Do You Believe in God?

Powerline

theres no way i can prove to you how i know that God truly exists. Just read the Bible or sumthing, all this anger is not good for me.

But the Bible doesn't prove anything. It is written by people who believed in your god anyway, and so it is no better proof that what you have written here.

Don't you see that you are angry because you know deep down that this god doesn't exist? The only reason that you believe in your god, is because you have been brought up to. When you say that you know that your god exists, it is simply because you have convinced yourself (doubtless with the help of others) that it is so.

Your so-called "faith" is wasted. You just think that someone is listening to your prayers, but it it yourself that answer.

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Joey_Johns

I suggest you read the bible, then compare to stories from Ancient Greece and Egypt. The whole Christian religion actually originates from Ancient Egypt.

no point. These people say that the bible was "made up" by some bored people.

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oldthrashbarg

But the Bible doesn't prove anything. It is written by people who believed in your god anyway, and so it is no better proof that what you have written here.

Don't you see that you are angry because you know deep down that this god doesn't exist? The only reason that you believe in your god, is because you have been brought up to. When you say that you know that your god exists, it is simply because you have convinced yourself (doubtless with the help of others) that it is so.

Your so-called "faith" is wasted. You just think that someone is listening to your prayers, but it it yourself that answer.

i didnt say that the Bible proved anything. i even agree with you on this one-the bible was written by men, not God/Jesus, even though some suggest that they were guided by God.

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MattG

oldthrashbarg

Your so-called "faith" is wasted. You just think that someone is listening to your prayers, but it it yourself that answer.

reminds me of "the colour purple" a character says "people go into church to find god but all i see is people bringing their own in"

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MattG

what about the evil and suffering around the world?

how can a god omni-potent and the creator of this world allow such things to exist, furthermore create a world in which nature is deadly in the form of natural disasters?

i dont know. stop bothering me. i dont think that god is omninous, he gives us free will so that we can make our own decisions if we want to choose the right path, but gave us conscience to guide us if we listen.

natural disasters occur for scientific reasons - i do not believe that God makes tham things happen.

i can be bothered to explain anyway, no one listens anyway.

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Powerline

i didnt say that the Bible proved anything. i even agree with you on this one-the bible was written by men, not God/Jesus, even though some suggest that they were guided by God.

Well it is good to hear that you don't believe that at least. But as far as I am aware, the Bible itself is not generally considered holy by christians (as opposed to the Qur'an).

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Powerline

i dont know. stop bothering me. i dont think that god is omninous, he gives us free will so that we can make our own decisions if we want to choose the right path, but gave us conscience to guide us if we listen.

natural disasters... theres some science involved.....volcanoes erupt because...blah blah science.....earth quakes occur because...science

i can be bothered to explain anyway, no one listens anyway.

We do listen to what you say. We just don't agree. You can't expect to be left alone when you go around postulating things such as the existence of a god.

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oldthrashbarg

But the Bible doesn't prove anything. It is written by people who believed in your god anyway, and so it is no better proof that what you have written here.

Don't you see that you are angry because you know deep down that this god doesn't exist? The only reason that you believe in your god, is because you have been brought up to. When you say that you know that your god exists, it is simply because you have convinced yourself (doubtless with the help of others) that it is so.

Your so-called "faith" is wasted. You just think that someone is listening to your prayers, but it it yourself that answer.

Maybe i only do have faith in God because i was brought up to do so,. but if it is true, it is better to have believed, than not believe until it is too late.

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Joey_Johns

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Powerline

no point. These people say that the bible was "made up" by some bored people.

No, not made up. A lot of the stories were just altered versions of Ancient Greek, Persian and Egyptian stories. Thats the OT. The NT is a joke because non of the gospel writers actually knew Jesus. The only one who did know Jesus, Paul had his writings disregarded by early christians because they made Jesus not as PC as you'd expect. In other words he had kids, got drunk etc which doesnt make him that good a role model thus not helping this 'new' religon to catch on.

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MattG

Powerline

i dont know. stop bothering me. i dont think that god is omninous, he gives us free will so that we can make our own decisions if we want to choose the right path, but gave us conscience to guide us if we listen.

natural disasters... theres some science involved.....volcanoes erupt because...blah blah science.....earth quakes occur because...science

i can be bothered to explain anyway, no one listens anyway.

so you think that he created the world, gave us free will and a conscience and let us go? so does he stand back and watch the world from afar, hoping and rewarding those that follow the "right" path? but ignoring those who suffer?

As David Hume has argued if God is willing but not able then God is impotent. If God is able but not willing then God is corrupt. If God is able and willing: Why is there evil?

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oldthrashbarg

Well it is good to hear that you don't believe that at least. But as far as I am aware, the Bible itself is not generally considered holy by christians (as opposed to the Qur'an).

AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU DONT BELIEVE IN GOD, I DO!, SO LETS JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

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MattG

Powerline

AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU DONT BELIEVE IN GOD, I DO!, SO LETS JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

no, you came on here believing athiests to be stupid

hopefully we have widened your mind :wink:

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Powerline

Maybe i only do have faith in God because i was brought up to do so,. but if it is true, it is better to have believed, than not believe until it is too late.

So what you are saying is that it is better to believe just in case. That is not faith.

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Powerline

AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU DONT BELIEVE IN GOD, I DO!, SO LETS JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

Ahhh... desperation. Doubting are we?

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Empedocles

These are very big questions that will NEVER be resolved. There is good in the world and there is bad. T'was ever thus and t'will ever be.

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]{ingnik

Powerline

Maybe i only do have faith in God because i was brought up to do so,. but if it is true, it is better to have believed, than not believe until it is too late.

better to have not believed and wasted time i say.

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Ahh... Looks as if Powerline has stolen silently into the night.

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oldthrashbarg

Ahh... Looks as if Powerline has stolen silently into the night.

Theres no point argueing with you anyway.

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