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Jeremy Clarkson angers people (yet again)

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***ing crybabies.
Right someone copy and pasted the Sunday Times article onto /r/TopGear so here it is

A Top Gear film shoot in the wilds of Argentina ended in a dramatic escape. Jeremy Clarkson reveals how he hid under a bed from an armed mob baying for his blood
It all started to go wrong while we were filming on a mountain in the world’s southernmost ski resort, just outside the city of Ushuaia in Tierra del Fuego.
We knew Ushuaia was the port from which the General Belgrano had sailed on its doomed voyage at the start of the Falklands War and we knew that anti-British feelings still run hard and deep, here at the bottom of the world.
As a result we were on our best behaviour. We were posing for all photographs, and happily accepting requests for autographs. The sun was out. All was calm. We were even referring to the slopes as “gradients” Certainly there was no suggestion that we had walked into the middle of a war we thought had ended 32 years ago. But then came word from the bottom of the mountain. Some protesters had arrived and were keen to let everyone know they were unhappy with our visit. Our producers tried to explain that we were there to film at the ski resort and then to host a game of car football in the city. England v Argentina. The Bottom of the World Cup we were going to call it.
They were not listening. They were angry. They said that they were not violent but that a group of men from the local truckers’ trade union were on their way. And that when they arrived things would definitely turn nasty. Our local fixers advised that we stop filming immediately, leave the cars on the gradients and go to a nearby hotel.
“This is a mafia state,” said one onlooker. “Best you do as you’re told.”
So we did, but going to the hotel did not work. A gang of people were waiting there. They said they were war veterans, which seemed unlikely as most were in their twenties and thirties. Bonnets were banged. Abuse was hurled. The police arrived and immediately breathalysed Andy Wilman, our executive producer we’re not sure why.
Richard Hammond, James May and I bravely hid under the beds in a researcher’s room while protesters went through the hotel looking for us. The car park was filling up. More were arriving. This was starting to get ugly.
Back at home, newspapers were saying I had caused the problem by arriving in this political tinderbox in a Porsche bearing the numberplate H982FKL, which if you turned the H into a 1 and transposed the K and the L, could have been seen as a reference to the 1982 Falklands War.
This, however, was untrue. The car had indeed arrived in Argentina with those plates, but two days into our journey, when we were in Chile, a Twitter user pointed out the problem so we removed them.
When we arrived in Tierra del Fuego the car had no plate at all on the front and a meaningless jumble of letters and numbers on the back. And no, it wasn’ W3WON. Which it would have been if I’d been trying to ruffle feathers.
The numberplate then wasn’t the issue. But something was causing more and more people to arrive at the hotel. Twitter was rammed with messages from locals saying they wanted blood. One said they were going to barbecue us and eat the meat.
“Burn them. Burn their cars,” said another. Mob rule was in the driving seat.
Government officials then stepped in saying we were no longer welcome in the city, that our safety could not be guaranteed and that we needed to leave Argentina immediately. Plainly they had given us permission to visit simply so they could make political capital from ejecting us when we arrived.
The problem was: how do you leave when the streets are filled with mobs with pickaxe handles, paving stones and bricks? No one had an answer to that one.
Chile is a spit away across the Beagle Channel but we weren’t allowed to cross it because Argentina says it owns the land on the other side, too. We therefore gathered up as many possessions as we could, rounded up the girls from our party and made a dash for the airport.
That night we were in Buenos Aires among sensible Argentinians who couldn’t believe what had happened. And the next morning we were back in Britain.
We felt that with us three gone the situation might calm down. It didn’t.
We had left behind 29 people; cameramen, sound recordists, fixers, locals and producers. They had to make their escape overland in a ragtag collection of hired 4x4s, trucks and the three “star” cars that they had been told to remove from the ski resort.
They faced a long, bumpy and gruelling six-hour trek to the Chilean border and safety. But in the first town the locals were ready. A lorry was blocking the road and as our convoy approached, it reversed at speed towards them, forcing our guys onto the verges, which were filled with people who made it plain they wanted blood. Bricks were hurled, windscreens were smashed and two of the party were cut by flying glass. But they made it through.
And then they had a problem. The next city was Rio Grande. And the word from there was that 300 cars and thousands of locals were setting up an ambush. This turned out to be true.
