Tommy Robinson invited to palace of Westminster

Tommy is a legend and a hero. Unfortunately the grave mistake of starting out as the EDL, which he later realized was not the solution and left, means he will never get rid of that far-right stigma, or be listened to by the other side. And he may have been careless at times talking about all Muslims, when really he means the ideology of Islam and not Muslims themselves, and gave people who have the knives out the kind of ammo they need to simply repeat the word 'hate' every time he says anything.

The truth is on Tommy's side, but saying that, the response to the problematic aspects of Islam has often bordered on moronic and ridiculous, rather than sensible, fair, genuine and honest. Such as Britain first walking around Muslim areas with crosses and union-jacks and stuff of that ilk. I can see where the left come from when they see most of the rhetoric from people with concerns about what Islam has done to this country and they violence that has been done in its name in just this country alone.

You can't treat all Muslims like **** and ridicule them and expect to get a fair dialogue. However, even the most respectful, sincere approaches don't work either.

The lunatic leftist ideology that has become dominant in society simply will not permit any depiction of Islam other than being a religion of peace. And many Muslims believe their religion is the perfect word of God and shouldn't be allowed to ever be criticised, with many claiming it is a religion of peace also. (Mods, I urge not to remove this post just because I pointed that fact out).

We just have to learn to live with the fact Leftist long-game of the 'long march through the institutions' has been the most success political coup ever and they have succeeded in destroying traditional British cultural values like freedom of expression, rationalism, logic, empiricism, real liberal tolerance and intellectual freedom and replacing it with repressive, neo-marxist, totalitarian ideologies like political correctness and all the rest, and try to deal with the cultural destruction that comes with it.

No one is going to change that situation.

I haven't mentioned left wing ideology once. I am indeed very critical of parts of it and its supporters as I of those on the right. I just think people such as yourself are very similar to those on the left you go on about all the time in so many ways.

You know nothing about me mate. You simply see I hold a special dislike and concern with today's left, and that is for many, many reasons I would go into but it would just be over your head. I've only even been Left-Wing before going beyond any form of ideology or allegiance to one group of thought or another. I believe there is a things called objective, factual reality and things that are actual true and have a basis in reality and things that are simple invented in the minds of people, mental constructs and ideas about the way life it that don't have a basis, in concrete, factual reality. In 2018, with all the advancements in science and knowledge about the planet we live, I think we should all live in reality.

But no, like throughout history, most people choose to believe absolute ******** that has no basis in reality. Like religions or ideologies like Nazi, Fascism and Marxism. Nazism and Fascism are dead, thankfully. Unfortunately Marxist expanded and rebranded itself and is, along with Globalism, the secular state religion in the West. It just eschews any suggestion it is Marxism or some form of it, and most leftists don't even know where their ideology comes from and it;s history, just blind followers of 1984 propaganda.

I'm tired of this subject, anyway. If you enjoy this 1984 society we have become, cool. I don't.

What a perfect speech. Glad to see people who think alike as me. Especially if you're young. Too many youngsters being caught on the path of 'blame tories for everything' when it was their Labour lover who forced us into debt by increasing our public services to a length which we couldn't afford then selling off our assets like Gold at ridiculously low prices. But, blame Tories for trying to cut back out deficit.

The left is a laughing stock. - not saying everyone who is against the Tories is a lefty, thats a seperate statement. Promoting wearing the Hijab whilst the women who are forced to and dont are jailed in Iran, but, you know so much self empowerment from a bloody head scarf.

You know nothing about me mate. You simply see I hold a special dislike and concern with today's left, and that is for many, many reasons I would go into but it would just be over your head. I've only even been Left-Wing before going beyond any form of ideology or allegiance to one group of thought or another. I believe there is a things called objective, factual reality and things that are actual true and have a basis in reality and things that are simple invented in the minds of people, mental constructs and ideas about the way life it that don't have a basis, in concrete, factual reality. In 2018, with all the advancements in science and knowledge about the planet we live, I think we should all live in reality.

But no, like throughout history, most people choose to believe absolute ******** that has no basis in reality. Like religions or ideologies like Nazi, Fascism and Marxism. Nazism and Fascism are dead, thankfully. Unfortunately Marxist expanded and rebranded itself and is, along with Globalism, the secular state religion in the West. It just eschews any suggestion it is Marxism or some form of it, and most leftists don't even know where their ideology comes from and it;s history, just blind followers of 1984 propaganda.

I'm tired of this subject, anyway. If you enjoy this 1984 society we have become, cool. I don't.

The paranoia is quite something.

It's over your head little man. I told you it would be. You'd have to actually study the history of the 20th and 21th century intently and understand the political forces that have shaped the world and got us where we are today. You haven't got the intellectual curious or capacity to study for yourself or do that. Keep your head firmly up your arse. Lightweight.

Thanks mate. I mean I grew up in a labour environment and picked up those anti-tory sentiments by osmosis myself. I was delighted when New Labour got in. They played the propaganda game beautifully, using the cool Britannia thing and getting Noel into Downing Street was a master stroke. To me labour were cool and the good guys and the tories evil. And I think most youngsters have that belief.

