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    (Original post by You'llneverknow)
    No, I disagree. I only go up to London weekly, but I find there's a lot of creativity and wacky-ness to be found there. A have a few friends living there and they only realise how cool the city is when we go out together and do things, because they don't think to do it on their own. Yes the NHS is a mess and tax is becoming criminal, but everyone everywhere says that. They always have. What they haven't always said is that you got on the tube and saw a group of people dressed up for a Harry Potter convention or went round tonnes of free museums in one day. You have to remember that most places in England don't have that. I recently went to Berlin and in comparison to London it was a series of concrete blocks with all history but no culture. Frankly, if you're not happy with London, you might struggle to find somewhere that you are (rest assured I am very biased).
    You're looking at it through a tourists eyes, I agree that the museums are amazing and you can absolutely have an amazing day there, but imagine living in a tiny flat, taking an elevator which stinks of piss down to the floor, getting on the tube which is pure filth (and not in a good way), once you take away the hype and fun of your day, it's an absolutely soul destroying place.


    You shouldn't compare London with Berlin, I mean, the RAF's and the Russians did have quite a go at that city, but somewhere in Bavaria like Munich or Bamberg would show London for the unnatural hell it really is.
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    I grew up in a coastal, Mediterranean Croatian town - the whole green, sunny parks/beaches suburbia. After moving to the UK, and especially after seeing London, Liverpool, Manchester and Leeds, it does feel depressing at times. It's not really the colder weather - I expected that - but everything seems gray, monolithic and gloomy. This even applies to people, rarely do I see anyone smiling out on the street, everyone seems in a hurry, people generally seem unfriendly. From time to time, I do find a slightly more engaging street or park, but it's generally glum.
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    (Original post by frostyy)
    >40°C in mah city this summer, lovin it.
    cold winters and hot summers is the right way innit
    YAS! <3 I'd always spend the whole day outside in winter, and omg sliding down the hills lol. Feeling so nostalgic rn. :moon:
    Soo looking forward to visiting pl this summer, forgot what real hotness feels like uno
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    London's great. All the urban solitude might get you down but there are so many opportunities and everything you need is really close.
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    (Original post by glassriver)
    London's great. All the urban solitude might get you down but there are so many opportunities and everything you need is really close.
    Everything you need comes with a price my friend. Also, are you even bothered to walk out in these dirty dry winds to go get whatever you need?
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    (Original post by Free Kurdistan)
    Very much.

    I never thought I would say it, but Birmingham is better.


    I don't get the, always something to do argument, the museums are really good, but most of it is either gimmicky tourist stuff or weird hipster ****.
    Yeah I visited Birmingham, seems kinda nicer than London.
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    (Original post by 0xygen)
    Everything you need comes with a price my friend. Also, are you even bothered to walk out in these dirty dry winds to go get whatever you need?
    Well, yes to be honest. You can't get anything for free, and I don't think that a bit of dirty dry wind would stop me from getting something.
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    (Original post by 0xygen)
    Yeah I visited Birmingham, seems kinda nicer than London.
    It's really nice, saw lovely detached houses rather than either slums or highrise flats, went to a pub, people are friendly and generally happy. I know bad parts of Birmingham exist I'm not delusional, but it had a real feelgood factor.
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    (Original post by 0xygen)
    I've lived in London for the past 22 years (born here) but i'm starting to seeLondon to have one of the most depressing atmospheres.

    Reasons:

    - The weather is always terrible. Its too dull. You have to wake up to cloudy skies and a hidden sun, then sleep to terrible winds and covered stars.

    - Its too historic, you don't feel as if its really moving forward with anything. The houses are all the same red brick ugly style (unless you have real £). Its full of museums and dull rivers.

    - Tax depresses you. You have a nice salary of £50k? Get ready to give 14k away. You can then try to save your pennies for the next couple of years till you manage to save enough to take a mortgage on a small house outside London.

    - NHS is downgrading year after year.

    The list goes on.

    Any thoughts?
    Ha, are you sure you're not just a bit SAD towards the end of winter? It affects a lot of people by this time of year.

    I don't think London is any more depressing than many big cities and considerably less so than some. It has a lot going for it and you can have fun, despite the architecture, which is good in places. :teehee:

    Your tax complaint could apply to lots of countries, has nothing whatever to do with London and actually taxes are relatively low in the UK by EU standards.
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    (Original post by Free Kurdistan)
    You're looking at it through a tourists eyes, I agree that the museums are amazing and you can absolutely have an amazing day there, but imagine living in a tiny flat, taking an elevator which stinks of piss down to the floor, getting on the tube which is pure filth (and not in a good way), once you take away the hype and fun of your day, it's an absolutely soul destroying place.


    You shouldn't compare London with Berlin, I mean, the RAF's and the Russians did have quite a go at that city, but somewhere in Bavaria like Munich or Bamberg would show London for the unnatural hell it really is.
    That's very harsh on London - it has a lot of nice old streets and quaint survivals of earlier times. The architecture certainly wasn't helped along by the Germans but that's another story. Generally I would say a lot of central London, areas like Covent Garden, Bloomsbury, Soho, Chelsea, etc, have style and some class and are not at all depressing. They have a lot more going for them in terms of liveliness and variety than the monochrome of some German cities, which are hideously reserved, cold and unwelcoming to the eccentric.
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    (Original post by ivy.98)
    At least there's always something to do. I cant imagine living outside London in the UK, must be so boring tbh
    I totally agree...I see other towns as provincial farmeresque people...

