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    (Original post by Science99999)
    My friend's father earns £1million as a private consultant to an arab
    Well that's different isn't it. If any consultant doctor earns £1million in this country there would be a massive outcry. See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018...-gap-revealed/

    One doctor in the country earned £740k, but the average male consultant (higher-earning gender) "only" earned £127k / year.

    (Original post by Chief Wiggum)
    I presumed when that person said "26 years experience", he meant in total as a doctor, rather than as a consultant?
    Well we can work it out. If he is 50 years old, and we assume he became a doctor at 23 years old, then he would have had 27 years as a doctor (as you have deduced). Then he would have been a consultant for about 15-20 years?

    If, even after 14 years a consultant would earn £97k/year, with CEA on top there is no way he wouldn't be on >£100k unless he is doing part time.
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    (Original post by Xopher_)
    Help the environment by using an electric car, being powered by a coal power plant, lol.
    Doesn't need to be powered by a coal plant does it? Why aren't we increasing coal power plants instead of decreasing then? Never knew Electricity wasn't renewable lol
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    (Original post by ecolier)
    Well that's different isn't it. If any consultant doctor earns £1million in this country there would be a massive outcry. See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018...-gap-revealed/

    One doctor in the country earned £740k, but the average male consultant (higher-earning gender) "only" earned £127k / year.
    That is just NHS though. Thankfully would be a good bit higher with private practice.

    But yeah, doctors definitely aren't as rich as others seem to think (sadly ).


    Well we can work it out. If he is 50 years old, and we assume he became a doctor at 23 years old, then he would have had 27 years as a doctor (as you have deduced). Then he would have been a consultant for about 15-20 years?

    If, even after 14 years a consultant would earn £97k/year, with CEA on top there is no way he wouldn't be on >£100k unless he is doing part time.
    Yeah, £90000 does seem rather low. Still, perhaps with no private practice and no clinical excellence awards, that would be roughly accurate? I don't know how common such clinical excellence awards are.
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    (Original post by ecolier)
    I think he must be working part-time (perhaps teaching / research?). The NHS pay scale is easily available online and it applies to the whole of the UK.
    Well he lectures but a lot of consultants in a university hospital do? Part of the job right?
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    I'd stick to buses and trains. Dont want to be boasting and showing off how much money I am earning with a car
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    (Original post by Chief Wiggum)
    That is just NHS though. Thankfully would be a good bit higher with private practice.

    But yeah, doctors definitely aren't as rich as others seem to think (sadly ).

    He did a six year course. I assume he didn't take a gap year but the lowest would be 24. That's why I said 26 years



    Yeah, £90000 does seem rather low. Still, perhaps with no private practice and no clinical excellence awards, that would be roughly accurate? I don't know how common such clinical excellence awards are.
    He did a six year course since he has an MA. I assume he didn't take a gap year but the lowest would be 24. That's why I said 26 years.
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    (Original post by Chief Wiggum)
    ...Yeah, £90000 does seem rather low. Still, perhaps with no private practice and no clinical excellence awards, that would be roughly accurate? I don't know how common such clinical excellence awards are.
    They are common, especially for fairly experienced (>10 years) consultants like Kyber's dad. And as a surgeon? There's very little reason to believe he wouldn't have applied for a CEA. But then of course we don't know the full story.

    (Original post by Kyber Ninja)
    Well he lectures but a lot of consultants in a university hospital do? Part of the job right?
    Yes it is! No extra pay (but the time is taken out of your job plan).
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    (Original post by ecolier)
    I am half way to being a consultant and I do not have anywhere near enough money to afford any of the vehicles mentioned in this thread :cry:
    Hey I'm just curious would you be happy to say how much you earn roughly and how old you are and what type of consultant you'd like to be? I'm just interested in how much you'd earn at that stage.
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    (Original post by HeadHoncho)
    Benz GLE coupe or jaguar f type, probably the f type
    I've had one of those. I got more attention in it than any other car I've driven. Good for the ego, but just a bit noisy, even with the dynamic exhaust option switched off.
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    (Original post by peeked)
    Hey I'm just curious would you be happy to say how much you earn roughly and how old you are and what type of consultant you'd like to be? I'm just interested in how much you'd earn at that stage.
    I am a neurology registrar - not a consultant yet! Don't really want to reveal any more The pay scale is available online - but feel free to ask me what salary at what age!

    For example (assuming you entered medical school aged 18, 5 year medical course, no failure / gap years etc)
    FY1 £26614 / year (age 23)
    FY2 £30805 / year (age 24)
    CT1-CT2 £36461 / year (age 25-26)
    ST3-ST7 £46208 / year (age 27-31)
    This is excluding on-call supplements
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    (Original post by ecolier)
    They are common, especially for fairly experienced (>10 years) consultants like Kyber's dad. And as a surgeon? There's very little reason to believe he wouldn't have applied for a CEA. But then of course we don't know the full story.



