IB Extended Essay ..deadline in months time... i'm screwed

Deepnight it sounds to me that u know alot about the IBO stuffs than anyone in the forum . anyway just wanted to know whether u have graduated or u r writing your exams in may just like me , damn u r really smart the IB thingy

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(P.S a rep wouldnt be so bad considering that IB thingies like extra points!!)

How is that silly?? It makes perfect sense to me.

If the school suspects you are cheating then they should not submit it to the IB. If they do and the IB then suspects the student cheated, the whole of the school's marks will be brought down (with emphasis on poor marking) as well as the student then potentially failing the diploma.

You don't need proof to suspect someone of cheating.. there are some very common features when you read a person's work that would shout cheating: strangely sophisticated vocabulary, abundance of uncited facts not taught in the syllabus, perfect grammar.. etc.etc.

With his post count?? Abbe doesn't have any rep power at the moment so effectively you'd have "Thanks for the help" in your rep section with a nice dark-green gem to cheer you up.

With his post count?? Abbe doesn't have any rep power at the moment so effectively you'd have "Thanks for the help" in your rep section with a nice dark-green gem to cheer you up.

What your saying basicaly is that you are guilty until proven innocent...this is realy a good ToK topic, and infact i could argue effectively using theory of knowledge why this is not a good policy.
Also, whats so wonderfull about the IB is that its externally assessed/moderated, which provides fairness. but if teachers and schools take matters of submitting and not submitting into their own hands this would mean, there's a loop whole for hatefull teachers and bad schools to screw you over...which trust me happens often.
Howevr, your opinion is well respected and i understand where your coming from, as many students are gaining an unfair advantage by submitting work that is not (completely) their own.

Firstly, YES you are guilty until proven innocent. You can use as many ToK ideas as you want here, but it will get you nowhere. If a school suspects you of cheating, they have to take action - this is because if they don't everyone else's marks could be affected (Utilitarianism, come on down).

Second point, the whole loop-hole thing you talk of. This will never be the case, and if it is you simply complain to another teacher, or if its the school, the IBO itself. Putting this simply, this should never happen - I have never heard of a case where a school has had a personal vendetta against a student. You might THINK they do but if they target you for cheating its because they have bloody good reason to do so.

If you can find where this "screwing over" happens often, I'd be intrigued to know because as you should know from ToK, where is the evidence to support this claim?

this is an open-ended argument, so you could argue as much as u want but still get no where.
But you can see you just conflicted your self here cause you cant complain to the IBO if the school is screwing u over this way cause it just granted the school full power over what to do using this contriversial policy.

Also, although this doesnt realy change the nature of the argument, if you refer to my previous post u'll see that IB assessment is criterion based more then its curved, this comes to affect greatly when it comes to essays and projects etc.. which means there is little affect of someone for example writing a PHD thesis for his EE on the rest of the people who've done a good job at secondary school level.

moreover, you are not considering both ends of the argument...what if the student didnt cheat??
I get the impression from your argument that if the teacher suspects u of cheating then you most likely did.
Also, having been to way too many schools for one life time, i've been exposed to many teachers who voluntarily or involuntarily (sub-coconsciously) discriminate between students.

First of all, congrats on your highly effective bold coding system... it realy helps understanding (Im not being sarchastic).

ok, seriously im getting kind of bored from this but basicaly this is the last comment on this issue;

If a power can be overuled it ceases to be a power.

Also this whole argument is based on that the school does not need any proof which i clearly stated from the begining. this has nothing to do if it effects the rest of the people.

Your argument is getting a little slopy there in the end...your just making to many assumptions.

Somebody please back me up on this... andi, where the hell are you?

I'd love to argue with till dawn but got, I have pile of homework waiting for me.