Dogs and University?
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Original post by FranticMind
Abusing? If it was bad you should have kicked the crap out of them.
Abusing dogs is just wrong - people should get serious punishments for it.
Abusing dogs is just wrong - people should get serious punishments for it.
its taken a few months of counseling, but Im pleased to report he's barking again
Original post by modgepodge
I get that you're a student, and when I was a student i was home more. But 3 years time, you'll (hopefully) have a job, and quite possibly one that means you're out for longer than 8-5 (realistically those are fairly short working hours including travelling) and a dog does need more attention. Worse, you may not get a job after uni, meaning you won't be able to afford the food or vet bills for the dog.
On top of this, every house I've lived in before this one has said no pets in the contract. On this one, we negotiated having a pet, and even then most places we asked said no dogs, and we had to pay £200 pet fee for the privilage. Other places wanted double the amount of deposit (baring in mind the deposit on our 3 bed house was over £1k, that's a lot). Also, who will you live with? Are they happy to have a dog? A friend of mine lives with someone who got a dog a few weeks back. Thankfully they're both moving out really soon cos she absolutely hates the dog - whenever her housemate is out the dog just barks and barks. her housemate is a paramedic working 12 hour shifts. Fun and games!
On top of this, every house I've lived in before this one has said no pets in the contract. On this one, we negotiated having a pet, and even then most places we asked said no dogs, and we had to pay £200 pet fee for the privilage. Other places wanted double the amount of deposit (baring in mind the deposit on our 3 bed house was over £1k, that's a lot). Also, who will you live with? Are they happy to have a dog? A friend of mine lives with someone who got a dog a few weeks back. Thankfully they're both moving out really soon cos she absolutely hates the dog - whenever her housemate is out the dog just barks and barks. her housemate is a paramedic working 12 hour shifts. Fun and games!
I already have a job, it is a job that does not kick in big time until the summer months (due to harvesting for instance), most of it is done by phone with the occasional trip to France... this job is a job I should be going full time with once I finish university although it will be the same as it is now but larger market
I'll keep searching for a place that allows dogs, I have the money plus access to more should I need it, I am not sharing with anyone but myself (don't really like anyone on my course, well not enough to want to share a house with them).
I think it is just the initial financial costs that I have to consider as well as a dog sitter for the long days as I have pretty much settled on getting a Chihuahua (well two of them as it is better apparently, same (approximate) cost monthly as one Rottweiler)... the only thing I have to do now is find a place to live.
Get a rescue.
Find a local rehoming centre, go and have a look at the dogs they have. If you really like one, go back and visit a few times. Explain your situation to the people that work there and they'll help you find one more suited to your lifestyle.
Not a puppy = no worries about house training.
Older dogs are gonna be more contented being left alone than a puppy would be (obviously after a period of weeks getting it used to your house and routine but that's standard for any new dog).
Also, with regards to a long term commitment - not to put too fine a point on it - a rescue isn't going to live as long as a puppy. And you will have given a lovely deserving animal the nicest end to it's days.
This is what I intend to do when I move out of halls (providing my accommodation allows pets).
Find a local rehoming centre, go and have a look at the dogs they have. If you really like one, go back and visit a few times. Explain your situation to the people that work there and they'll help you find one more suited to your lifestyle.
Not a puppy = no worries about house training.
Older dogs are gonna be more contented being left alone than a puppy would be (obviously after a period of weeks getting it used to your house and routine but that's standard for any new dog).
Also, with regards to a long term commitment - not to put too fine a point on it - a rescue isn't going to live as long as a puppy. And you will have given a lovely deserving animal the nicest end to it's days.
This is what I intend to do when I move out of halls (providing my accommodation allows pets).
Original post by eagleowl
Get a rescue.
Find a local rehoming centre, go and have a look at the dogs they have. If you really like one, go back and visit a few times. Explain your situation to the people that work there and they'll help you find one more suited to your lifestyle.
Not a puppy = no worries about house training.
Older dogs are gonna be more contented being left alone than a puppy would be (obviously after a period of weeks getting it used to your house and routine but that's standard for any new dog).
Also, with regards to a long term commitment - not to put too fine a point on it - a rescue isn't going to live as long as a puppy. And you will have given a lovely deserving animal the nicest end to it's days.
This is what I intend to do when I move out of halls (providing my accommodation allows pets).
Find a local rehoming centre, go and have a look at the dogs they have. If you really like one, go back and visit a few times. Explain your situation to the people that work there and they'll help you find one more suited to your lifestyle.
