No Point Going To Uni

Hello, To tell you the truth there is no point in going to uni unless you wanna do medicine,law,engineering cos graduates are not getting the jobs as they use to. My friend graduated from LSE with a 2.1 in Law, last year and has been rejected by 25 companies, and same with other people I know, there all on working allowances of 40 pounds a week from gov.
People think that just cos u got a degree u gona get a job but those days are gone. You need practical experience. Employers are keen to employ different people, so If you dont go to uni and start your own business up, they would be more interested, and more valued. Most of the subjects offered now a days can be studied in the library by reading books, eg computing, web site designing, languages.

regards

Hmm, totally disagree. It depends on your occupation, i may consider becoming a teacher, who knows...but a degree is essential - i'm too tired to argue, i'm going to go bed in a min, but your message is v. one sided...be a little open minded don't scream 'don't go to uni' because of some bad expierience...night.

Yes. Your friend should consider working for a year non pay at a company firm. That way they will have a good chance for getting a paid job.

Night.

Wat a waste of time. His human you know he needs money for survival.

Yes...and he can still claim his money from the gov...unless your "friend" is a lazy twat and so does not deserve a job.

What about learning for the sake of learning?

Accumulating letters after your name is as least as meaningful, if not more meaningful, than accumulating lots of numbers in your bank account.

Also working for a year unpaid is a nice idea in theory in practise how could you afford it? Most top firms are in London accommodation is incredibly expensive. you could not afford to live even if you worked in a bar or something part time.

You are absolutely right I have a 2.1 and I know people with firsts who have been completely unable to get grad jobs. most of the people I know have done either teacher training or masters in the hope that it will improve their prospects. These days where the grad jobs are concerned unless you are from a top 20 uni with a high degree and extra curricular activities and work exp you dont stand much chance of getting a well paid job. There are too may grads and not enough jobs

But what about my point where you could just get a normal none graduate and use the degree to get to help get promotion? Surely it is better to have a degree than not to have one.

Actually if you are getting benefits you cant work unpaid for a year, part of JSA is that you must prove that you are actively seeking employment and after a period you arent eligible anymore 26 weeks or so I think and then you would have to move onto income support if you were eligible for that, they would probably have suggested by that stage that you opt for lower paid work than the grad stuff you were applying for and you would end up taking a regular full time low paid job. You wouldnt be able to claim it if you are working part time because you cant get JSA or income support for that matter if you are working over 16 hours a week. YOu wouldnt really be able to pay rent and living cost on your benefit which would be low rate because you would be only entitled to income based JSA because you havent paid contributions and are therefore not entitled to conts JSA and maintain a comfortable standard of living. Even if you work less than 16 hours parttime they deduct the hours you work from your benefit. Also there are strict guidelines for appropriate voluntary work. If it is work for which it is reasonable to expect that you would be paid, they can deduct your jobseekers by the amount they would expect you to get paid if you were earning.
I used to work for the Department for work and pensions so I know what I'm talking about even though this wasnt my spectialist area. You certainly couldnt live in London and work for free for a year and survive on benefits unless you already lived there. Or at least you could if you were prepared to live off bread and water and not go out for an entire year.

In my experience it is ok if you have a really practical degree, if not it can actually hinder you. I've been rejected from jobs because they feel you are over qualified with a degree and wont stay. I've worked in the civil service and although the have a fast track grad scheme eligibility for entry is very limited, you are only really considered for promotion if you have worked in a variety of departments and gained a variety of on the job skills which would involve several years work.
In some cases I do think it is actually better not to have a degree.