsea would tear them apart and we would rip their defence to shreds.
    unfortunately you have the curse against them so i'm not too hopeful of you making them drop points -_-
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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    Hmm, but if you beat City and we win we'll only be 4 behind them :eek:

    We should comfortably get top 4, Southampton and starting to lag, Tottenham are the inevitable inconsistencies, but you're playing well, could easily see you leapfrogging us if we aren't careful. Then you have United clawing points back after playing ****, I think if we beat them in a few weeks it'll knock the stuffing out of them, but like others have said, we're guaranteed to drop 5 points Chelsea and United so we need to build up a lead.

    Anyone know when the return fixture is for Monaco?
    17 March. Good luck getting 3-0
    (I think they will tbf, when Arsenal are on a bad patch they can turn up on some foreign land and nick a surprise)
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    Lmao Tottenham are suddenly irrelevant again now people realize the extent of their reliance on Kane scoring tap-ins. Southampton are falling and Utd are still fluking wins with no actual confidence. Arsenal will drag themselves over the line like a dog trying to get rid of a dingleberry on the carpet. Unless Liverpool pick it up, Utd will get fourth, but Liverpool can still make up the gap.
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    (Original post by Pete_91)
    Or you could say every season since 05 (bar maybe 05/06 for the CL final and 13/14 for the FA Cup win) have been bad seasons, we're just used to them and see them as average.
    You may as well flip a coin in August because Arsenal seasons only ever go 1 of 2 ways

    - Sell key player(s), start the season poorly, have loads of injuries, go on a good run to end the season and scrape the last CL place
    - Start the season well, everyone thinks Arsenal have turned the corner, have loads of injuries, completely fall apart in February/March and scrape the last CL place, with the occasional run in one of the cups.

    This season looks like it'll be the former. Last season was the latter.
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    Only this time Arsenal didn't sell key players (Vermaelen wasn't "key" at all)
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    (Original post by sr90)
    You may as well flip a coin in August because Arsenal seasons only ever go 1 of 2 ways

    - Sell key player(s), start the season poorly, have loads of injuries, go on a good run to end the season and scrape the last CL place
    - Start the season well, everyone thinks Arsenal have turned the corner, have loads of injuries, completely fall apart in February/March and scrape the last CL place, with the occasional run in one of the cups.

    This season looks like it'll be the former. Last season was the latter.
    Except we didn't sell key players, we didn't replace backup players. Bit of a difference...
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    (Original post by shawn_o1)
    Only this time Arsenal didn't sell key players (Vermaelen wasn't "key" at all)
    (Original post by Pete_91)
    Except we didn't sell key players, we didn't replace backup players. Bit of a difference...
    You lost Sagna to Man City's bench and you've struggled in that position this season.
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    ^ Would have provided some vital experience, considering Per is ******* up big time and you have a new young right back,
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    (Original post by sr90)
    You lost Sagna to Man City's bench and you've struggled in that position this season.
    Only because the replacement got 2 3 month injuries, there's no guaranteeing the same wouldn't have happened to him had he stayed.

    That's really not the same thing as you were arguing and you know it. If Sanchez got injured and wasn't playing much you could say "well you never got the LW you needed". Fact is we did replace Sagna, it was Vermaelen we didn't replace.
 
 
 
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