I lived through what they done thought and seen the reality of their belief in mass migration and utter contempt for the right. Even having an open door policy just to spite the Right/. Britain had a perfect balance of immigration and great mix as far as I was concerned in the 90's. None of the problems we had now after Jack Straw flooded the country and which continues to happen.

Today's Leftism is a different form of Leftism, based on the philosophies of Marxist radicals and their penchant for creating their own terminology and dogmas and engaging in propaganda and mental warfare.

Leftist political radicals seized control of uni's decades ago, and there were books in the 70's I believe, such the Closing of the American Mind, talking about the things we see so frequently on campuses today. I remember it since childhood myself, all the attempts at indoctrination and the little projects that felt forced and unnatural and obviously trying to get you to think in a certain way.

But I rejected it, like most people. It was really only happening now and then at school, and the wider culture was different, music was still great, not many people gave a **** about politics. There was not wall to tv news media propaganda, the other media, political TV shows with the 4 leftists to the one dissenting voice set-up and a bias, hostile jeering crowd, no politically correct comedians like Russell Brand, Russell Howard, the Mash report all acting as organs of state propaganda pumping the same noxious, smarmy, disingenuous abuse, smears, ridicule, no Hollywood lovies and their stupid right on speeches, no social media campaigns and witch hunts, losing your job and trial by public for saying something non politically correct. None of that, that I noticed.

It's just full on from everywhere, every angle now. I quite amazed with this place. I thought all the younger ones would be complete brainwashed, but in the few years since I was last here there is far more opposition and debate allowed to happen from people tired with and seeing through it.

But it's embedded in so strong in education these days, unless there is a big campaign to stop the blatant leftist propaganda into left-wing ideology, and remove it from the education system and just give people the facts and let them make of it what they will and encourage plurity and independence of thought, I think things are going to carry on as they are now of just get worse.

Thanks mate. I mean I grew up in a labour environment and picked up those anti-tory sentiments by osmosis myself. I was delighted when New Labour got in. They played the propaganda game beautifully, using the cool Britannia thing and getting Noel into Downing Street was a master stroke. To me labour were cool and the good guys and the tories evil. And I think most youngsters have that belief.

I lived through what they done thought and seen the reality of their belief in mass migration and utter contempt for the right. Even having an open door policy just to spite the Right/. Britain had a perfect balance of immigration and great mix as far as I was concerned in the 90's. None of the problems we had now after Jack Straw flooded the country and which continues to happen.

Today's Leftism is a different form of Leftism, based on the philosophies of Marxist radicals and their penchant for creating their own terminology and dogmas and engaging in propaganda and mental warfare.

Leftist political radicals seized control of uni's decades ago, and there were books in the 70's I believe, such the Closing of the American Mind, talking about the things we see so frequently on campuses today. I remember it since childhood myself, all the attempts at indoctrination and the little projects that felt forced and unnatural and obviously trying to get you to think in a certain way.

But I rejected it, like most people. It was really only happening now and then at school, and the wider culture was different, music was still great, not many people gave a **** about politics. There was not wall to tv news media propaganda, the other media, political TV shows with the 4 leftists to the one dissenting voice set-up and a bias, hostile jeering crowd, no politically correct comedians like Russell Brand, Russell Howard, the Mash report all acting as organs of state propaganda pumping the same noxious, smarmy, disingenuous abuse, smears, ridicule, no Hollywood lovies and their stupid right on speeches, no social media campaigns and witch hunts, losing your job and trial by public for saying something non politically correct. None of that, that I noticed.

It's just full on from everywhere, every angle now. I quite amazed with this place. I thought all the younger ones would be complete brainwashed, but in the few years since I was last here there is far more opposition and debate allowed to happen from people tired with and seeing through it.

But it's embedded in so strong in education these days, unless there is a big campaign to stop the blatant leftist propaganda into left-wing ideology, and remove it from the education system and just give people the facts and let them make of it what they will and encourage plurity and independence of thought, I think things are going to carry on as they are now of just get worse.

What do you think of Jordan Peterson?

So a group of Scumlims from Somalia who raped British girls in Bristol, mainly white British girls and saying that it is part of the culture is pointing out the innocence of muslims, Pearson makes a very good point that no response has been made to Rotherham and Rochdale it is almost as if we are scared to say anything about Islam. I'm not i don't care what you think about me. These grooming gangs are playing muhammed in the Koran and the young white girls are being Aisha.

You really are one paranoid person.

Whats he paranoid about? Looks like to me he's stating his opinion? Can't do that in the UK nowadays, forgot.

Haha. Nothing to do with stating your opinion or not. It was the fact he's insistent that there's this big plot out to get him. Like a massive conspiracy theory.

It's sheer paranoia. It's laughable.

How it is? How is it a big conspiracy theory? They guy is literally stating how he preferred living back when everyone didn't take themselves too seriously and how he despises the left. Wheres the conspiracy to that?

I mean it is a big conspiracy. That there's this Marxist plot to take over education and our institutions in order to brainwash everyone and destroy our freedoms.

It's laughable and its paranoid. And it's rather funny that he complains about people taking stuff so seriously and then he comes out with conspiracy nonsense.

If its laughable why do you comment? Why do you care about his opinion? Lol

Because this is a forum... and if someone is posting conspiracy theories they deserve to be told that they are paranoid.