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Not dating anyone of a certain race: preference or persecution?

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Original post by LotusFlowerm
Everyone is racist because we have natural inbuilt preferences which we then use to discriminate with in order to choose the best mate from your in group ethnicity. It is just natural that every race largely speaking is more attracted to the opposite sex of the same ethnicity. Even putting ethnicity aside people are attracted to people who look similar to them in regard to facial features and hair colour.


Well you are not explaining anything, you are simply using human natural as an escape of everything you cannot explain.

Original post by cat_mac
In the cases where people say “i’m not racist, but I would never be with an X person” is this acceptable? Or is it racism? Do you feel pressure from family to date within your own race? (These are not my views on dating, but a conversation i’m interested in having as I’ve heard of this happening in a lot of different families.)


To put it simply here, it is our social environment(culture, social custom) affect us to establish a standard of what is right or wrong. Because we realize if we do not follow the unwritten rules of our surrounding social environment(social contract), we will be published by people around us(bullying, degrade and denounce by the others). Thus, if the local environment disgrace certain races. A person who belongs to the dominant race will find it hard to date that particular race; a person who belongs to the minority race will find it hard to date the dominant race.

Aesthetic philosophy, Media study, and gender studies may tell you it is the mass media affect our moral sense and standard of beauty. But I would say our surrounding enthronement should provide a larger effect on our mindset, unless one does not socialize at all and completely rely mass media as the only source of information.

Another interesting question is that why are we affected by local culture so much. Psychologically, human needs to fulfill certain task when we grow up. For example during our teenage life, we tend to endeavour to find like-minded people as friends, because we want to find our social role and self identity in our social circle. Another important point is that, love and security is essential needs to establish self-esteem, this is why we try to follow the majority so as to be accepted by the other, and feel the love and security from the others.

And most importantly, to answer your question, our social environment teaches us the standard of love and dating.
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Original post by ParkHyungSuk
No lol but 'I don't date women because they're all b*tchy' is. Not dating them because you're attracted to men is simply preference.


But how is “I don’t want to date that person because she’s a girl” different to “I don’t want to date that person because she’s Chinese”
Reply 22
Original post by Trinculo
Nah, it's nonsense. The same rationale is not acceptable for every other form of race relations. It would be racist in the extreme to say that you do not permit people from the sub-continent in your premises because you don't like the smell of curry, or you find the way they talk to be irritating.


Yeah because the curry and talking thing is an assumption/stereo type. What about my comment was nonsense? Do you disagree with disliking a physical feature? (Which isn’t my opinion at all by the way, and i’m not trying to fight, just understand)
Original post by cat_mac
Yeah because the curry and talking thing is an assumption/stereo type. What about my comment was nonsense? Do you disagree with disliking a physical feature? (Which isn’t my opinion at all by the way, and i’m not trying to fight, just understand)


I've seen that guys posts before and it's mostly just trolling far-right nonsense tbh
Reply 24
Original post by Anna1029
By that logic, wouldn’t “I only date males because I have a preference” be sexist?:smile:


No because that’s sexuality, not really a preference. If it was “I only date males because women are annoying and ugly” it’d be sexist, because of the assumption on women rather than interest in men.
It's all to do with convenience and your environment...IMO.
Original post by Anna1029
But how is “I don’t want to date that person because she’s a girl” different to “I don’t want to date that person because she’s Chinese”


I don't think you understood what I meant:

If a woman was to say she doesn't like women because she is physically attracted to men then that is not sexist, if she was to say she doesn't like women because all women are b*itchy then that is sexist.

In a similar way, if someone was to say they are not attracted to east asian people because they commonly have monolid eyes and that is not something they are physically attracted to, that is not racist. If they said it was because all east asians are 'whiny and annoying' then that is racist.

In the end lol it depends.
Reply 27
Original post by ParkHyungSuk
I've seen that guys posts before and it's mostly just trolling far-right nonsense tbh


Oh okay good because that made 0 sense to me 😂
Original post by cat_mac
Oh okay good because that made 0 sense to me 😂


haha that essay was written for nothing then I guess
Original post by cat_mac
Yeah because the curry and talking thing is an assumption/stereo type. What about my comment was nonsense? Do you disagree with disliking a physical feature? (Which isn’t my opinion at all by the way, and i’m not trying to fight, just understand)


Not your comment, the one you were replying to.

