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art as a career?

Please help. My parents are pretty angry that I want Art to be a part of my career once I graduate uni. They always wanted me to go into Law since I was a kid. I haven’t even started A-levels yet. I really want to keep art in my life but everyone around me has been telling me that I’ll die on the streets. Is Art really that useless? What jobs can I get with, let’s say, a Fine Arts degree?
Original post by tiredartist21
Please help. My parents are pretty angry that I want Art to be a part of my career once I graduate uni. They always wanted me to go into Law since I was a kid. I haven’t even started A-levels yet. I really want to keep art in my life but everyone around me has been telling me that I’ll die on the streets. Is Art really that useless? What jobs can I get with, let’s say, a Fine Arts degree?


Well, your parents don't dictate what career you can and will do. Even if you don't want to do a degree in law, you can do it via professional qualifications and apprenticeships. If anything, law can be more of a backup career or something to support your artistic pursuits (although you will be pressed for time considering both law and art each require a lot of time).

Strictly speaking, you don't really need a degree to go into art. With an art degree, the most relevant jobs would be an arts curator, art teacher/lecturer, or an art appraiser/expert (you can strictly also work on restoring art as well as a conservator). Most of these jobs (other than a teacher) would not require you to have a degree of any sort, not even as an artist.
The only job that will strictly require a degree level education would be an architect, which is a professional occupation i.e. it's regulated by law (don't ask why). However, you can get into the role via apprenticeships (albeit very rare).
If you want a certain slant to a line of work, you can look into product design or product design engineering (the former requires no maths and more likely requiring art, the latter requires maths and possibly a science).
Note: you can't do architecture with a bachelor's in fine art.

You can then go for jobs that ask for any degree (mostly because you don't need degrees to go into them). These include:

Administration

Government services

Social work

Some areas of healthcatre

Most areas of business

IT roles (if you have the skills and experience; it's ideal to have IT certificates relevant to the specific role that you want to apply for)

Some areas of construction

Most areas related to property

Most areas related to beauty and wellbeing

Anything creative or involving media

Theatre and film (if you're good)

Music (if you know how to play an instrument)

Anything related to writing (if you're good)

Storage companies

Logistics

Armed forces and police force (if you pass certain tests, have a clean record, and are below of a certain age)

Some environmental services

Social work

Hospitality

Manufacturing

Management (if you have the relevant experience)

Retail

Care work

Travel and tourism

Charity

Entertainment (if you're good)



You can also go into the following areas with further courses at collge (but kind of defeats the point of dong a degree):

Animal care (except for vet)

Some areas of construction

Some trades

Some areas related to beauty and wellbeing

Some areas of engineering



You can then go into the following areas if you decide to later do a relevant postgrad degree:

Psychology (conversion)

Nursing

Education (with QTS degree)

Research in certain disciplines


You can then go into the following areas with specific professional qualifications:

Accounting

Law

Most areas of finance

Delivery and transport (licences)

Sports coaching



So no, you won't live on the streets with a fine arts degree (although it's very tough to live as an artist without a second source of income). Most people who go into the arts would do something to earn money on the side (hopefully not just catering, but it's very typical). If you haven't planned this far, then I suggest you think about what you want to do.
Do also note, law is a very competitive career anyway. If your heart is not in the job, it's going to be very difficult to survive.
Original post by MindMax2000
Well, your parents don't dictate what career you can and will do. Even if you don't want to do a degree in law, you can do it via professional qualifications and apprenticeships. If anything, law can be more of a backup career or something to support your artistic pursuits (although you will be pressed for time considering both law and art each require a lot of time).

Strictly speaking, you don't really need a degree to go into art. With an art degree, the most relevant jobs would be an arts curator, art teacher/lecturer, or an art appraiser/expert (you can strictly also work on restoring art as well as a conservator). Most of these jobs (other than a teacher) would not require you to have a degree of any sort, not even as an artist.
The only job that will strictly require a degree level education would be an architect, which is a professional occupation i.e. it's regulated by law (don't ask why). However, you can get into the role via apprenticeships (albeit very rare).
If you want a certain slant to a line of work, you can look into product design or product design engineering (the former requires no maths and more likely requiring art, the latter requires maths and possibly a science).
Note: you can't do architecture with a bachelor's in fine art.

