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Is there any national table where you can find some stats like this?
On TSR if you look at the various uni applicants stalking pages, it seems like a significant percent get a couple of A*s or more (or at least predicted)
so is there any way of finding out what the national average is?
On TSR if you look at the various uni applicants stalking pages, it seems like a significant percent get a couple of A*s or more (or at least predicted)
so is there any way of finding out what the national average is?
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I don't know but I would suggest that you ignore the stats on TSR as I would not say it is representative of all british students. Also bear in mind that a couple of months ago there was a news story about how only 10% of predictions are right etc.
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I don't know but I would suggest that you ignore the stats on TSR as I would not say it is representative of all british students. Also bear in mind that a couple of months ago there was a news story about how only 10% of predictions are right etc.
I don't know but I would suggest that you ignore the stats on TSR as I would not say it is representative of all british students. Also bear in mind that a couple of months ago there was a news story about how only 10% of predictions are right etc.
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yeah that's why I was wondering it. That doesn't surprise me though, but I doubt theres many more students under achieving their predicted grades than over achieving them.
yeah that's why I was wondering it. That doesn't surprise me though, but I doubt theres many more students under achieving their predicted grades than over achieving them.
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like me. so annoyed I worked so hard for my first sit of the exams but worked less when I repeated in the next exam series and got my predicted grades that time. somethings not right here?
like me. so annoyed I worked so hard for my first sit of the exams but worked less when I repeated in the next exam series and got my predicted grades that time. somethings not right here?
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I was predicted ABB and rejected from all my choices last year for dentistry because of it. I actually got A*A*A... something is very wrong with our predictions system and i've been on the crappy end of it, most of the time they're glorified guesses designed to tick a box in an application rather than be a true reflection of what the applicant in question is truely capable of.
Bring on the new system if you ask me.
Bring on the new system if you ask me.
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anyone with a helpful answer? :P
anyone with a helpful answer? :P
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Bear in mind on the student room that people with more 'average' (even if still good) grades are going to be less likely to post them online than the multiple A* club, because yah know, if you've got it, flaunt it. On lots of AAB courses and stuff on all the applicants threads all the users are like 'predicted A*A*A*' etc. when if everyone on the course got those kind of grades, the entry requirements would reflect it.
The whole idea of the A* was to separate the super good from the good. It would be utterly pointless if everyone got straight A*s. I think, though I can't be sure, around 10% of all Alevels are A*s, meaning that roughly one in three people will get one A*. (Obviously it's not as simple as that: There'll be schools at which no one gets A*s and others have most of their students achieving straight As and A*s, but it should give you an idea)
I don't have any evidence to prove it but I'd be willing to bet there's more straight A*s in maths/science students than in any other area. Moat people I know who have got 3, 4 or 5 A*s have done Maths, Further Maths, Chemistry, Physics and Biology. It's not that these subjects are easier, it's just that some people have a mind for it which means at least at A level it's kinda easy. I only know two people predicted A*A*A* for none-mathsy/sciencey subjects, whereas I can think of several who are applying to medicine or maths or physics et al.
The whole idea of the A* was to separate the super good from the good. It would be utterly pointless if everyone got straight A*s. I think, though I can't be sure, around 10% of all Alevels are A*s, meaning that roughly one in three people will get one A*. (Obviously it's not as simple as that: There'll be schools at which no one gets A*s and others have most of their students achieving straight As and A*s, but it should give you an idea)
I don't have any evidence to prove it but I'd be willing to bet there's more straight A*s in maths/science students than in any other area. Moat people I know who have got 3, 4 or 5 A*s have done Maths, Further Maths, Chemistry, Physics and Biology. It's not that these subjects are easier, it's just that some people have a mind for it which means at least at A level it's kinda easy. I only know two people predicted A*A*A* for none-mathsy/sciencey subjects, whereas I can think of several who are applying to medicine or maths or physics et al.
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(Original post by Benniboi1)
anyone with a helpful answer? :P
anyone with a helpful answer? :P
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-16730017
A-Levels are trickier to find info for (no idea why). I can find Local Authority Data but not overall national data.
Liverpool for example:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/ed...1/html/341.stm
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A/AS POINTS SCORE (PER PUPIL)
Students' attainment at Key Stage 5 - between the ages of 16 and 18 - is shown in the BBC's tables by the average number of points per pupil in a range of advanced level qualifications including A-level, AS level, the International Baccalaureate and some vocational qualifications.
A points system takes into account both the grade achieved and the volume of content covered in the course.
For example, an A* grade in a chemistry GCSE is 58 points; a merit award in a BTec First Diploma in applied science is 184. An average is then calculated per student for each school. The more qualifications undertaken by a student and the higher the grades achieved, the higher the average point score per student.
In the BBC's tables, the number of pupils at the school is used as a tie-break when the tables are ranked by A/AS-level point scores.
SECONDARY: A/AS POINTS SCORE (PER ENTRY)
Points are allocated for a range of advanced level qualifications including A-level, AS-level, the International Baccalaureate and some vocational qualifications, depending on the grade achieved. The number of points per entry is the total number of points achieved by pupils in a school, divided by the total number of exam entries.
It shows the average grade (higher scores mean better grades) per qualification for each school - whereas the points score per pupil reflects both the number of qualifications and the grades achieved.
This measure is only used in the BBC tables in the list of top-performing institutions at Key Stage 5, but can be seen on the government's data page for each individual institution.
Students' attainment at Key Stage 5 - between the ages of 16 and 18 - is shown in the BBC's tables by the average number of points per pupil in a range of advanced level qualifications including A-level, AS level, the International Baccalaureate and some vocational qualifications.
A points system takes into account both the grade achieved and the volume of content covered in the course.