I don't agree or disagree with liking a particular feature or not. What I'm saying is that having a race preference in terms of relationships is racism, and that having a preference for a particular feature that is more common in a particular ethnic group is indirect racial discrimination - but I also think that these things are completely fair and should not be worried about or thought about too much because the consequences would be so dire for society.
Original post by KeirCKF
Well you are not explaining anything, you are simply using human natural as an escape of everything you cannot explain.



To put it simply here, it is our social environment(culture, social custom) affect us to establish a standard of what is right or wrong. Because we realize if we do not follow the unwritten rules of our surrounding social environment(social contract), we will be published by people around us(bullying, degrade and denounce by the others). Thus, if the local environment disgrace certain races. A person who belongs to the dominant race will find it hard to date that particular race; a person who belongs to the minority race will find it hard to date the dominant race.

Aesthetic philosophy, Media study, and gender studies may tell you it is the mass media affect our moral sense and standard of beauty. But I would say our surrounding enthronement should provide a larger effect on our mindset, unless one does not socialize at all and completely rely mass media as the only source of information.

Another interesting question is that why are we affected by local culture so much. Psychologically, human needs to fulfill certain task when we grow up. For example during our teenage life, we tend to endeavour to find like-minded people as friends, because we want to find our social role and self identity in our social circle. Another important point is that, love and security is essential needs to establish self-esteem, this is why we try to follow the majority so as to be accepted by the other, and feel the love and security from the others.

And most importantly, to answer your question, our social environment teaches us the standard of love and dating.

That is an explanation not an escape. It accurately explains why on average people of the same race are more attracted to people from their own race than they are of others. Not everything is the cause of our environment like the sociological pseudo-intellectuals like us to believe. You have taken sociology I take it?
Reply 31
I think it's preference. For example, I'm usually not attracted by Asians, but I would still date one if I liked him. I would say it's generalisation of preferences but definitely not racism.
Original post by ANM775


Males generally are under less pressure from families to date within their race, parents seem to object more when their daughters date interracially.


This has to do with power and the suppression of women in a patriarchal society, and also a form of racism, both of which are unacceptable. The rationale is that it is OK for 'us' to take 'their' women, but not if 'they' take 'ours'.

I have no objection if someone finds a certain skin colour tone unattractive sexually, or disagree with certain cultural traits, on a personal level. Sexual preferences are very personal, but to try and pressure others not to engage in interracial relationships based on personal preferences is a form of racism and simply unacceptable.

Read an article as part of my PhD research proposal, in which the author attempted to defend the right of South Asian parents to forbid their daughters (and its mostly daughters) in engaging in interracial relationships, claiming that it is not racism for all sort of contrived reasons. On the contrary, it most certainly is a form of racism, and just as bad as white parents doing the same. It is also a form of misogyny, however they might want to dress it up.
personally i dont find guys of my own race attractive
persecution lol
Everyone i know has fancied someone of a different race. I challenge anyone on the planet to not find another person from a different race attractive. Literally impossible. Just look in the media. I'm a girl and have found men of different races attractive at least once. People are attracted to attractive people. That's the overriding factor. If you refuse to date anyone from another race then you're just being ignorant/small minded/racist.
If you feel you've the right to claim any part of me I see you are being below human, subhuman.
I wouldn't say it's racist, but I think most of our attractions have reasoning behind them we don't think about. I personally prefer chubbier girls, and I know probably deep down that's because I'm chubby too! Maybe the same applies for skin tone for people? Or maybe socialisation. I don't think it's racist unless it's on purpose but I do think it's worth thinking about why your attraction to certain races is there
Reply 38
Original post by chaotic1328
This has to do with power and the suppression of women in a patriarchal society, and also a form of racism, both of which are unacceptable. The rationale is that it is OK for 'us' to take 'their' women, but not if 'they' take 'ours'.




I agree with you there.

I notice cultures where feminism is much less prominent tend to be the cultures where the girls are pressured the most to date within their race.

I've never been a fan of feminism but there are a small amount of things about it that I'm not going to complain about.
ig people might avoid dating some races as with it may come religious issues or family issues that can be hard to deal with.

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