    (Original post by Mentally)
    Yh. Especially the tube, everyone looks like they hate their lives. Though i havent really lived outside of london enough to compare
    The tube is alright on a Saturday or sunday, but on a monday morning, I doubt many people are excited or happy.

    (Original post by Andy98)
    The UK is depressing

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    agreed...the sooner I get out of this country the better.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    That's very harsh on London - it has a lot of nice old streets and quaint survivals of earlier times. The architecture certainly wasn't helped along by the Germans but that's another story. Generally I would say a lot of central London, areas like Covent Garden, Bloomsbury, Soho, Chelsea, etc, have style and some class and are not at all depressing. They have a lot more going for them in terms of liveliness and variety than the monochrome of some German cities, which are hideously reserved, cold and unwelcoming to the eccentric.
    I found it strange you should mention eccentricity, this is one of the impressions I get of London, but I interpret it totally differently, it's not organic eccentricity, it's a very contrived attempt at pushing that sense of way out-ness as nothing more than a way to market itself. This is unique in a way where it was clearly created in certain way for its artistic value and where its uniqueness is a happy accident.







    London on the other hand, is the Lady Gaga of world cities.
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    Nah, I love it, even with its flaws.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    That's very harsh on London - it has a lot of nice old streets and quaint survivals of earlier times. The architecture certainly wasn't helped along by the Germans but that's another story. Generally I would say a lot of central London, areas like Covent Garden, Bloomsbury, Soho, Chelsea, etc, have style and some class and are not at all depressing. They have a lot more going for them in terms of liveliness and variety than the monochrome of some German cities, which are hideously reserved, cold and unwelcoming to the eccentric.
    Not that I'm any kind of expert on culture but I can't say I have notice that and I have been in lots of German cities.
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    (Original post by 0xygen)
    Everything you need comes with a price my friend. Also, are you even bothered to walk out in these dirty dry winds to go get whatever you need?
    If your most important issue with getting around London is the "dirty dry wind", then I envy you lol
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    I've lived in London all my life and I think it's a great city
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    (Original post by ravioliyears)
    I agree, the NHS is slightly messed up.I know from experience. And I'm only 16.
    C'mon, at least we have an NHS.
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    One of the worst cities I've lived in across the globe.
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    I remember the London of the mid-1990s, when I would have been about 7 or 8. It was a very different place even back then, in almost any flavour I care to imagine; take the hustle and bustle, for one: you could walk down Shaftesbury Avenue on a Sunday afternoon and sometimes not have to move out of the way for anybody. It was still a busy place, but not to quite the same extreme that it always seems to be nowadays. Even when we would travel up to Oxford Street during the Christmas period, it was a notably less frustrating place, in terms of the sheer crowds. I think that would be my biggest concern with London at the moment, the crowdedness. I love the multicultural element, it's nice being able to hear Mandarin-Chinese spoken year-round, yet I feel the Englishness of London is still very much alive. And about the weather, what did you really expect? We live on an island in the North Atlantic, a place which drew the meteorological short straw - though it sure does make the good weather that bit sweeter when it does arrive, doesn't it?
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    (Original post by 0xygen)
    I've lived in London for the past 22 years (born here) but i'm starting to seeLondon to have one of the most depressing atmospheres.

    Reasons:

    - The weather is always terrible. Its too dull. You have to wake up to cloudy skies and a hidden sun, then sleep to terrible winds and covered stars.
    Good God. You should try living in Scotland. When I moved down to London I was amazed that it was possible for a place to have so much sunlight and so little rain.

    - Its too historic, you don't feel as if its really moving forward with anything. The houses are all the same red brick ugly style (unless you have real £). Its full of museums and dull rivers.
    Well that's just insanity. London is at the forefront of European science, technology and culture, it has the EU's tallest skyscraper, and tbh it's difficult to see a single building more than 50 years old on its skyline, with the exception of landmarks like St Paul's and Big Ben. Its houses in my experience are mostly 1960s and 70s flats, until you get out into the suburbs. London is one of Europe's fastest growing cities and is 'moving forward' to a massive extent compared to other parts of the UK. Just look at how many construction cranes there are everywhere, infrastructure projects, business startups, new immigrants... London is a totally different city than it was even 20 years ago.

    - Tax depresses you. You have a nice salary of £50k? Get ready to give 14k away. You can then try to save your pennies for the next couple of years till you manage to save enough to take a mortgage on a small house outside London.
    Tax is hardly a problem unique to London.

    - NHS is downgrading year after year.
    Again, healthcare all over the UK is substandard. At least London has some of the best specialist hospitals in the world.

    All the points on your list are just reasons why London is the best part of the UK to live in, aside from the rent costs.
 
 
 
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