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Advice on what to take for A levels

Hi,

I am going into college soon and I'm unsure which A levels work best together:

I want to take computer science, business and maths, but should I take physics or engineering instead of business/or maths, or something else? I'd like to be a machine learning or software engineer in the future and unsure what subjects would help set me up best for this career path.
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Original post by iambenji
Hi,

I am going into college soon and I'm unsure which A levels work best together:

I want to take computer science, business and maths, but should I take physics or engineering instead of business/or maths, or something else? I'd like to be a machine learning or software engineer in the future and unsure what subjects would help set me up best for this career path.

In terms of subject requirements, if you intend to go into machine learning or software engineering (presuming this is in research), then the only required A Level is maths. Further maths is optional, but bit of an overkill since no university asks for it. If you drop maths, I will have a falling out with you :smile:

Whether you take physics instead of business is up to you. Neither of these A Levels are required for degrees in software engineering (there is only 1 bachelors' in machine learning, and that's at Anglia Ruskin; machine learning is more of a subject reserved for master's degrees, and they tend to be joint with artificial intelligence and/or data science).

Computer science itself isn't a required subject for machine learning or software engineering degrees.

In terms of compatibility, physics or engineering will gel better with computer science and maths than business studies. Having said that, the prime concerns are meeting subject and grade requirements. If you can get higher grades in business than you do in physics or engineering, then do business.

In terms of getting work in industry, you don't need a degree to get into software engineering or machine learning. Most of it is on the job. See the following:
https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/data-scientist
https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/software-developer
https://www.careerpilot.org.uk/job-sectors/data-network/job-profile/data-scientist
https://www.careerpilot.org.uk/job-sectors/software-systems/job-profile/software-developer

It's also said that it's a lot better to become a software developer via apprenticeship than via grad scheme. However, I haven't done it myself, so you're better off getting a second opinion from someone in the industry if it applies to you. For anything related to academic research, you will need to go by the entry requirements of the specific degrees that you want to apply for.

Having said the above, it will depend on the individual university and individual degree course what the specific entry requirements are. If there are no specific subject requirements for that specific degree and you want to do that specific course at that specific university, then go by what the requirements are for that specific course and ignore whatever I have said. The requirements of the individual degree that you want to do takes precedence over what I or anybody else says in terms of what A Levels you need or should do.
Original post by iambenji
Hi,

I am going into college soon and I'm unsure which A levels work best together:

I want to take computer science, business and maths, but should I take physics or engineering instead of business/or maths, or something else? I'd like to be a machine learning or software engineer in the future and unsure what subjects would help set me up best for this career path.

Heya!
I would recommend researching the courses and looking at their entry requirements. You can use uniguide as a start :h: Look at what they require and compare it to what you have picked. If there is nothing specific then you can pick anything you would enjoy.

I hope this helps!
Milena
UCL PFE
Study Mind
Reply 3
Original post by MindMax2000
In terms of subject requirements, if you intend to go into machine learning or software engineering (presuming this is in research), then the only required A Level is maths. Further maths is optional, but bit of an overkill since no university asks for it. If you drop maths, I will have a falling out with you :smile:

Whether you take physics instead of business is up to you. Neither of these A Levels are required for degrees in software engineering (there is only 1 bachelors' in machine learning, and that's at Anglia Ruskin; machine learning is more of a subject reserved for master's degrees, and they tend to be joint with artificial intelligence and/or data science).

Computer science itself isn't a required subject for machine learning or software engineering degrees.

In terms of compatibility, physics or engineering will gel better with computer science and maths than business studies. Having said that, the prime concerns are meeting subject and grade requirements. If you can get higher grades in business than you do in physics or engineering, then do business.

In terms of getting work in industry, you don't need a degree to get into software engineering or machine learning. Most of it is on the job. See the following:
https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/data-scientist
https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/software-developer
https://www.careerpilot.org.uk/job-sectors/data-network/job-profile/data-scientist
https://www.careerpilot.org.uk/job-sectors/software-systems/job-profile/software-developer

It's also said that it's a lot better to become a software developer via apprenticeship than via grad scheme. However, I haven't done it myself, so you're better off getting a second opinion from someone in the industry if it applies to you. For anything related to academic research, you will need to go by the entry requirements of the specific degrees that you want to apply for.

Having said the above, it will depend on the individual university and individual degree course what the specific entry requirements are. If there are no specific subject requirements for that specific degree and you want to do that specific course at that specific university, then go by what the requirements are for that specific course and ignore whatever I have said. The requirements of the individual degree that you want to do takes precedence over what I or anybody else says in terms of what A Levels you need or should do.

Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it.
Original post by iambenji
Hi,

I am going into college soon and I'm unsure which A levels work best together:

I want to take computer science, business and maths, but should I take physics or engineering instead of business/or maths, or something else? I'd like to be a machine learning or software engineer in the future and unsure what subjects would help set me up best for this career path.

Hi ! I'm a second year Chemical Engineering student at Lancaster University .Just wanted to offer some advice on this . Maths is definitely useful if you do want to venture into software engineering but I do highly suggest that you do a little bit more research on this before making your decision .Checking out university websites are always helpful as they narrow your scope and helps makes things a little clearer .In terms of software engineering ,I personally don't have much information on it but I've put a link below that might be useful .I do know that for first years in software engineering, the course aims to give you the fundamental knowledge required to proceed in your degree ,so regardless whether you choose physics ,engineering or business ,the first year will aim to support you with basic software skills and knowledge .Hope this helps !
https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/software-engineering-bsc-hons-g602/

Yamini
Lancaster University FST Student Ambassador
Original post by iambenji
Hi,

I am going into college soon and I'm unsure which A levels work best together:

I want to take computer science, business and maths, but should I take physics or engineering instead of business/or maths, or something else? I'd like to be a machine learning or software engineer in the future and unsure what subjects would help set me up best for this career path.

Hi!

I think like other people have said, it's a good idea to look ahead to the degree requirements for some universities that you might be interested in. If they only have maths and computer science as desirable subjects, I would say go for a third subject that you are passionate about. If they require physics or engineering then you could look further into these options at A level.

I've just graduated with a Natural Sciences BSc at Lancaster University where the entry requirements are two science subjects. My areas of interest ended up being Physical Geography and Mechanical Engineering which may not sound like they would work well together but they worked out really well for me. Overall, I think if you take subjects that you find interesting, you will tend to have the most enjoyable and successful A levels.

- Bethan (Lancaster University Natural Sciences Ambassador)
Reply 6
Original post by Lancaster Student Ambassador
Hi!

I think like other people have said, it's a good idea to look ahead to the degree requirements for some universities that you might be interested in. If they only have maths and computer science as desirable subjects, I would say go for a third subject that you are passionate about. If they require physics or engineering then you could look further into these options at A level.

I've just graduated with a Natural Sciences BSc at Lancaster University where thTe entry requirements are two science subjects. My areas of interest ended up being Physical Geography and Mechanical Engineering which may not sound like they would work well together but they worked out really well for me. Overall, I think if you take subjects that you find interesting, you will tend to have the most enjoyable and successful A levels.

- Bethan (Lancaster University Natural Sciences Ambassador)

Thank you! I know you need a grade 6 primarily in maths and physics, I'm on foundation and the max I can get is a 5. I don't really know what to do in regards to do, but I'm trying!
Original post by iambenji
Thank you! I know you need a grade 6 primarily in maths and physics, I'm on foundation and the max I can get is a 5. I don't really know what to do in regards to do, but I'm trying!


Firstly, Have you considered talking to your teacher about it? At this moment in time, you're only able to negotiate with your teacher if you can get on the higher paper.

Second, how much time do you have until your exam? If you have another year, then you can try to see if you can convince your teachers otherwise. If you're definitely implying that you have 2 months, then chances are you are already too late to do this.
If you can't get it changed, you can try to speak to the undergrad admissions of the specific universities that you want to attend to to see if they are willing to accept resits because of the category of papers you are signed up for and you want to do your application justice.
You would then need to also consider your application for 6th form and whether the colleges will allow you to do resits and do yourself justice.

Third, how is your confidence in these subjects and are you able to achieve the grades that you need? I have no problem giving your resources and guidance on improving your grades in these subjects, but you would need time to prepare and be able to actually perform in the exams. If you're not particularly strong in these subjects, you will need more time to prepare.
Original post by iambenji
Hi,

I am going into college soon and I'm unsure which A levels work best together:

I want to take computer science, business and maths, but should I take physics or engineering instead of business/or maths, or something else? I'd like to be a machine learning or software engineer in the future and unsure what subjects would help set me up best for this career path.


Hi,
Deciding what a levels to take can be scary especially if you are thinking about your future. I would recommend taking what you enjoy as you will be spending two years focussing on it. If you are concerned about what will set you up best for your future I would recommend looking in university websites at what subjects they prefer or grades.

I hope this helps,

Eleanor F
Student Ambassador
Reply 9
Original post by MindMax2000
Firstly, Have you considered talking to your teacher about it? At this moment in time, you're only able to negotiate with your teacher if you can get on the higher paper.

