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Web and User Experience Design at MMU or Game Design in UniofLiverpool?

Hi,

I got an offer from University of Liverpool for BSc Game Design but I also got an offer for Web and User Experience Design at MMU, the thing is that I can't really chose between both of them, I would like to get a degree in an area that I could do some Masters in CC, coding/programming. Which one would be the best option for the future? If we think about the Tech area.

thanks all.
Original post by barb93872
Hi,

I got an offer from University of Liverpool for BSc Game Design but I also got an offer for Web and User Experience Design at MMU, the thing is that I can't really chose between both of them, I would like to get a degree in an area that I could do some Masters in CC, coding/programming. Which one would be the best option for the future? If we think about the Tech area.

thanks all.


This is a little silly in my opinion.

First of all, you don't need a degree in tech in order to get into tech. What the industry prize on are experience and skills. Even if you have a degree, you would be at the same starting point as if you didn't if you don't have a portfolio or something to showcase your work to employers.

Second, if anything, having the relevant professional IT certificate would be better than degrees to get into the industry. There aren't any specific to UX as far as I know, but for game design there are the Unreal and Unity certificates, and for programming there are the Python Institute for Python and Oracle for Java.

Third, if you have done college courses in UX or game design, they should be more than enough to get you into the industry. Even if you have to pay for the college courses yourself, you would still be better off than spending one year in university.

Fourth, if you want a degree that covers both as well as programming, why not just do a bachelor's degree in computer science? Computer science is a general IT degree, but it would pretty much cover everything in the tech field.

If you want specific master's degrees that cover programming, then it's probably prudent to pick computer science degrees that doesn't require relevant undergrad in computer science e.g.
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/graduate/taught-degrees/computer-science-msc
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/postgraduate/courses/taught/computer-science/computer-science.aspx
https://www.swansea.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/maths-comp-sci/computer-science/msc-computer-science/
https://www.bristol.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/eng/msc-computer-science-conversion/
https://www.bath.ac.uk/courses/postgraduate-2023/taught-postgraduate-courses/msc-computer-science/#entry-requirements
https://www.ncl.ac.uk/postgraduate/degrees/5055f/
There are others, but the above is just from the first page of Google.

As far as I know, game design is neither mathematical enough nor does it have enough programming to do advanced computer science courses. UX definitely doesn't. So you would need to do a conversion course (assuming you get a high enough grade in the degree to do the computer science degree).

If you don't have A Level maths for a computer science degree, it would be signficiantly cheaper and quicker if you spent a gap year doing the A Level as a private candidate (if you can't change your choices now) than to do it later as a master's degree. The 6th form colleges might sent entry requirements for the A Level, but the exam boards don't i.e. you can do it privately even if you have no prior qualifications (you don't even need GCSEs).

I don't know what CC means, so you will need to clarify.

If you are specifically asking which of the 2 degrees would likely provide you with more employment opportunities, I would say UX. This is because game design is an insanely competitive industry and most of the opportunities in the UK tend to be via freelancing i.e. not much use. UX on the other hand is more likely in demand as well as fetching a higher salary.
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Original post by MindMax2000
This is a little silly in my opinion.

First of all, you don't need a degree in tech in order to get into tech. What the industry prize on are experience and skills. Even if you have a degree, you would be at the same starting point as if you didn't if you don't have a portfolio or something to showcase your work to employers.

Second, if anything, having the relevant professional IT certificate would be better than degrees to get into the industry. There aren't any specific to UX as far as I know, but for game design there are the Unreal and Unity certificates, and for programming there are the Python Institute for Python and Oracle for Java.

Third, if you have done college courses in UX or game design, they should be more than enough to get you into the industry. Even if you have to pay for the college courses yourself, you would still be better off than spending one year in university.

Fourth, if you want a degree that covers both as well as programming, why not just do a bachelor's degree in computer science? Computer science is a general IT degree, but it would pretty much cover everything in the tech field.