You can then go for jobs that ask for any degree (mostly because you don't need degrees to go into them). These include:

Administration

Government services

Social work

Some areas of healthcatre

Most areas of business

IT roles (if you have the skills and experience; it's ideal to have IT certificates relevant to the specific role that you want to apply for)

Some areas of construction

Most areas related to property

Most areas related to beauty and wellbeing

Anything creative or involving media

Theatre and film (if you're good)

Music (if you know how to play an instrument)

Anything related to writing (if you're good)

Storage companies

Logistics

Armed forces and police force (if you pass certain tests, have a clean record, and are below of a certain age)

Some environmental services

Social work

Hospitality

Manufacturing

Management (if you have the relevant experience)

Retail

Care work

Travel and tourism

Charity

Entertainment (if you're good)



You can also go into the following areas with further courses at collge (but kind of defeats the point of dong a degree):

Animal care (except for vet)

Some areas of construction

Some trades

Some areas related to beauty and wellbeing

Some areas of engineering



You can then go into the following areas if you decide to later do a relevant postgrad degree:

Psychology (conversion)

Nursing

Education (with QTS degree)

Research in certain disciplines


You can then go into the following areas with specific professional qualifications:

Accounting

Law

Most areas of finance

Delivery and transport (licences)

Sports coaching



So no, you won't live on the streets with a fine arts degree (although it's very tough to live as an artist without a second source of income). Most people who go into the arts would do something to earn money on the side (hopefully not just catering, but it's very typical). If you haven't planned this far, then I suggest you think about what you want to do.
Do also note, law is a very competitive career anyway. If your heart is not in the job, it's going to be very difficult to survive.

Thank you so much! This really reassured me.
Original post by tiredartist21
Thank you so much! This really reassured me.


I would just add that you should be very sure about what you want to do. Go and do art if that's your passion, but beware of what you are trading in if you do so and to plan very far ahead.

Not saying it's all doom and gloom though. I know people who did art degrees and some became property investors. podcasters (with other businesses), art therapist (another art related profession), volunteer in a government role, art teachers. I also have come across lawyers who do art. I also know creative people who are illustrators, web designers, computer artists, book cover designers, web graphics specialists.

Personally, I wouldn't do a degree for art subjects unless it's say something related to engineering, teaching, or architecture (a job where a degree is necessary). At the end of the day, it's still your choice.
Original post by tiredartist21
Please help. My parents are pretty angry that I want Art to be a part of my career once I graduate uni. They always wanted me to go into Law since I was a kid. I haven’t even started A-levels yet. I really want to keep art in my life but everyone around me has been telling me that I’ll die on the streets. Is Art really that useless? What jobs can I get with, let’s say, a Fine Arts degree?


Hi @tiredartist21

I'm sorry to hear you parents are trying to discourage you from following your passion. As an final year Fine Art student, I can tell you that there absolutely is value to be gained through studying the arts! While those who comment about very few jobs specifically requiring an art degree aren't strictly wrong, this does not correspond to art degrees being 'useless'. It may not necessarily be the piece of paper (the degree) itself which gets you a job, but rather everything you have learnt and all the skills you have developed in the process. Fine art is a hugely varied area of study, and personally I find people often underestimate all the skills that are required. Critical thinking for example, which is core to any fine art course, is often a really sought out skill for employers. It's not just drawing pretty pictures:smile:

There a lots and lots of different unique jobs in the creative industry, including traditional roles in arts organisations and galleries, but also the entertainment industry, and creative roles in corporate businesses. There's a lot more out there than just art teachers and curators (although these are also great options). A lot of these jobs you've probably never even heard of and some may not even exist yet!

Whatever university you go to, you will be provided with career support. My department at Lancaster for example have a dedicated staff member who delivers talks and provides the opportunity to book 1 to 1 appointments to talk about careers. We have also had weekly online talks from visiting artists and access to our tutor's experiences. While considering the future is a really good idea, you do not need to decide on a career path before you even apply to universities, as long as you are following your own interests!

Good luck:smile:
Yasmin (Lancaster University student ambassador)
Original post by tiredartist21
Please help. My parents are pretty angry that I want Art to be a part of my career once I graduate uni. They always wanted me to go into Law since I was a kid. I haven’t even started A-levels yet. I really want to keep art in my life but everyone around me has been telling me that I’ll die on the streets. Is Art really that useless? What jobs can I get with, let’s say, a Fine Arts degree?


Hi @tiredartist21!

As others have noted, there is a common misconception that taking on a creative degree translates only to a career in selling your artwork independently. This is not the case, and there are many jobs which require the skills that an Art/Design-based degree will give you. Some examples include the entertainment industry (Film/TV), advertising, and marketing. According to the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, in the year from October 2019 to September 2020 the Creative Industries accounted for 2.2 million jobs. It's a great idea to do some research into creative careers, and if you have any interest in the entertainment industry (even traditional art skills can get you into a job in a film's Art Department!), I would definitely recommend ScreenSkills. They are my most recommended resource for people who want to turn their passion for art into a viable career. Even if you're not interested in film or TV, I would recommend their brilliant article called "It's not a proper job though, is it?", which will correct a lot of the misunderstandings that your parents have with facts from real experts.

Feel free to reach out if you have any questions!
Rohnak
Escape Studios Student Rep

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