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Original post by Jin3011
According to the admissions tutor my role as a hospital pharmacist does, since its exposure to people with a myriad of health needs to whom I'm involved in the care of; albeit only pharmaceutical care.


I am a newly qualified pharmacist and I am hoping to apply in the next 1-2 years. I was quite fortunate to have done half my pre-reg in a GP surgery. Did they tell you to what extend your experience as a pharmacist counts?

My experience in primary care is very robust, I am now looking to shadow consultants in the Hospital. I see many people doing HCA courses, I feel like for people like us, those are not as necessary.
Original post by aallisonn
They use VR first and get rid of people who didn't score the average or above the average score for VR for that round. They then rank by total UKCAT scores. Depending on that and how much work experience you have, they determine whether you are interviewed. You're sent the work experience questionnaire when you're invited for interview.


Assuming you're allowed to, could you share some details about this experience questionnaire? What questions do they ask? Thanks.
Original post by Mr Optimist
Assuming you're allowed to, could you share some details about this experience questionnaire? What questions do they ask? Thanks.


All they said on the open day is that they ask for a named contact, hours spent there and that it should be within the last 2 yrs. I'm not sure what it exactly looks like since I'm hopefully applying this september (if my ukcat is good).
Original post by aallisonn
All they said on the open day is that they ask for a named contact, hours spent there and that it should be within the last 2 yrs. I'm not sure what it exactly looks like since I'm hopefully applying this september (if my ukcat is good).


Thank you for the reply. The "it should be within last 2 years" is actually a bummer for me as I got my main experience in 2017-2018. I finished working at the surgery around 6 months ago. That was where I was getting my main experience. This really forces me to apply in 2019. Ideally I wanted to work for a while and then apply. Having said that, I could always go back to the surgery and get some short experience to "refresh" my experience there.

All the best in your application!
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Original post by Mr Optimist
Thank you for the reply. The "it should be within last 2 years" is actually a bummer for me as I got my main experience in 2017-2018. I finished working at the surgery around 6 months ago. That was where I was getting my main experience. This really forces me to apply in 2019. Ideally I wanted to work for a while and then apply. Having said that, I could always go back to the surgery and get some short experience to "refresh" my experience there.

All the best in your application!


Sorry, I was supposed to write the last 3yrs (just checked my notes from the open day). So for entry 2019, they want work experience from 15/10/15 to 15/10/18.

They require at least 70hrs of work experience too, which should be from at least 2 experiences. Completely forgot to mention that before.

I heard they do consider deferred entry depending on circumstances, so you could try applying this year? You'll just have to state in on your ucas application the reason why you'd like to defer.

And thank you!
Original post by aallisonn
Sorry, I was supposed to write the last 3yrs (just checked my notes from the open day). So for entry 2019, they want work experience from 15/10/15 to 15/10/18.

They require at least 70hrs of work experience too, which should be from at least 2 experiences. Completely forgot to mention that before.

I heard they do consider deferred entry depending on circumstances, so you could try applying this year? You'll just have to state in on your ucas application the reason why you'd like to defer.

And thank you!


I see, thank you. That's good news. I'll probably be applying in 2020, maybe in 2019 depending on whether I saved enough cash and whether I feel ready for GAMSAT/UCAT.
I can't seem to get a job as a HCA in hospitals or even voluntary work? How did you guys apply for ur work experiences?? I only have shadowing in 2015 which is olddddd loooool
Original post by Volibear
Try NHS jobs/trac jobs and the volunteering page of your local NHS trust. I used them to get a place in a psychiatric hospital, and then directly applied to a hospice to volunteer there. Also, maybe consider other jobs instead of being an HCA. I'm hoping to get a job as an ECA for my gap year.

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That's where I looked NHS jobs lol. How long did you wait for their response?
Original post by Volibear
Well I got a response and interview invite from the psychiatric hospital pretty quickly. I heard back from the hospice about a month after I sent off the application (initially thought they'd rejected me lol). But I didn't actually start either of them until 3 months after because of DBS stuff. I.e. I applied in late August/early September, and actually started at the hospice the week before I went home for the Christmas holidays, and didn't start at the hospital until January.

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i just feel like i left all the work experience stuff last minute -.- the deadline for the applications is october -.-
Original post by Volibear
It's not the deadline for experience though. I would suggest keep applying for jobs (strongly recommend looking into jobs with the ambulance service if hospital jobs are lacking) with the hope you find something that will let you start sooner. Also, anything voluntary (you may have better luck with DBS than me lol). If you can get enough to make your PS decent, you'll still have quite a long time until the interviews. Even Warwick ask you to fill in the experience form in December.

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The work experience form last year stated the UCAS application deadline as the cutoff date for work experience, so even though you submit your work experience questionnaire in December it states the date range. The date range that we were given was something like 15 Oct 14 - 15 Oct 17.
Original post by FemaleBo55
I can't seem to get a job as a HCA in hospitals or even voluntary work? How did you guys apply for ur work experiences?? I only have shadowing in 2015 which is olddddd loooool


I straight up contacted consultants and usually hospitals have work experience schemes up, so I contact those people.

