Muslim protests they don't want you to see!!!

Religion and religious extremism, (particularly Islamic extremism at the moment,) has lead to the biggest security threat within Britain, 52 people being blown to pieces on the London underground, and is probably the biggest driver of conflict in the world today - look no further than the whole Israel/Palestine mess and it's fallout. The very reason we are in Afghanistan and why 240+ young men from Britain have lost their lives, all comes back to Islamist extremism and a couple of books written 14+ centuries ago.

It's the main thing hampering the progress of mankind and needs to be talked about.

This is what Religious Extremists do to society.

If followed with the 'correct' intentions, ie. as you say, bringing harmony and forgiveness, religion can do good as well.

I mean, imagine a bunch of Christian old people from some random village in England. Chances are, rather than incite hate, they'd rather make you a cup of tea and some cake = )

IRA and before you say thats just protestants, 1) thats still christians who were behind more deaths through terrorism then the total deaths through islamic-inspired deaths in western countries. and 2) my relatives grew up in and during the troubles in northern ireland and they tell me there were as much catholic thugs then the was protestant.



erm thats actually false



and thats also false, find me evidence of shariah law being implemented in these country's legal system. Learning about English Law at the moment, I can tell you that what you said is a fantastical lie.

I don't know what it is with people that hold your kind of views anyway. You moan and bitch that the law is to easy and then you criticise Sharia Law for being to harsh. Your like a bunch of needy women that dont know what they want, all they know is that they want to make some noise

Winston Churchill is well-known for his gift of prescience and, specifically, for being the first to warn of the menace of Hitler and Nazism as early as 1932, and of the Soviet threat in his famous Iron Curtain speech in 1946 in Fulton, Mo.
He was right on the money.

But did you know that he also warned the world of the dangers of Islamic fundamentalism over 85 years ago too? I certainly did not!

The peace-loving majority of moderate Muslims are as much at risk as well from Islamist violence too. Look around the world; Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Islamist militants killing Muslims in their thousands.

In fact, here's a nice video going round the globe:


And still we're looking for some rational explanation as to why there's people that want to blow us up, scratching our heads and blaming it on ourselves because of Iraq or whatever, when in fact the reason is deeply irrational and comes from a fanatical Islamist ideology.

It's not hard to see, listen to the speeches by bombers, they say it themselves, even Choudary let's the cat out the bag; they are at war with us because we're non-believers, and the West has yet to fall to Islam.

Join the dots people:


Edit: Love the neg rep from someone that can't even spell "racist." If you're going to throw big words around, at least learn how to spell them.

Oh sorry. I didn't realise Islam was the only religion with extremists.

The US, UK and Spain: Invaded two foreign countries, killed innocent people (often by accident admittedly), the relatives of these people were pissed off and easy prey for extremists. Abu Ghraib, torture killings exponentially increased people's anger. Even in the UK, I'am sure quite a lot of people will become extremists and support the BNP, EDL if the Pakistani army came and started bombing the middle of bloody London citing security concerns in its own country.
Russia: Read up on Chechnya, no doubt that extreme and disproptionate force was used against Muslims. Many innocent people killed, their relatives easy prey for extremists.
Serbia: Slobodan Milosevic and his cronies committed genocide on the Muslim population of Bosnia- thousands of women raped, children torture, people locked in buildings and burned, buried alive.

etcetra, etcetra.

A tiny minority of Muslims are extremists, some of the extremists are terrorists and almost all the terrorists have been created out of circumstance not by religious justification. Basically don't provoke people and they won't hurt you.

The same is true in history. Jews formed resistance groups and carried out terrorist activites when they were repressed, Sikhs did do with the Golden temple and the resulting battle etc. Do the RELIGIONS justify violence? NO. The people who committ the violence are born out of circumstance and are not following their respective religion.

Finally you're a mong saying Britain's being Islamified, our numbers are under 1.5 million, that's almost the number of Christians in Pakistan.

Hitler wasn't a christian.

No, I described the version of events on topics such as "the Holocaust" and "the Crusades" being taught in Mosques as "warped" because it is a warped version of events. Hence the whole reason some schools are avoiding teaching it, because the true version of events, is different from the warped version that the Imman presents at the Mosque. .

Sorry matey, I havn't got a chuffing clue what you mean by this?!:dontask:.

Invaders of the West, or invaders from the West? Are we still talking about the Crusades?
If so, the Crusades were a delayed response to try and claim back lands that had been conquered by Muslim armies. A lot of today's Muslim countries never used to be, ya know?! They were conquered violently by the sword, as started by the prophet Mohamed. .

Christian and Islamic faith schools both teach children a very strange perspective on the world given half the chance. Look no further than Yank fundamentalist faith schools teaching creation and trying to avoid evolution.

Difference is the BNP don't go around leaving bombs on buses..

Finally you're a mong saying Britain's being Islamified, our numbers are under 1.5 million, that's almost the number of Christians in Pakistan.

Finally you're a mong saying Britain's being Islamified, our numbers are under 1.5 million, that's almost the number of Christians in Pakistan.

To make myself clear - Nazism and Communism failed because they were flawed ideologies. I do not support or advocate either.

I was not commenting on the ethcial side of Communism and Nazism; I was simply stating that their collapse was not as a result of their lack of Religous faith.

So what you're saying is - correct me if I'm wrong - that if the Nazi party had have been incredibly religous, they would not have committed mass Genocide? You do realise that Hitler was in fact a Catholic, and on many occasions Hitler spoke of his interpretation of Christianity as a central motivation for his antisemitism.

I'm not saying that he was tyrant as a result of his religous background, I am simply stating that his faith did not prevent him from committing many atroscious acts.

explain???
So your saying if that was EDL or some other white group the police would have just moved back as swell and done nothing ? Of course the police couldn't "fight" back there, as that would effectively be fighting back against Islam, which as we all know is a big no no.

Yes, he was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

On many occasions he would speak of Jesus's plight and how this inspired his antisemitic views.

They've gotten damn close though.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/01/16/bnp-member-jailed-for-making-50-bombs-115875-21971483/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talbot_Street_bomb-making_haul

Wow, that's amazing, until you take into account the fact that the population of Pakistan is nearly three times that of the UK.

Wow, that's amazing, until you take into account the fact that the population of Pakistan is nearly three times that of the UK.