    Yes it is! No extra pay (but the time is taken out of your job plan).
    Daddy Kyber didn't have a great upbringing and is socialist and has a tendency to be hostile to his buds who do private work and take money filled schemes.

    If you do an academic degree do you have to drop out or can you still work btw?

    Also, I feel like my dad is becoming really identifiable so I'm just gonna stop now
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    (Original post by ecolier)
    I am a neurology registrar - not a consultant yet! Don't really want to reveal any more The pay scale is available online - but feel free to ask me what salary at what age!
    Oh okay np, so how much would you say a 27 year old would earn and how much would like 35 year old earn?
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    (Original post by Kyber Ninja)
    Daddy Kyber didn't have a great upbringing and is socialist and has a tendency to be hostile to his buds who do private work and take money filled schemes.

    If you do an MD do you have to drop out or can you still work btw?

    Good for your dad!

    You will have to take time out of training. If you did it during a training programme and you agreed it with with Training Programme Director (TPD) then they will save your "spot" in the training ladder for you, but there is no pay (obviously) when you are not working.

    (Original post by peeked)
    Oh okay np, so how much would you say a 27 year old would earn and how much would like 35 year old earn?
    Read above, but copied again here for your information -

    For example (assuming you entered medical school aged 18, 5 year medical course, no failure / gap years etc)
    FY1 £26614 / year (age 23)
    FY2 £30805 / year (age 24)
    CT1-CT2 £36461 / year (age 25-26)
    ST3-ST7 £46208 / year (age 27-31)
    This is excluding on-call supplements

    Consultants start on £76761 / year (~ age 32)
    raising to £86369 / year after 5 years (~ age 37)
    then £92078 / year after 9 years (~ age 41)
    £97787 / year after 14 years (~ age 46)
    £103490 / year after 19 years (~ age 51+)
    This is before any Clinical Excellence Awards.
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    (Original post by Science99999)
    Medics should be entitled to luxury, we establish this economy and make society running. We should be praised and worshipped not degraded by the politicians in white hall.

    A health secretary should not be a poxy failed politcian who studied PPE at Magdallen college, Oxford. In fact, it should be an individual with a medical background, and understands the mechansms of the NHS! Then the NHS would be saved.

    Medics should not pay student debt, if they are enrolled in the NHS, and should pay considerably less for tutition fees. Universities, in addition, should provide more places and reduce difficulty of admission processes.
    Please tell me who would want to go to medical/nursing school so they can work as a secretary? People go into healthcare because they want to work with patients, not be stuck doing admin.

    The admission process is so difficult, because you want good doctors, not just anyone. I agree there should be more spaces, but medical training is much more complex than just squeezing people into a lecture hall.
    Idk how many students you think medical schools should have, but mine has about 300 and distributing us all across different hospitals so that there is enough staff to look after us and so that everyone gets roughly similar experience seems to be quite a challenge for the uni
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    (Original post by ecolier)
    Good for your dad!

    You will have to take time out of training. If you did it during a training programme and you agreed it with with Training Programme Director (TPD) then they will save your "spot" in the training ladder for you, but there is no pay (obviously) when you are not working.



    Read above, but copied again here for your information -

    For example (assuming you entered medical school aged 18, 5 year medical course, no failure / gap years etc)
    FY1 £26614 / year (age 23)
    FY2 £30805 / year (age 24)
    CT1-CT2 £36461 / year (age 25-26)
    ST3-ST7 £46208 / year (age 27-31)
    This is excluding on-call supplements
    £46k at 27 isn't too bad. I don't really know what CT1/2 are or what ST3-7 is though. And are those minumins/starting salaries?
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    (Original post by peeked)
    £46k at 27 isn't too bad. I don't really know what CT1/2 are or what ST3-7 is though. And are those minumins/starting salaries?
    No, that's just the name of the grades of the doctor. That's your grade for that year, and your pay for that year.

    That is the salary - there is no minimum / maximum (there used to be on the old contract). So you will be paid the same for 2 years (CT1 - CT2) and for 5 years (ST3 - ST7) if you are working the same intensity.
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    (Original post by ecolier)
    No, that's just the name of the grades of the doctor. That's your grade for that year, and your pay for that year.

    That is the salary - there is no minimum / maximum (there used to be on the old contract). So you will be paid the same for 2 years (CT1 - CT2) and for 5 years (ST3 - ST7) if you are working the same intensity.
    Oh okay, so are there anyways to get bonuses or increases in the salary? Like if you work longer? Also what are 'Clinical excellence awards'? How many ways are there of increasing the salary? Sorry for being annoying btw
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    To be honest, if i see someone who has spent many thousands on a car - for, what, slightly smoother suspension? Slightly larger seats? - then i immediately recognise that their priorities are very different to mine and my opinion of them drops significantly.

    My dream car is something that is small and fuel efficient so that it is good for the environment and easy to park.
 
 
 
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