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age demographic tory time bomb?

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Reply 40
Original post by Bornblue
A bigger help would be to actually build more houses and give first preference to British citizens rather than letting foreign billionaires buy they and keep them empty.


Racist.
Reply 41
Original post by L i b
Yeah, I was referring more to Theresa May's tenure.

The problem with Cameron's period in office is that he didn't put his back into defending his achievements. The opposition managed to gain traction with the "this isn't a REAL Living Wage" shtick and I think the Help to Buy branding on several distinct policies made it more difficult to understand quite what was on offer.

So yeah, Cameron's team were poor salesmen when it came to dealing with young people; Theresa May's just didn't bother speaking to them at all.


Fair enough. May was only there what 10 months? 9?
Original post by Quady
Racist.

Nah patriotic.
Reply 43
Original post by Bornblue
Nah patriotic.


Tory racialist.
Reply 44
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
Shouldn't the liberal market have sorted the housing problem (if you even see ti a s a problem)? Doesn't the conservatives having to do something about the economy to get young voters back kind of undermine your politics? Or is a problem caused by democracy and universal suffrage giving none property owners the vote?


The housing market is one of the most controlled parts of our economy. If I had my way, we'd be opening up ****-tonnes of land for building and liberalising the planning permission process. I suspect over a decade, we could easily half the price of housing in London in real terms as unproductive land around it was built on.

But that, alas, is not a majority view in any party. A more liberalised market could take care of this, we just don't want it to.

As for your other question, I'm not sure why parties having to have policies that appeal to a broad range of voters undermines anyone's politics. It is an admission of failure in politics, certainly, but it doesn't really undermine anything.
Original post by Dot.Cotton
Once all the workshy little oiks grow up and find themselves in the real world, they'll be voting Tory. A manifesto of "free stuff" just doesn't cut it for the hard-working taxpayer.


If they should vote tory, why are you voting UKIP? :rolleyes:
I think there are two points i shall make in this thread..

1) The first is that is a long term threat rather than one quite as severe as some people suggest today. One of the reasons for the very high correlation in this election was that the Tories offered nobody anything substantial outside of Brexit. With a developed manifesto we'd have seen something similar but less stark so that crossover age will bounce around a bit by election although the trend is indeed higher.

2) I would say that the Conservative Party not being elected is less of a concern to me than the abandonment of positions like fiscal conservatism and lower tax and spend. The Tories have always got elected again because they adapt and would do so again in this event. The bigger problem is that without people owning large assets, these people are less likely to support neoclassical positions on the issues of the day and hence we may a much more left wing Tory party.

Remember that already we have passed peak Thatcher (there's a lot of suggestion that the 10 and 15 intake were less economically liberal than the 01/05 intake) and that more than 60% of MP's elected May their leader, a woman who is at heart the most left wing Tory since Heath. If falling home ownership pulls the electorate to the left then the Tories will adapt to that but probably by abandoning their economically liberal positions.
Original post by Rakas21
I think there are two points i shall make in this thread..

1) The first is that is a long term threat rather than one quite as severe as some people suggest today. One of the reasons for the very high correlation in this election was that the Tories offered nobody anything substantial outside of Brexit. With a developed manifesto we'd have seen something similar but less stark so that crossover age will bounce around a bit by election although the trend is indeed higher.

2) I would say that the Conservative Party not being elected is less of a concern to me than the abandonment of positions like fiscal conservatism and lower tax and spend. The Tories have always got elected again because they adapt and would do so again in this event. The bigger problem is that without people owning large assets, these people are less likely to support neoclassical positions on the issues of the day and hence we may a much more left wing Tory party.

Remember that already we have passed peak Thatcher (there's a lot of suggestion that the 10 and 15 intake were less economically liberal than the 01/05 intake) and that more than 60% of MP's elected May their leader, a woman who is at heart the most left wing Tory since Heath. If falling home ownership pulls the electorate to the left then the Tories will adapt to that but probably by abandoning their economically liberal positions.


The Tories risk becoming a one issue Party - Brexit.

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