Not a puppy = no worries about house training.
Older dogs are gonna be more contented being left alone than a puppy would be (obviously after a period of weeks getting it used to your house and routine but that's standard for any new dog).
Also, with regards to a long term commitment - not to put too fine a point on it - a rescue isn't going to live as long as a puppy. And you will have given a lovely deserving animal the nicest end to it's days.
This is what I intend to do when I move out of halls (providing my accommodation allows pets).
I have thought about rescue dogs but if I am honest I am nervous as hell with them, no idea why I just am, but I will look into it further
Original post by Crawfords
Uni is possibly the worst place imaginable for a dog to live; I sincerely hope you don’t buy 1, the poor thing
The dog won't be living in university nor halls.
Original post by tehFrance
I have thought about rescue dogs but if I am honest I am nervous as hell with them, no idea why I just am, but I will look into it further
From personal experience of having had 5 rescue dogs and working in an animal shelter I can tell you there are some gorgeous, gentle, loving pets out there in search of a home.
I think it's a shame when people spend hundreds of pounds on a puppy when there are dogs being put down every day because the rescues don't have space.
Rescues ftw!
Original post by Bowman.Hath
its taken a few months of counseling, but Im pleased to report he's barking again
Yeah really funny. Animals shouldn't be abused. End of discussion.
Personally I wouldn't get any dog in your current situation. A Dalmatian or Rottie spending hours alone in a flat would be absolutely disastrous and I'm afraid you wouldn't find any reputable breeder to sell you a puppy anyway.
I think you are considering what is YOUR best interests over that of the animal. A caged animal would be more appropriate for your situation.
I think you are considering what is YOUR best interests over that of the animal. A caged animal would be more appropriate for your situation.
Yeah, I think the majority of people have already expressed the same opinion now :P Don't get a dog. Maybe a goldfish. I mean, I love dogs as much as the next person, wouldn't give mine up for the world, but yeah, when you're still in the midst of education and even if that only takes up 4 hours of a day, you're not gonna get much of a social life outside the dog walk if you get one
Don't. Seriously.
I have my dog at Uni with my housemates dog also, and we live in a house my parents bought me. If I didn't live with them, having my dog would be impossible as sometimes I have lectures 8-6 .
I got my dog after gcses so had years to prepare him for staying alone for long periods of time. A puppy or even a young dog will not have that experience and so leaving them at home may end in alot of anxiety.
I am doing an animal based course so am able to take my dog to Uni with me occasionally. I alsonplan to have an 'animally' job once graduated.
If you get a full time job you will be spending money to live and may not necessarily have money to live comfortably with another mouth to feed.
Also- you gave a wide variety of breeds of which none are alike. If you were to get a dog rotties and dalmatians are not good for a first time owner (this is even if you've had family dogs)
Rotties are unfortunately quite unhealthy so will cost more in vets
Both rots and dals can be dog aggressive and dals in particular are very stubborn.
Chis are very easy to keep eat less and generally cost less.
However no matter which dog you get, if you get from a puppy I seriously suggest waiting a few years boding a relationship with some breeders and eventually getting a very well bred health checked dog. Don't go for what's cheapest or easiest available.
I have my dog at Uni with my housemates dog also, and we live in a house my parents bought me. If I didn't live with them, having my dog would be impossible as sometimes I have lectures 8-6 .
I got my dog after gcses so had years to prepare him for staying alone for long periods of time. A puppy or even a young dog will not have that experience and so leaving them at home may end in alot of anxiety.
I am doing an animal based course so am able to take my dog to Uni with me occasionally. I alsonplan to have an 'animally' job once graduated.
If you get a full time job you will be spending money to live and may not necessarily have money to live comfortably with another mouth to feed.
Also- you gave a wide variety of breeds of which none are alike. If you were to get a dog rotties and dalmatians are not good for a first time owner (this is even if you've had family dogs)
Rotties are unfortunately quite unhealthy so will cost more in vets
Both rots and dals can be dog aggressive and dals in particular are very stubborn.
Chis are very easy to keep eat less and generally cost less.
However no matter which dog you get, if you get from a puppy I seriously suggest waiting a few years boding a relationship with some breeders and eventually getting a very well bred health checked dog. Don't go for what's cheapest or easiest available.
Original post by Leooonie
First time owner.
