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Not dating anyone of a certain race: preference or persecution?

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Nothing racist about having a preference at all
Original post by cat_mac
No because that’s sexuality, not really a preference. If it was “I only date males because women are annoying and ugly” it’d be sexist, because of the assumption on women rather than interest in men.


Original post by ParkHyungSuk
I don't think you understood what I meant:

If a woman was to say she doesn't like women because she is physically attracted to men then that is not sexist, if she was to say she doesn't like women because all women are b*itchy then that is sexist.

In a similar way, if someone was to say they are not attracted to east asian people because they commonly have monolid eyes and that is not something they are physically attracted to, that is not racist. If they said it was because all east asians are 'whiny and annoying' then that is racist.

In the end lol it depends.


Ok, ok, I see your point :smile:
Original post by cat_mac
In the cases where people say “i’m not racist, but I would never be with an X person” is this acceptable? Or is it racism? Do you feel pressure from family to date within your own race?

(These are not my views on dating, but a conversation i’m interested in having as I’ve heard of this happening in a lot of different families.)


It's not called racism, it's called personal preference. I'm sure you can understand that any rational person would not like to date a middle-eastern because of the weak genes they possess, as a consequence of their tendency to interbreed.
Original post by FallaciousRacism
It's not called racism, it's called personal preference. I'm sure you can understand that any rational person would not like to date a middle-eastern because of the weak genes they possess, as a consequence of their tendency to interbreed.


Now this IS fu*king racism"! Why are people here allowed to get away with such drivel?

Please cite your evidence that people from the middle-east are genetically deficient compared with the rest of the human population, otherwise you are just a racist idiot.
Original post by chaotic1328
Now this IS fu*king racism"! Why are people here allowed to get away with such drivel?

Please cite your evidence that people from the middle-east are genetically deficient compared with the rest of the human population, otherwise you are just a racist idiot.


Here we go my friend! Evidence fresh from New York Times, a liberal newspaper!
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/01/world/saudi-arabia-awakes-to-the-perils-of-inbreeding.html

If that doesn't quench your thirst, how about a wikipedia article!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_in_the_Middle_East

Muslims INTERBREED and they love it.
Original post by iodo345
Nothing racist about having a preference at all


Cool. How about if you prefer to only have white friends, or prefer to only have white people work for you?
You can't force anyone to date anyone, guilt-tripping someone because of race is wrong but I don't see it working on anyone. If someone doesn't want to do date someone because of their race they should have the courtesy to not explicitly say that is the reason why.

Race comes with culture and culture comes with baggage. A lot of interracial marriages don't endure but that doesn't mean they never do. We know the extent to which marriage in general has become bad for longevity in the West.
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Original post by fairyaossi
I wouldn't say it's racist, but I think most of our attractions have reasoning behind them we don't think about. I personally prefer chubbier girls, and I know probably deep down that's because I'm chubby too! Maybe the same applies for skin tone for people? Or maybe socialisation. I don't think it's racist unless it's on purpose but I do think it's worth thinking about why your attraction to certain races is there


But as said before, there are certain people who are just not willing to even consider the possiblity of someone of "X" race... I'll give you my own experience:-

I'm black and I can be chatting to girls etc. online... I have good banter, rapport etc and it seems like there's a real connection. However, as soon as they find out I'm black, often they cut all contact (If I'm lucky, I'll get a polite brush-off... but quite often it's like they've dropped off the face of the earth. ) This happens very often (it's even happened on this board... hence why I'm posting this anonymously, as I don't wish to victimise those concerend). IMHO, given that we've previously built up some kind of bond, the very least they could do was request a face pic & if they decide I don't make the "cut" (or whatever) then fair enough.

For the record, I don't mention my ethnicity not because I'm ashamed of it,.. it's more as I don't think it should be an issue. As Martin Luther King once said, A man should be judged by his actions, not his skin colour
Original post by Trinculo
Cool. How about if you prefer to only have white friends, or prefer to only have white people work for you?


I suppose choosing only not be friends with somebody because they aren't white is racist. Same if a black person excluded a white person just because of skin colour.

I think a lot of people make friends based on what is culturally similar to them hence why Asians prefer to make friends with asians and Whites prefer to with whites and there is some level of mixing as well so I don't think that is racist.

I think the preference of having only a certain colour work for you is racist as you should really judge somebody on their ability to do the job not on their ethnicity. It would be unfair if an employer only choose somebody just because of their race and not their potential to do the job.
Original post by FallaciousRacism
Here we go my friend! Evidence fresh from New York Times, a liberal newspaper!
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/01/world/saudi-arabia-awakes-to-the-perils-of-inbreeding.html

If that doesn't quench your thirst, how about a wikipedia article!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_in_the_Middle_East

Muslims INTERBREED and they love it.


