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    Cesc has got the Arsenal curse don't worry. He'll become a nobody in two years and be sold off to Newcastle


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    (Original post by Webster2002)
    U don't turn down world class players therefore letting them go to a rival. U need a squad of top players to win titles. We needed more top quality midfielders. Cesc would've been one.


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    You've not made a point here


    That's like saying "let's buy Mata because he's world class even though we have Ozil and Cazorla"

    How exactly would Cesc help us win the title? Can you tell us?


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    I guess the austerity attitude has developed at Arsenal even when they have the money.
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    Not to worry guys, now you can add Cesc in alongside that witty RvP chant.


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    (Original post by Stalin)
    The fact of the matter is simple: we don't actually need Cesc.
    You don't need a player who is better than all of your players? How does that work?!
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    You've not made a point here


    That's like saying "let's buy Mata because he's world class even though we have Ozil and Cazorla"

    How exactly would Cesc help us win the title? Can you tell us?


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    Cesc was offered to us and is a world class player. U need more than 3 or 4 good centre mids to make a good squad capable of winning titles. When Wilshere, Ramsey, Özil get injured again, we'll be down to Arteta Flamini Rosicky midfields when we could've had Cesc.


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    (Original post by Stalin)
    Jesus. Having read a couple of the posts in this page alone it's clear that a few of you are on the blob and you've blown the transfer completely out of proportion.

    The fact of the matter is simple: we don't actually need Cesc. Answer me this, Wenger doubters/haters, how do we accommodate Ramsey and Wilshere in a team with Cesc? I'm certainly not having him instead of Ramsey, especially after the season he's just had, and it would be a massive slap in the face to Wilshere if he was told to warm Cesc's place on the bench for the next few seasons.

    Wilshere hasn't had a great season, but must I remind you how dire Ramsey was the season before last? Where a lot of you, including myself, were calling for his head at times because he brought nothing to the XI apart from passing the ball back to the defence. And look at him now.....

    Ramsey's set the standard, and Wilshere, OX, Gibbs, Szcz, CJ, et cetera must follow, and there's no doubt in my mind that they will under Wenger.

    DM
    Ramsey Wilshere
    Walcott ST Ozil

    All we need is a top striker, a top DM, an experienced RB, a young, promising CB if Verm leaves, and a GK to keep Szcz occupied.

    With these new signings, we'll have a decent team and have decent depth: Cazorla, OX, Rosicky, Giroud, Verm, et cetera.
    As @FourFourTom said on twitter;

    Neither Arsenal or Chelsea needed Fabregas. We turned him down cause our midfield's already enough for 4th. They signed him to be champions.
    Speaks volumes. Arsene only cares about 4th.
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    (Original post by Stalin)
    Jesus. Having read a couple of the posts in this page alone it's clear that a few of you are on the blob and you've blown the transfer completely out of proportion.

    The fact of the matter is simple: we don't actually need Cesc. Answer me this, Wenger doubters/haters, how do we accommodate Ramsey and Wilshere in a team with Cesc? I'm certainly not having him instead of Ramsey, especially after the season he's just had, and it would be a massive slap in the face to Wilshere if he was told to warm Cesc's place on the bench for the next few seasons.

    Wilshere hasn't had a great season, but must I remind you how dire Ramsey was the season before last? Where a lot of you, including myself, were calling for his head at times because he brought nothing to the XI apart from passing the ball back to the defence. And look at him now.....

    Ramsey's set the standard, and Wilshere, OX, Gibbs, Szcz, CJ, et cetera must follow, and there's no doubt in my mind that they will under Wenger.

    DM
    Ramsey Wilshere
    Walcott ST Ozil

    All we need is a top striker, a top DM, an experienced RB, a young, promising CB if Verm leaves, and a GK to keep Szcz occupied.

    With these new signings, we'll have a decent team and have decent depth: Cazorla, OX, Rosicky, Giroud, Verm, et cetera.
    Attitudes like this is why we go nowhere. Fabregas is so so much better than wilshere. What other top clubs accommodate players like this? Did bayern say oh we're fine in midfield ( with a better midfield than ours) nope they signed Martinez, thiago, gotze. Did barca need fabregas when they had xavi, iniesta, mascherano, thiago..nope. Same applies to city, chelsea, psg etc
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    You've not made a point here


    That's like saying "let's buy Mata because he's world class even though we have Ozil and Cazorla"

    How exactly would Cesc help us win the title? Can you tell us?