The British embassies in Chile and Argentina were doing their best to get a police escort. And the nine of us who had escaped were in a hotel room in Buenos Aires working through the night to find a plane and an airfield from which they could get out because, make no mistake, lives were at stake.
Meanwhile, a chase had begun. Our guys were being herded towards the ambush. So they abandoned the star cars, which were filled with hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of camera equipment and my new hat at the side of the road. And took off across the frozen wilderness to a remote border post where there isn’t even a road. You get into Chile by fording a river.
We had to get a tractor there to pull them across. And it had to be a fast tractor because we knew our convoy was being chased by the thugs. And you try finding a fast tractor at 2am, in the middle of nowhere. All credit to producer Al Renton that he did it.
With the batteries dying in the convoy’s satellite phone, we lost contact and for six hours had no clue whether they had been caught. Whether our friends were alive or dead. That was a long night. I still haven’t had a chance to speak to any of them but I know they were held at the Argentine border from 3am, when they arrived, until 11am. Why? To allow the thugs to catch up? Who knows? All I really care about is that they are now in Chile and safe.
Tierra del Fuego is not listed as a problem for visitors by the Foreign & Commonwealth Office but there is no question in my mind that we walked into a trap.
I know mischievous newspapers in Britain have said it was all my fault because of the numberplate. But that wasn’t even mentioned down there because the plate in question had been replaced.
No. We were English (apart from one Aussie camera guy and a Scottish doctor) and that was a good enough reason for the state government to send 29 people into a night filled with rage and flying bricks.
“Look what we’ve done,” they will say at the next elections. “Sent the English packing.”
That is true. We got our arses kicked. But there is a glimmer of a silver lining in the whole sorry affair. The game of football would have been a good ending for our Christmas special. But we’ve been gifted something even better by the region’s politicians and their rent-a-mob cohorts.
I’d like to say “gotcha” at this point. But I won’t.
Argentinians denounce '200 years of lies'
Argentine officials and newspapers seized the opportunity of the row over Top Gear’s visit to bash the British in general and the BBC in particular. One official even used it to restate Argentina’s claim to the Falklands, writes Clare Pennington and George Arbuthnott.
Jeremy Clarkson insisted he was unaware that his Porsche’s H982 FKL numberplate could be taken as an allusion to the 1982 conflict and had it removed as soon as he was alerted by Twitter protests.
But Mariano Plecity, the regional government minister in Tierra del Fuego where the incident happened, demanded a written apology from Clarkson and the Top Gear production team, stressing the importance to the region of the Malvinas, as the Falklands are known in Argentina.
“You have to take into account that the Malvinas belong to Tierra del Fuego and the city of Ushuaia is the capital of the Malvinas,” he said. “The licence plate number on the car was a provocation and a very big offence in all of Tierra del Fuego.”
Plecity said the most important thing for the local government had been that Clarkson “leave without his life being threatened, because had he stayed longer, the response from society would have been much bigger” Clarin, the top-selling newspaper in Argentina, rejected Clarkson’s explanation that the use of the numberplate had not been deliberate.
It quoted a member of the war veterans’ association as saying the British had a long-running habit of being dishonest.
“They say that they did not want to hurt our feelings but they have been lying to us for 200 years,” said Osvaldo Hilliar.
The strength of anti-British feeling in Tierra del Fuego is illustrated by the twinning earlier this year of Rio Grande, the province’s industrial capital, with Algeciras, a Spanish city near the British territory of Gibraltar, to which Spain has long maintained a claim.
Diario Popular, a Buenos Aires newspaper, said Top Gear had a record of offending foreign countries. It claimed Clarkson had “taunted Asians” with a reference to a “slope” on a bridge in Burma, for which an apology was later made.
The Top Gear presenters also previously risked a riot by driving into redneck country in the Deep South of America with cars including a pick-up truck with the words “man-love rules OK” on it.
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Original post by Gwilym101
I thought this was bull****, especially as the same thing got levelled at hammond and May. Hammond because his number plate had 269 on it and this was "close" to the number of british casualties in the falklands war (255) and May because his number plate has 646 in it and this number was close to the number of argentinian casualties 649.