I am not a first time owner, I have had my own dogs as well as family dogs, I know what I am doing although living with family gives more flexibility.
Any I decided against it based on the opportunity to leave the country.
Original post by tehFrance
I am not a first time owner, I have had my own dogs as well as family dogs, I know what I am doing although living with family gives more flexibility.
Any I decided against it based on the opportunity to leave the country.
Any I decided against it based on the opportunity to leave the country.
Was just saying even people that have owned these dogs before often find them difficult.
Original post by tehFrance
I was thinking about getting a dog walker for the days that I have a full day and cannot get back to the flat for an hour or so and if I can no longer look after him/her my mum said she could take him/her in so in a way I have the looking after bases covered, right?
Well no dog is okay to be left alone as a puppy, no matter which breed I intend on putting him.her through a puppy training class. Is there a reason that a Rottweiler is okay to be left alone more than say a Chihuahua or Dalmatian being left alone for the same time frame?
Cheers for the reply
Well no dog is okay to be left alone as a puppy, no matter which breed I intend on putting him.her through a puppy training class. Is there a reason that a Rottweiler is okay to be left alone more than say a Chihuahua or Dalmatian being left alone for the same time frame?
Cheers for the reply
Getting a dog walker and training classes is all well and good, but that's not really you having a dog. It's exactly the same as relying on other people to have YOUR dog. You'd be better off waiting until you can commit to owning a dog with a reasonable time-frame to spend time with it rather than having a very feeble relationship with your dog. Training and walking are a main form of bonding between dogs and dog owners (it's how they learn respect for their owners!)
Now why can't he get a dog?
When I started first year university I got my german shepherd puppy.
It was a long few weeks where you will have to keep a eye on theme because they will need your constant attention,
But once they are 6-8 months old its okay. I used to go uni at times 8-5 and my boys alone. And he's used to it.
He is the most friendly dog has not problems with other dog's, and is great with everyone, but now he likes his own space,
because he was brought up alone.
But you have to exercise the dog everyday, if I don't take my boy for a 2 mile bike ride every morning.
He's now 2 years old and fully trained he can stay alone for a number of hours, he mostly sleeps in the day as it is. But yes you
must exercise the dog everyday to have them calm and chilled throughout the day.
Ow and I forgot to say hes a outside dog, he has his own small 5 metre by 8 metre brick home with a huge window, so when he feel's sleep he goes their he doesn't bark at all, only if someone is near his garden. He sleeps their all night only when he was a puppy he lived inside with me for 7 months.
When I started first year university I got my german shepherd puppy.
It was a long few weeks where you will have to keep a eye on theme because they will need your constant attention,
But once they are 6-8 months old its okay. I used to go uni at times 8-5 and my boys alone. And he's used to it.
He is the most friendly dog has not problems with other dog's, and is great with everyone, but now he likes his own space,
because he was brought up alone.
But you have to exercise the dog everyday, if I don't take my boy for a 2 mile bike ride every morning.
He's now 2 years old and fully trained he can stay alone for a number of hours, he mostly sleeps in the day as it is. But yes you
must exercise the dog everyday to have them calm and chilled throughout the day.
Ow and I forgot to say hes a outside dog, he has his own small 5 metre by 8 metre brick home with a huge window, so when he feel's sleep he goes their he doesn't bark at all, only if someone is near his garden. He sleeps their all night only when he was a puppy he lived inside with me for 7 months.
(edited 10 years ago)
Do what we did: fantasise about getting a dog or cat and then do the sensible thing and get a hamster. They sleep all day, you play with them in the evening and then they run in their wheel all night. Even then it restricts your lifestyle. No parties as drunk people microwave pets, no trips away longer than about three nights. Luckily between the three of us there's always someone to look after him and we're not party people really.
DO NOT GET A DOG. They are a long term commitment and you don't have long term stability.
DO NOT GET A DOG. They are a long term commitment and you don't have long term stability.
Hey!
I had a dog during my student life and I have to say that's actually the best time because you're pretty flexible concerning your time table etc. I got my dog from an animal shelter while I was still in school. I think it's a good idea to get an older dog and not a puppy if you don't know what comes after your studies.