With hca, it's hard. I got lucky that I got an agency to take me on because I've only completed a module in clinical skills, done some shadowing and volunteered at a care home. So maybe contact some care homes too?
Hi :smile: I have 2 questions and would be super grateful if anyone could answer them...

1) I’ve read the Warwick work experience info, which says for 2019 entry applicants need “Hands-on experince in direct care of patients”. Would working as a community or hospital pharmacist count as this? Just pharmacists don’t tend to touch patients, but are definitely involved in their direct care :smile:

2) Any tips for getting part time jobs as a HCA?
Original post by Irumis
Hi :smile: I have 2 questions and would be super grateful if anyone could answer them...

1) I’ve read the Warwick work experience info, which says for 2019 entry applicants need “Hands-on experince in direct care of patients”. Would working as a community or hospital pharmacist count as this? Just pharmacists don’t tend to touch patients, but are definitely involved in their direct care :smile:

2) Any tips for getting part time jobs as a HCA?


For Q1, hospital pharmacist roles count towards the 50 hours of hands-on care. But Warwick told me via email that they also like to see a mixture of experience too where you're also caring for patients' physical and emotional needs too - and long-term volunteering at a care home, hospice or working as a HCA is seen highly in this regard.

If you did your pre-reg in a hospital, you could use that for the entire 20 hours 'shadowing' experience too!

Although community pharmacists certainly engage in meaningful patient consultation, give self-help and healthy living advice, and have AMAZING long-term rapport with their patients, I didn't specifically ask the admissions tutor about this since this role was not applicable to me. The role of a community pharmacist differs considerably to that of a hospital pharmacist and therefore it'd be best to email the admission to confirm if this counts towards their criteria. I don't want to give you any false info :h:.

For Q2. I'll let others answer this since although I work with HCA's daily, I've never applied for the role myself! I did enquire about it though, and the matron for medical services at my Trust stated that if I was interested in a bank HCA-type position, she would try and secure me one somehow within either medical admissions or stroke rehabilitation. However, with me working full-time, doing on-calls/evenings/weekends, working on a post-grad course, volunteering and working on my medical application, it would have been unfeasible and unsafe for me to take on extra duties! So I guess this may something that you'd need to consider for your own situation too bud :smile:.

Best wishes.
Original post by Jin3011
For Q1, hospital pharmacist roles count towards the 50 hours of hands-on care. But Warwick told me via email that they also like to see a mixture of experience too where you're also caring for patients' physical and emotional needs too - and long-term volunteering at a care home, hospice or working as a HCA is seen highly in this regard.

If you did your pre-reg in a hospital, you could use that for the entire 20 hours 'shadowing' experience too!

Although community pharmacists certainly engage in meaningful patient consultation, give self-help and healthy living advice, and have AMAZING long-term rapport with their patients, I didn't specifically ask the admissions tutor about this since this role was not applicable to me. The role of a community pharmacist differs considerably to that of a hospital pharmacist and therefore it'd be best to email the admission to confirm if this counts towards their criteria. I don't want to give you any false info :h:.

For Q2. I'll let others answer this since although I work with HCA's daily, I've never applied for the role myself! I did enquire about it though, and the matron for medical services at my Trust stated that if I was interested in a bank HCA-type position, she would try and secure me one somehow within either medical admissions or stroke rehabilitation. However, with me working full-time, doing on-calls/evenings/weekends, working on a post-grad course, volunteering and working on my medical application, it would have been unfeasible and unsafe for me to take on extra duties! So I guess this may something that you'd need to consider for your own situation too bud :smile:.

Best wishes.

Thank you sooo much for this answer!!
Reply 94
Just taken mu ukcat. Average- 702.5 do you think this stands a chance?
Reply 95
Original post by zoe2424
Just taken mu ukcat. Average- 702.5 do you think this stands a chance?

Well done! Yes it should be good enough for UKCAT requirements - depending on whether you have scored above average in VR :smile:
Reply 96
Original post by thechem1
Hi everyone

Im starting medicine at Warwick this September so if anyone has any questions about the application process then I’d be happy to answer any

Good luck!

What was your UKCAT and specifically VR score?
Reply 97
Original post by clme92
Well done! Yes it should be good enough for UKCAT requirements - depending on whether you have scored above average in VR :smile:

Thanks! I’m pretty pleased since it went better than my mocks. Only issue is that I mucked up my VR a bit and scored 600 which is pretty much average! :frown:
Reply 98
Do we know what counts as a competitive VR score?
Reply 99
Well ....

UKCAT today:

VR: 650
DM: 670
QR: 760
AR: 670
SJT: Band 1
2750 - Average 687.5

I think I just might meet cut off??

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