You are basing your drivel on a very small number of anecdotal cases? How very convenient!

The references given in the Wiki article is bordering on the absurd. Patei, with no date or the name of the paper, nor the publishers. There is a reason why Wiki is not used as acceptable references in academic work.

Finally, you have cited no evidence whatsoever that all, or most, people in the middle-east are genetically 'weaker'. Please do so.
Original post by Hirsty97
You can't force anyone to date anyone, guilt-tripping someone because of race is wrong but I don't see it working on anyone. If someone doesn't want to do date someone because of their race they should have the courtesy to not explicitly say that is the reason why.

Race comes with culture and culture comes with baggage. A lot of interracial marriages don't endure but that doesn't mean they never do. We know the extent to which marriage in general has become bad for longevity in the West.


Race is not necessarily cultural, there is a difference between the two.
For me it's just the case of not knowing better. For the past 20 years of my life I've lived in a country with just one race and now have moved to the UK where I'm exposed to many different people. At first it was weird and I didn't find anyone apart from guys my race attractive (dating wise) but now that I've been around for a bit and gotten used to it, I find lots of different people attractive and it has nothing to do with a skin colour. And months ago when this wasn't the case - it's genuinely because I didn't know any better not because of some other agenda.
Original post by chaotic1328
Race is not necessarily cultural, there is a difference between the two.


Obviously but in general they are tied together.
Original post by iodo345
I suppose choosing only not be friends with somebody because they aren't white is racist. Same if a black person excluded a white person just because of skin colour.

I think a lot of people make friends based on what is culturally similar to them hence why Asians prefer to make friends with asians and Whites prefer to with whites and there is some level of mixing as well so I don't think that is racist.

I think the preference of having only a certain colour work for you is racist as you should really judge somebody on their ability to do the job not on their ethnicity. It would be unfair if an employer only choose somebody just because of their race and not their potential to do the job.


There's no reason to suppose a black woman can't be a perfectly reasonable girlfriend or a Chinese dude can't be a perfectly reasonable boyfriend. They can carry out that role perfectly well.

My point is that I think that most people know it's racism, but rather than excuse it - like to redefine it instead.

Personally, I excuse it. Otherwise the results can become absurd or obscene.
Having dating preferences is acceptable. I am an Oriental guy who only likes white girls. However I know that most white girls never go for Oriental guys. Neither is racist.
Original post by Trinculo
Cool. How about if you prefer to only have white friends, or prefer to only have white people work for you?


How about you only have friends with ginger hair, a fat arse and who like to be called naughty names when tied up?

People tend to be more selective and individual when it comes to sexual attraction versus choosing who they're going to the pub with.
Original post by Notorious_B.I.G.
How about you only have friends with ginger hair, a fat arse and who like to be called naughty names when tied up?

People tend to be more selective and individual when it comes to sexual attraction versus choosing who they're going to the pub with.


I'm not saying any of this isn't true. Being more selective doesn't make it less discriminatory. It makes it moreso.
Original post by Trinculo
I'm not saying any of this isn't true. Being more selective doesn't make it less discriminatory. It makes it moreso.


But the point is that someone who doesn't date black women is not being more selective; he is being as selective as anyone else.

The question is "are the criteria he is looking at to determine his sexual attraction towards people racist in nature?" If he likes impressionable women who have no character and are incredibly subservient, and he finds that all other races tick that box but black, that would not amount to racist criteria. There needs to be something traditionally offensive about it: i.e. the person believes that a particular race of women is inferior in terms of work ethic, trustworthiness or intellect. Maybe you could include beauty, i.e. "All Mongolian lasses are fugly" is likely racist.

However, if you said that you think Asian women are beautiful, intelligent, strong work ethic, amazing personalities ... but they simply don't make your ding-dong hard, I do not think that is traditionally offensive and thereby racist.
Original post by Trinculo


My point is that I think that most people know it's racism, but rather than excuse it - like to redefine it instead.


Racism is to do with groups of people thinking in a certain way because of historical and social factors, sexual atttaction is completely different and is not a thinking thing that you can control.
Original post by Mr Smurf
Having dating preferences is acceptable. I am an Oriental guy who only likes white girls. However I know that most white girls never go for Oriental guys. Neither is racist.


Don't ever change, dude.

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