This was the argentinian people deliberately finding something about the british to take offence with, and somehow to them this justified trying to stone them whilst they got petrol.

I get the top gear lot aren't that PC or culturally sensitive but they weren't at fault here this time. Especially as when the BBC denied it, the argentinian response was, "They said they didn't want to upset anyone but we know the british have lied for the last 200 years"


Agreed, it's too subtle for them. If they really wanted to rile people up about the Falklands they would have been more up-front about it and more funny. The accusation that Hammond was gloating about his own country's casualties with a kinda-but-actually-not number plate is really in Alex Jones territory.
Let them bitch about it, if they want the Falklands that badly they're more than welcome to find whatever boats they have that can still actually float and have a go getting them back. No sympathy for idiots. TG did nothing wrong.
Original post by Chillaxer
Exactly. He can't even get it in an original way though. So many BBC cronies are so tired now. This could genuinely stoke the argies up again over this issue. What an idiot.
Good grief!

Top Gear is known worldwide and is broadcast in Argentina as far as I am aware. I am pretty certain the BBC would have obtained all necessary permits for filming and also customs clearance to take all necessary equipment into Argentina.

So there is little or no excuse for the Argentine authorities to not know of the kind of stunts the Top gear team might pull.

In fact this sounds almost as if the Argentine government 'hoped' they would pull knowing the backlash it would create.

If anything, the BBC and the Top Gear team have either been pretty naïve to not realise this was always going to be a risky political minefield, or hubris got the better and they went anyway.

Sympathy: None for either side.

Hilarity: 10/10
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Something more to do with the fact that Argentina defaulted on some debt a few months ago. KFC is great at stirring up the idiots to deflect from bad news.
To be honest. Even if it was intentional I don't really see why it's his fault that people reacted unreasonably aggressively to it.
Now I just want them to do a special on the Falkland Islands and rub it in as much as they can.
Original post by james22
Now I just want them to do a special on the Falkland Islands and rub it in as much as they can.
They could do a show with the Yellow Duckmarine amphibious boat named General C.F. Kirchner number plate H92 FKL and a race between an Astute class/Spearfish, Type 45/Merlin/Sea Eagle and Typhoon/Brimstone to sink it. All filmed with a backdrop of the Falkland Oil platform and British Marines mooning along the main deck to a sound track of Chas and Dave singing their venerable hit 'Gotcha'.
Original post by datpiff
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/oct/03/top-gear-argentina-jeremy-clarkson-bbc

"Jeremy Clarkson and the cast and crew of BBC2’s Top Gear are flying out of Argentina after protests from politicians and army veterans for using a car whose number plate apparently referred to the Falklands war.

The team used a Porsche with the registration number H982 FKL, which some people suggested could be seen to refer to the Falklands conflict which took place in 1982. The BBC has denied any intended reference, saying the car was bought by a member of the production team and was entirely coincidental".



Well I'm not actually sure it was done on purpose this time. You'd have thought with such a massive international audience they'd make sure things like number plates don't offend people.

Have Top Gear ever done a show in China?


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Top Gear is a scripted show.

Everything you see is planned out. There is no reality in reality TV. The argentinians are now saying the crew burned their own cars for dramatic effect. I believe them. The whole conflict is fake. no one ever threw rocks at them, there was no mob, and if there was, they were paid actors.
Original post by Made in the USA
Top Gear is a scripted show.

Everything you see is planned out. There is no reality in reality TV. The argentinians are now saying the crew burned their own cars for dramatic effect. I believe them. The whole conflict is fake. no one ever threw rocks at them, there was no mob, and if there was, they were paid actors.


They showed footage from YouTube of the "riots" so it did actually happen, besides, what kind of camera crew would be OK with having eggs and rocks thrown at their vehicles?
Original post by shawn_o1
They showed footage from YouTube of the "riots" so it did actually happen, besides, what kind of camera crew would be OK with having eggs and rocks thrown at their vehicles?