For example, an A* grade in a chemistry GCSE is 58 points; a merit award in a BTec First Diploma in applied science is 184. An average is then calculated per student for each school. The more qualifications undertaken by a student and the higher the grades achieved, the higher the average point score per student.
In the BBC's tables, the number of pupils at the school is used as a tie-break when the tables are ranked by A/AS-level point scores.
SECONDARY: A/AS POINTS SCORE (PER ENTRY)
Points are allocated for a range of advanced level qualifications including A-level, AS-level, the International Baccalaureate and some vocational qualifications, depending on the grade achieved. The number of points per entry is the total number of points achieved by pupils in a school, divided by the total number of exam entries.
It shows the average grade (higher scores mean better grades) per qualification for each school - whereas the points score per pupil reflects both the number of qualifications and the grades achieved.
This measure is only used in the BBC tables in the list of top-performing institutions at Key Stage 5, but can be seen on the government's data page for each individual institution.
Government A-level data (search by region):
http://www.education.gov.uk/cgi-bin/...chname&ord=asc
Helpful: http://www.education.gov.uk/performa...owtoread.shtml
This article from 2011 claims that the national average for A* is 8% and national average for A is 18%
http://www.times-series.co.uk/news/9...ional_average/
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Bear in mind on the student room that people with more 'average' (even if still good) grades are going to be less likely to post them online than the multiple A* club, because yah know, if you've got it, flaunt it. On lots of AAB courses and stuff on all the applicants threads all the users are like 'predicted A*A*A*' etc. when if everyone on the course got those kind of grades, the entry requirements would reflect it.
The whole idea of the A* was to separate the super good from the good. It would be utterly pointless if everyone got straight A*s. I think, though I can't be sure, around 10% of all Alevels are A*s, meaning that roughly one in three people will get one A*. (Obviously it's not as simple as that: There'll be schools at which no one gets A*s and others have most of their students achieving straight As and A*s, but it should give you an idea)
I don't have any evidence to prove it but I'd be willing to bet there's more straight A*s in maths/science students than in any other area. Moat people I know who have got 3, 4 or 5 A*s have done Maths, Further Maths, Chemistry, Physics and Biology. It's not that these subjects are easier, it's just that some people have a mind for it which means at least at A level it's kinda easy. I only know two people predicted A*A*A* for none-mathsy/sciencey subjects, whereas I can think of several who are applying to medicine or maths or physics et al.
Bear in mind on the student room that people with more 'average' (even if still good) grades are going to be less likely to post them online than the multiple A* club, because yah know, if you've got it, flaunt it. On lots of AAB courses and stuff on all the applicants threads all the users are like 'predicted A*A*A*' etc. when if everyone on the course got those kind of grades, the entry requirements would reflect it.
The whole idea of the A* was to separate the super good from the good. It would be utterly pointless if everyone got straight A*s. I think, though I can't be sure, around 10% of all Alevels are A*s, meaning that roughly one in three people will get one A*. (Obviously it's not as simple as that: There'll be schools at which no one gets A*s and others have most of their students achieving straight As and A*s, but it should give you an idea)
I don't have any evidence to prove it but I'd be willing to bet there's more straight A*s in maths/science students than in any other area. Moat people I know who have got 3, 4 or 5 A*s have done Maths, Further Maths, Chemistry, Physics and Biology. It's not that these subjects are easier, it's just that some people have a mind for it which means at least at A level it's kinda easy. I only know two people predicted A*A*A* for none-mathsy/sciencey subjects, whereas I can think of several who are applying to medicine or maths or physics et al.
I think the fact Maths, FM and Physics are extremely similar in terms of content makes 3 A* in them probably the highest combination of A*s. I would think that getting an A* in English lang is a lot different (requires different abilities) than A* in English Lit would in comparison to maths and further maths
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(Original post by somethingbeautiful)
GCSE's nationally:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-16730017
A-Levels are trickier to find info for (no idea why). I can find Local Authority Data but not overall national data.
Liverpool for example:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/ed...1/html/341.stm
Government A-level data (search by region):
http://www.education.gov.uk/cgi-bin/...chname&ord=asc
Helpful: http://www.education.gov.uk/performa...owtoread.shtml
This article from 2011 claims that the national average for A* is 8% and national average for A is 18%
http://www.times-series.co.uk/news/9...ional_average/
GCSE's nationally:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-16730017
A-Levels are trickier to find info for (no idea why). I can find Local Authority Data but not overall national data.
Liverpool for example:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/ed...1/html/341.stm
Government A-level data (search by region):
http://www.education.gov.uk/cgi-bin/...chname&ord=asc
Helpful: http://www.education.gov.uk/performa...owtoread.shtml
This article from 2011 claims that the national average for A* is 8% and national average for A is 18%
http://www.times-series.co.uk/news/9...ional_average/
the average points score for my sixth form was 630 points, (300 points for an A*, 270 for an A..) so theoretically, the average grades, assuming everyone did 3 A-levels, would be 630/3 = 210 points for each Alevel, which is basically 3 C's... do uni's ever compare a students predicted grades to the average at their college? I know the Oxbridge compare how many A*'s at GCSE you get with what the average was for your school, but what about A-level comparisons?
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(Original post by Benniboi1)
I think the fact Maths, FM and Physics are extremely similar in terms of content makes 3 A* in them probably the highest combination of A*s. I would think that getting an A* in English lang is a lot different (requires different abilities) than A* in English Lit would in comparison to maths and further maths
I think the fact Maths, FM and Physics are extremely similar in terms of content makes 3 A* in them probably the highest combination of A*s. I would think that getting an A* in English lang is a lot different (requires different abilities) than A* in English Lit would in comparison to maths and further maths
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