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    Because he'd be the best midfielder in the team and because we were lining up with arteta flamini rosicky trio at times last season a midfield fit for a midtable side
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    And because he's a winner.
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    Just because our "period of austerity" is over, doesn't mean we now have unlimited money. We still desperately need a striker and a DM. We strongly need a LW. We definitely need a new RB and a backup keeper too. If Arsene turned down Cesc so that he could use the money to really strengthen those positions with quality players, then he's done the right thing. If this wasn't Cesc and was just a random AM, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. It's pure emotion and no logic.

    And we can all moan about the past and about Wenger's perceived ineptitude in the transfer window, but right now, it's June 12th. And the World Cup is about to start. It's way too early to complain of inactivity. If we do get to September without signing top players in the above positions, then yes, something needs to change. But right now we can't assume that that's gonna be the case.
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    Wenger Out trending.

    Standard Arsenal fan behaviour.
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    (Original post by e aí rapaz)
    If this wasn't Cesc and was just a random AM, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. It's pure emotion and no logic.
    If a random world class central midfielder with a lot of premier league experience was offered to us for around £30m and we turned them down. The response would be similar, although maybe not as much disappointment as with Cesc.


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    Lets not kid ourselves. We are not going to sign a prolific striker or a left winger. Jenkinson will be a starter with a young black french signing as backup. Arteta will also be a starter next season.

    In Arsene we trust. :adore:
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    (Original post by Mr Smurf)
    Lets not kid ourselves. We are not going to sign a prolific striker or a left winger. Jenkinson will be a starter with a young black french signing as backup. Arteta will also be a starter next season.

    In Arsene we trust. :adore:
    Could get us 4th place. That's all that matters :|


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    (Original post by Stalin)
    Jesus. Having read a couple of the posts in this page alone it's clear that a few of you are on the blob and you've blown the transfer completely out of proportion.

    The fact of the matter is simple: we don't actually need Cesc. Answer me this, Wenger doubters/haters, how do we accommodate Ramsey and Wilshere in a team with Cesc? I'm certainly not having him instead of Ramsey, especially after the season he's just had, and it would be a massive slap in the face to Wilshere if he was told to warm Cesc's place on the bench for the next few seasons.

    Wilshere hasn't had a great season, but must I remind you how dire Ramsey was the season before last? Where a lot of you, including myself, were calling for his head at times because he brought nothing to the XI apart from passing the ball back to the defence. And look at him now.....

    Ramsey's set the standard, and Wilshere, OX, Gibbs, Szcz, CJ, et cetera must follow, and there's no doubt in my mind that they will under Wenger.

    DM
    Ramsey Wilshere
    Walcott ST Ozil

    All we need is a top striker, a top DM, an experienced RB, a young, promising CB if Verm leaves, and a GK to keep Szcz occupied.

    With these new signings, we'll have a decent team and have decent depth: Cazorla, OX, Rosicky, Giroud, Verm, et cetera.
    Agreed. I want to see Jack do a Ramsey - imagine them working in tandem at their best. Also, let's not forget just how much Arsene splashed out on Ozil - he will prove to be worth the money.

    Need a DM, a striker, and a RB at least. Not to mention a new back-up goalie and a CB. if Verm leaves. Cesc would have been a waste of money - we're not one of the oil clubs.
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    (Original post by Webster2002)
    If a random world class central midfielder with a lot of premier league experience was offered to us for around £30m and we turned them down. The response would be similar, although maybe not as much disappointment as with Cesc.


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    Right. People wouldn't be anywhere near as emotional. That's kinda my point.
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    (Original post by e aí rapaz)
    Right. People wouldn't be anywhere near as emotional. That's kinda my point.
    But there still would be a lot of disappointment.


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    much upset in this thread.

    idk why people moan about jenko starting next season, sagna was nothing special, confident jenko could do a better job.

    funny how a CM was on no1s list of players we wanted for before these cesc rumours.

    am calm till the end of the window
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    Inb4 Vela and Remy for 15mil RB, CB and GK all freebies and the board pockets 85mil.

    Standard.

    #kneejerk

    In all seriousness, if we were to get say Khedira/Martinez and Mandzukic I'd be satisfied with passing on Cesc. If we go mediocre though I'm not going to be happy.
 
 
 
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