Second, how much time do you have until your exam? If you have another year, then you can try to see if you can convince your teachers otherwise. If you're definitely implying that you have 2 months, then chances are you are already too late to do this.
If you can't get it changed, you can try to speak to the undergrad admissions of the specific universities that you want to attend to to see if they are willing to accept resits because of the category of papers you are signed up for and you want to do your application justice.
You would then need to also consider your application for 6th form and whether the colleges will allow you to do resits and do yourself justice.

Third, how is your confidence in these subjects and are you able to achieve the grades that you need? I have no problem giving your resources and guidance on improving your grades in these subjects, but you would need time to prepare and be able to actually perform in the exams. If you're not particularly strong in these subjects, you will need more time to prepare.


I’m stuck doing foundation as I’ve signed my entry statement now and have less than 2 months until my exams in May-June, but I’m getting strong grade 5s in maths, science and a 6 in computer science. Im practising and asking for higher tier in class and revising at home everyday, too. My health has got in the way but Im still proud Im getting semi-high grades for the amount of time I’ve had off. Im hoping if I get grade 5s the college hopefully accept me or let me do resits. I have the interview on Monday, so I’ll ask. If you could provide me resources I’d love that if possible, I already use Senecca. I’ve looked around and spoken to my tutor and I think computer science, maths and physics are the main ones I need.
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Original post by iambenji
I’m stuck doing foundation as I’ve signed my entry statement now and have less than 2 months until my exams in May-June, but I’m getting strong grade 5s in maths, science and a 6 in computer science. Im practising and asking for higher tier in class and revising at home everyday, too. My health has got in the way but Im still proud Im getting semi-high grades for the amount of time I’ve had off. Im hoping if I get grade 5s the college hopefully accept me or let me do resits. I have the interview on Monday, so I’ll ask. If you could provide me resources I’d love that if possible, I already use Senecca. I’ve looked around and spoken to my tutor and I think computer science, maths and physics are the main ones I need.

Consider:
https://www.mathsgenie.co.uk/
http://www.mrbartonmaths.com/students/
https://studymaths.co.uk/
https://revisionmaths.com/
https://corbettmaths.com/2022/02/28/gcse-maths-revision-2022/
https://www.savemyexams.co.uk

People who I follow for maths stuff include:
https://www.youtube.com/c/BicenMaths
https://www.examsolutions.net/gcse-maths/ (https://www.youtube.com/user/examsolutions)
https://sites.google.com/view/tlmaths/home (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCgGyPD6MYQcHuMIc-Kv-Uw)

I haven't really looked into GCSE physics material.
Original post by MindMax2000
In terms of subject requirements, if you intend to go into machine learning or software engineering (presuming this is in research), then the only required A Level is maths. Further maths is optional, but bit of an overkill since no university asks for it. If you drop maths, I will have a falling out with you :smile:

Whether you take physics instead of business is up to you. Neither of these A Levels are required for degrees in software engineering (there is only 1 bachelors' in machine learning, and that's at Anglia Ruskin; machine learning is more of a subject reserved for master's degrees, and they tend to be joint with artificial intelligence and/or data science).

Computer science itself isn't a required subject for machine learning or software engineering degrees.

In terms of compatibility, physics or engineering will gel better with computer science and maths than business studies. Having said that, the prime concerns are meeting subject and grade requirements. If you can get higher grades in business than you do in physics or engineering, then do business.

In terms of getting work in industry, you don't need a degree to get into software engineering or machine learning. Most of it is on the job. See the following:
https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/data-scientist
https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/software-developer
https://www.careerpilot.org.uk/job-sectors/data-network/job-profile/data-scientist
https://www.careerpilot.org.uk/job-sectors/software-systems/job-profile/software-developer

It's also said that it's a lot better to become a software developer via apprenticeship than via grad scheme. However, I haven't done it myself, so you're better off getting a second opinion from someone in the industry if it applies to you. For anything related to academic research, you will need to go by the entry requirements of the specific degrees that you want to apply for.

Having said the above, it will depend on the individual university and individual degree course what the specific entry requirements are. If there are no specific subject requirements for that specific degree and you want to do that specific course at that specific university, then go by what the requirements are for that specific course and ignore whatever I have said. The requirements of the individual degree that you want to do takes precedence over what I or anybody else says in terms of what A Levels you need or should do.


I agree
Original post by iambenji
Thank you! I know you need a grade 6 primarily in maths and physics, I'm on foundation and the max I can get is a 5. I don't really know what to do in regards to do, but I'm trying!

That's ok, good luck with everything! For the Natural Sciences course at Lancaster, a 6 in GCSE Maths is required but there are always options down the line. You could look into sitting the higher GCSE maths paper later on if you feel like you are prepared to take it, you have time to figure things out and are already well ahead if you're thinking about university choices at this stage!

-Bethan (Lancaster University Natural Sciences Student Ambassador)

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