I don't regret getting a dog while I was a student. However, you should be aware that you have to plan your day around your dog. So if you're at uni 5 hours a day and your friends decide they want to go to the pub afterwards, you probably have to head home and walk your dog instead of socialising. I lived in Germany most of the time, where having a dog is a bit easier because they are allowed in shops, restaurants, pubs etc. You can basically take him anywhere you're going (except to the cinema or the swimming pool, but that's where you don't want to take him anyway I suppose ;-). I then moved to Edinburgh for my MSc studies and took my dog with me. Which I don't regret either because it was great to walk him in the hills and explore the countryside. However, I found it more difficult compared to my life in Germany because you can't take the dog anywhere. So I ended up spending a lot of time on my own with the dog while my friends were going out (if I had a long day at uni - if I had uni 4 hours in the morning I had enough time to walk my dog in the afternoon so he was tired enough when I went out). I don't have a problem because I'm used to it but it might be a bit challenging if you have to change your life like this.
Having said this, I also didn't expect that my dog is so healthy that he celebrated his 15th birthday last week. After my studies I found it extremely difficult to find a job because I didn't want to leave my dog alone all day. I had a great job offer from Vienna, but said no because it wasn't compatible with having a dog. I ended up moving to a city I didn't like and working in a job I liked even less, but where I could work from home 3 days a week so I could be with my dog.
My dog is also one of the reasons I'm going to start a PhD in Scotland this year. I can work from home most of the time for the next 3 years and sit in the hills with my books and take walks in my lunch break. I don't want to put you off getting a dog, I just want to tell you what it's like. I love my life how it is just now, I can't imagine a life without my dog and am already dreading the day he's going to pass away. But you also have a huge responsibility. A dog has feelings like you and me and he won't understand if you give him away after your studies because your life has changed. So please think this through, ask yourself in how far you're willing to change your lifestyle for a dog and if your job agrees with having a dog. Maybe you study something which allows you to start your own business, which would again allow you to take your dog with you in the office. But maybe you will end up in a lab 40 hours a week and have to give your dog to a pet sitter (which I personally wouldn't want to do for 5 days a week). But these are questions noone can help you with and that you have to answer for yourself.
I wish you good luck with your decision and if you have any questions don't hesitate to write me a message!
I had a dog during my student life and I have to say that's actually the best time because you're pretty flexible concerning your time table etc. I got my dog from an animal shelter while I was still in school. I think it's a good idea to get an older dog and not a puppy if you don't know what comes after your studies.
I don't regret getting a dog while I was a student. However, you should be aware that you have to plan your day around your dog. So if you're at uni 5 hours a day and your friends decide they want to go to the pub afterwards, you probably have to head home and walk your dog instead of socialising. I lived in Germany most of the time, where having a dog is a bit easier because they are allowed in shops, restaurants, pubs etc. You can basically take him anywhere you're going (except to the cinema or the swimming pool, but that's where you don't want to take him anyway I suppose ;-). I then moved to Edinburgh for my MSc studies and took my dog with me. Which I don't regret either because it was great to walk him in the hills and explore the countryside. However, I found it more difficult compared to my life in Germany because you can't take the dog anywhere. So I ended up spending a lot of time on my own with the dog while my friends were going out (if I had a long day at uni - if I had uni 4 hours in the morning I had enough time to walk my dog in the afternoon so he was tired enough when I went out). I don't have a problem because I'm used to it but it might be a bit challenging if you have to change your life like this.
Having said this, I also didn't expect that my dog is so healthy that he celebrated his 15th birthday last week. After my studies I found it extremely difficult to find a job because I didn't want to leave my dog alone all day. I had a great job offer from Vienna, but said no because it wasn't compatible with having a dog. I ended up moving to a city I didn't like and working in a job I liked even less, but where I could work from home 3 days a week so I could be with my dog.
My dog is also one of the reasons I'm going to start a PhD in Scotland this year. I can work from home most of the time for the next 3 years and sit in the hills with my books and take walks in my lunch break. I don't want to put you off getting a dog, I just want to tell you what it's like. I love my life how it is just now, I can't imagine a life without my dog and am already dreading the day he's going to pass away. But you also have a huge responsibility. A dog has feelings like you and me and he won't understand if you give him away after your studies because your life has changed. So please think this through, ask yourself in how far you're willing to change your lifestyle for a dog and if your job agrees with having a dog. Maybe you study something which allows you to start your own business, which would again allow you to take your dog with you in the office. But maybe you will end up in a lab 40 hours a week and have to give your dog to a pet sitter (which I personally wouldn't want to do for 5 days a week). But these are questions noone can help you with and that you have to answer for yourself.
I wish you good luck with your decision and if you have any questions don't hesitate to write me a message!
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