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Any coments on Communist Party??

Camford

The eye believes in what it sees. But, whether the growth is sustainable or will it eventually be proven to be bubble economy, we'll have to wait and see. Let's just hope nothing will go wrong in the next 20 years.

china is relatively undeveloped industry-wise for various historical and economic reasons, which i dont claim to have a higher than gcse understanding about, but china has a large amount of natural resources, growing investment from other countries and a stable future as a one party state. growth looks pretty sound.

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Mysticmin

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{ingnik']china is relatively undeveloped industry-wise for various historical and economic reasons, which i dont claim to have a higher than gcse understanding about, but china has a large amount of natural resources, growing investment from other countries and a stable future as a one party state. growth looks pretty sound.

Maybe I should go back and start a revolution. What's this bloke doing joining the communist party? If the students aren't liberal, there's not much scope for regime change.

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teamvillage

Sami_ThePeelite

one-party systemed Nationalism exists in China,

argh - makes me angry when they think they are communists by having 'a peoples' capitalists' and to have their market open to foreign investment

Reading one of the Chinese leader's explanation of how free-marketeering was a legitimate and proper step to true socialism was nothing short of hilarious!! wil try and dig it up from a dark corner of the internet...

EDIT: Damn can't seem to find it. never mind

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Camford

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teamvillage

Reading one of the Chinese leader's explanation of how free-marketeering was a legitimate and proper step to true socialism was nothing short of hilarious!! wil try and dig it up from a dark corner of the internet...

EDIT: Damn can't seem to find it. never mind

who's this "leader" you were talking about?

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teamvillage

Camford

who's this "leader" you were talking about?

Sorry, minds gone blank, when Jiang Zhumin (sp?) retired, it was one of the new leadership team justifying the economic policies

Sorry I can't be more useful!!

Reply 45

Fly By

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dont do it!! form your own party and challenge the communist party!! :biggrin:

Reply 46

iiikewldude

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Sami_ThePeelite

chinese communists are rightist-deviationists and are in fact not communist at all,

thats what i used to believe. I'm spending next year in communist china so i've read up on the subject a bit and in fact i believe i was slightly wrong. China is in a transitional period between communism and capitalism with parts of each contrasting system controlling different parts of chinese soceity and economy.

On on hand there is the joining of the WTO and the free market economy which is so noticable in china. In this sense china is far more ruthlessley capitalist than the west, with rich factory owners and appauling conditions for industrial workers, who have little protection under law. In this sense China is similar to Britian around the turn of the century.

On the other hand reminants of the communist system developed in the 1960s still do remain in place, although they will probably all have disapeared within the next 20-25 years or so. Take for example the social welafe system of the peoples republic of china. If any government worker is ever disabled they are guaranteed there job for life, no matter what. In fact the protection governments recieve that jobs within government are among the most highly desirable in china and are referred to as the 'golden rice bowl' i.e if you have a job in government your family will be offered security for life. This is probably why our friend here is joining the 'communist party' as high powered positions always go to party members.

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iiikewldude

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Fly By

dont do it!! form your own party and challenge the communist party!! :biggrin:

em i dunno about that, chinese have been imprisioned for discussing 'the possible benifits democracy would bring in china' on internet message boards before. In fact this chinese guy is taking a bit of a risk.

The chinese government will have software installed on his computer so that the police can check every single website he's been on. This software will ban many foreign press sites such as news.bbc.co.uk . He's taking a bit of a chance taking part in this discussion, i suppose if he doesn't critisise the party himself he should be ok.

Reply 48

Fly By

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they are only communists in name, if you hear them talk - they acutally say the are chinese socialists :rolleyes:

Reply 49

iiikewldude

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{ingnik']china is relatively undeveloped industry-wise for various historical and economic reasons, which i dont claim to have a higher than gcse understanding about.

i'd agree that china is socially and possibly even economically backwards compared to the west but industrailly wise, no.

China has a first world infrastructure and third world wages. This combination has led china to becoming the current second largest industry after the us. The level of production is staggering, one in every 3 pairs of shoes in the world or something are now made in the guandong province. It's also already one of the main producers of steel and many other manufactured goods such as eletronics.

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旗人天相

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Camford

Media does what it has to do.

Anyway, I'm not old enough remember all the things the Communist party did over the past 20 years. From what I've read on the internet, a lot, not just 2 or 3 articles, things weren't so bad after the Culture Revlution. There were a few good years of free speech and so on. Then the Tiananmen Square thing happend in 1989, (15th anniversery coming up) tanks rolled in and people got shot. Correct me if I'm wrong, that was, in effect, the end of democracy in China. Now, the government does a lot of things to stop people from reading foreighn news agencies' reports and so.

On one hand the media is probably only reporting one side of the story. But, the British press does have reputation for reporting bad things. Ah, well..

You seems an expert on Chinese history and revolution. :wink:

What you just said is quite right .The "tiananmen event" is a turning point of China's democratic progress.The "tiananmen event " made the Chinese government realized that democracy is an unobstructed political as well as historial trend.The world needs democracy and so do the Chinese ppl.

During the 1990s ,China's regime has improved a lot. Democracy is gainning more and more weight in political reformaition.Although the step of it is going slowly, we can't deny the fact that the Chinese ppl as well as the government are keeping their way ahead.

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