If you want specific master's degrees that cover programming, then it's probably prudent to pick computer science degrees that doesn't require relevant undergrad in computer science e.g.
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/graduate/taught-degrees/computer-science-msc
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/postgraduate/courses/taught/computer-science/computer-science.aspx
https://www.swansea.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/maths-comp-sci/computer-science/msc-computer-science/
https://www.bristol.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/eng/msc-computer-science-conversion/
https://www.bath.ac.uk/courses/postgraduate-2023/taught-postgraduate-courses/msc-computer-science/#entry-requirements
https://www.ncl.ac.uk/postgraduate/degrees/5055f/
There are others, but the above is just from the first page of Google.

As far as I know, game design is neither mathematical enough nor does it have enough programming to do advanced computer science courses. UX definitely doesn't. So you would need to do a conversion course (assuming you get a high enough grade in the degree to do the computer science degree).

If you don't have A Level maths for a computer science degree, it would be signficiantly cheaper and quicker if you spent a gap year doing the A Level as a private candidate (if you can't change your choices now) than to do it later as a master's degree. The 6th form colleges might sent entry requirements for the A Level, but the exam boards don't i.e. you can do it privately even if you have no prior qualifications (you don't even need GCSEs).

I don't know what CC means, so you will need to clarify.

If you are specifically asking which of the 2 degrees would likely provide you with more employment opportunities, I would say UX. This is because game design is an insanely competitive industry and most of the opportunities in the UK tend to be via freelancing i.e. not much use. UX on the other hand is more likely in demand as well as fetching a higher salary.

Yes, I know it would sound a bit silly and I definetelly agree that UX could provide more employment opportunities at the moment. I was just wondering if in 10 years this career could not be replaced by A.I or if is not as competitive as the Game Industry.

I just wanted to see this situation in a diferrent perspective and you answered me with some good ideias (Specific certificates such as Python and Java). The meaning of CC is just Computer Science. I thought about getting a Computer Science Degree but it would be too much programming for me, I was looking for a mix of Design and Coding, that's the reason I applied for the courses mentioned.

The worst for me to decide is because UX would likely provide me with more employment opportunities but it does not have enough programming in the course, apart from HTML, CSS and a bit of Java, however Game Design at the University of Liverpool does offer that and have some extra coding modules. But again, Game Design is quite a competitive field. As you said I could just go for UX and complement it with some online courses.

Thank you for your comment, it helped me a lot.

But I will definetely look for the specific courses and certificates, thank you for the comment.
Original post by barb93872
Yes, I know it would sound a bit silly and I definetelly agree that UX could provide more employment opportunities at the moment. I was just wondering if in 10 years this career could not be replaced by A.I or if is not as competitive as the Game Industry.

I just wanted to see this situation in a diferrent perspective and you answered me with some good ideias (Specific certificates such as Python and Java). The meaning of CC is just Computer Science. I thought about getting a Computer Science Degree but it would be too much programming for me, I was looking for a mix of Design and Coding, that's the reason I applied for the courses mentioned.

The worst for me to decide is because UX would likely provide me with more employment opportunities but it does not have enough programming in the course, apart from HTML, CSS and a bit of Java, however Game Design at the University of Liverpool does offer that and have some extra coding modules. But again, Game Design is quite a competitive field. As you said I could just go for UX and complement it with some online courses.

Thank you for your comment, it helped me a lot.

But I will definetely look for the specific courses and certificates, thank you for the comment.


Sorry, forgot to add. With any programming language, they are constantly evolving and what you have learned in the past X years can easily be redundnant and you would have to learn the updated language all over again. This is one of the reasons why employers don't focus too much on qualifications as opposed to experience.

Alternative degrees that involve some programming include Business Information Systems, Data Science, Software Engineering, Computer Engineering, and Information Technology. However, I would still rather do a degree in computer science than any of these.

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