Nothing on top gear ever has been genuine. Remember the caravan fires? Everything has always been faked, why would this be any different. I remember when the Alabama gas station attack was scrutinized, it was loaded with so many continuity errors, you'd have to be a complete lunatic to believe it actually happened. I'm sure there will be plenty of continuity errors when people further scrutinize the video.
They actually got into a lot of trouble over staging the "alabama redneck gas station attack"

Lots of people in the USA investigated the "incident", including the local sheriff. All gas stations have 24 hour video and when the video was analyzed, it was determined that the attack never happened and was faked. It was created in the editing room post production.

The State Department decided to restrict their visas as a result of what happened. That's why when you see the muscle car episode, they keep repeating that the show had to be factual. It's because everyone is sick of their faked crap and those were the conditions they had to abide by when they returned to film future episodes.
Original post by Made in the USA
Top Gear is a scripted show.

Everything you see is planned out. There is no reality in reality TV. The argentinians are now saying the crew burned their own cars for dramatic effect. I believe them. The whole conflict is fake. no one ever threw rocks at them, there was no mob, and if there was, they were paid actors.


Wherever you heard that little titbit is lying out of their backside. The BBC have shown the pictures of the cars that the Argentineans have released from within their impound centre, entirely non burnt out. There was no claim at any point that they had been burnt out, either.

Of course things are going to be false if you're making them up on the spot. Which is all you're doing.

Rocks were definitely thrown.
Crowds were definitely present.
Topgear have exaggerated things in the past, that is true, but why would they do so in this case? Why would they lie about members of the crew being injured? That's the crew, remember, not the cast.
Why would the Argentinean government make formal complaints about the cars if it was fake?

Your accusations make no sense whatsoever.
Original post by datpiff
You'd have thought with such a massive international audience they'd make sure things like number plates don't offend people.


No-one noticed it. Just like no-one remembers the numberplates they used in Botswana, Bolivia, Polar and Vietnam. The only reason someone noticed was because JC tweeted a picture of the car to thousands of people so there'd be at least one person who would've noticed. And to be honest, if they just happened to have an offensive plate why should they change it? It's part of the car.

If he hadn't tweeted it and they drove into Ushuaia no members of the public would've noticed. A radio station down there was making up loads of rubbish about the crew and presenters to incite violence and a riot. The leader of the mob was the mayor of the next town up.

It is an insane coincidence but there's no evidence they could've deliberately chosen it. Firstly, it happened to be on a car JC wanted (at least, it just happened to not be on a crappy, boring non-supercar). Secondly, the dealership they visited only had two of these cars. Thirdly, the numbers are '982' that just happened to be on a Porche 928. Thirdly, the car's plate had been registered in 2001. Fourthly, to try and find a numberplate which references the Falklands war would be against the law, breaking the Data Protection Act. And it's clearly not a showplate.

It is simply not possible to do this deliberately. H982 FKL could easily have been H982 FLK or H982 FLD or FKD. Did they break the law? This numberplate could've been interpreted in hundreds of ways and there are hundreds of ways to interpret the Falklands war. Fact is, they didn't break the law. No-one would've noticed if it wasn't tweeted and bigoted propaganda was used to incite violence towards the only television production that has ever given Argentina a good image.

Then they managed to out-dumb their previous accusations with the BELL END plate by saying it was Top Gear calling Argentinians bellends. Since when has a numberplate like this ever referred to anyone but the driver?



Original post by Made in the USA
Nothing on top gear ever has been genuine. Remember the caravan fires? Everything has always been faked, why would this be any different.


Because it's physically impossible. What, do you think the tide by that lake wasn't genuine? Was the icy snow not genuine? Were the breakdowns not genuine as well?

They instigate things, they plan routes. They do little 'sketches' with things like burning an old caravan. Besides, no-one cares about the people offended by "Man loves rules".
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I'm confused why the instinctive response is to criticise the actions of Jeremy Clarkson, when it seems apparent that the real problem here is that a mob attacked innocent people. This is (on a different scale mind you) no different to the whole satanic verses affair with Salman Rushdie. Something offensive was written/done (which by the way is not a crime, and nor should it be) and a group of people offended by it threatened to use/ used violence against who they thought the perpetrators were.
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