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I've been debating whether my chosen degree (start in September 2023) is for me. I picked English and Drama at manchester - but am realising this is more of a hobbie, rather than a passion I have to learn and explore. I've always loved geography and environmental science and I'm thinking it's what I want to do for the rest of my life... or at least study and find interesting and exciting. I think i may take a gap year to reapply but theres a few things I am not sure about. Most unis have environmental science degrees with a lot of chemistry and maths (this is a given i know, considering it is a STEM subject), but I am not the best at maths. Does anyone have any advice of specific courses / unis that offer geography / environmental science degrees that are more focused on geography/the environment rather than chemistry/maths? Also, what is the difference in geography and environmental science in terms of difficulty, competitiveness, and career prospects? I would like to stick with Manchester but that isnt too important. I'm not really sure what to do or where to even start with this so any advice would be amazing :smile: Im currently sitting my A-Levels so I'm thinking I will just re-evaluate my choices once I get my results. I'm kinda frustrated because i spent so long writing a personal statement and making a perfect application, applying for Manchester and reading around my subject, and attending all taster lectures and events... all to not even want to do that subject anymore. Lol.
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Reply 1
There's no point going to study a degree that right now as you are doing your a levels you have no interest in. That's so cool you are interested in geography and environmental science, I would say that BSc geography courses would probably be of interest to you / or be right to you! This is more physical science and environmental related, but you don't need a background in A-level maths. What subjects are you doing for A level? Are you in Year 12 or Year 13? https://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/2023/00575/bsc-geography/ I'm sure you can always continue your english and drama hobby through university societies and being involved in student theatre productions etc!

Other universities offering BSc geography for example https://www.durham.ac.uk/study/courses/f800/
https://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/degrees/index.php?action=view&code=F800#:~:text=The%20Bachelor%20of%20Science%20(BSc,study%20aspects%20of%20human%20geography.
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/undergraduate/courses/gees/geography-bsc.aspx
http://www.bristol.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/2024/geography/bsc-geography/
https://www.lse.ac.uk/study-at-lse/Undergraduate/degree-programmes-2024/BSc-Environment-and-Sustainable-Development (more social sciences oriented)
https://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/geography-bsc

Or perhaps environment and sustainability or environmental management, or BSc environmental science and geography
https://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/2023/12385/bsc-environmental-management/
https://www.reading.ac.uk/ready-to-study/study/subject-area/environment-ug/bsc-environmental-management
https://www.keele.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/undergraduatecourses/environmentalscienceandgeography/


You could always consider taking a foundation year if you want to change from humanities or arts subjects towards more scientific subjects at A level.
https://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/2024/12958/bsc-menvsci-environmental-science-with-an-integrated-foundation-year/. Manchster university offers a foundation course in environmental science which might be appropriate for you as well. I would say Physical Geography BSc and environmental science have similiar prospects, likely within environmental planning, sustainability and environmental consultancy https://environmentagencycareers.co.uk/careers/early-careers/?sType=ea_landingpage/ Have a look at the jobs posted on the environment agency for example
https://www.brightnetwork.co.uk/graduate-jobs/arcadis/graduate-environmental-social-governance-consultant-2023
https://www.arup.com/services/planning/environmental-consulting

On your personal statement you could perhaps reference any lecture videos you have watched online or on you tube to see if environmental science is right for you, probably over the summer after your exams. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyqSpQzTE6M_vO7rLpxKZWqai4uJP2bDa for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sz3ogyeKbk&list=PLg7f-TkW11iWnk9pq1Y0r8EXoBfYsbYeV&index=17&pp=iAQB

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg7f-TkW11iWnk9pq1Y0r8EXoBfYsbYeV
https://www.youtube.com/@ConnectedSociologies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyB3CIq2Wk0
https://www.youtube.com/@RHULGeography/videos

Hope this helps, good luck and I hope you can decide what you'd like to study in the future! If you need to change subjects or repeat a year / do an extra year, I would say it's worth it, don't rush and don't panic, it's much better to know what subject area you wish to study now, rather than hating your degree a few years down the line.
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Reply 2
Original post by Ðeggs
There's no point going to study a degree that right now as you are doing your a levels you have no interest in. That's so cool you are interested in geography and environmental science, I would say that BSc geography courses would probably be of interest to you / or be right to you! This is more physical science and environmental related, but you don't need a background in A-level maths. What subjects are you doing for A level? Are you in Year 12 or Year 13? https://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/2023/00575/bsc-geography/ I'm sure you can always continue your english and drama hobby through university societies and being involved in student theatre productions etc!

Other universities offering BSc geography for example https://www.durham.ac.uk/study/courses/f800/
https://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/degrees/index.php?action=view&code=F800#:~:text=The%20Bachelor%20of%20Science%20(BSc,study%20aspects%20of%20human%20geography.
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/undergraduate/courses/gees/geography-bsc.aspx
http://www.bristol.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/2024/geography/bsc-geography/
https://www.lse.ac.uk/study-at-lse/Undergraduate/degree-programmes-2024/BSc-Environment-and-Sustainable-Development (more social sciences oriented)
https://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/geography-bsc

Or perhaps environment and sustainability or environmental management, or BSc environmental science and geography
https://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/2023/12385/bsc-environmental-management/
https://www.reading.ac.uk/ready-to-study/study/subject-area/environment-ug/bsc-environmental-management
https://www.keele.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/undergraduatecourses/environmentalscienceandgeography/


You could always consider taking a foundation year if you want to change from humanities or arts subjects towards more scientific subjects at A level.
https://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/2024/12958/bsc-menvsci-environmental-science-with-an-integrated-foundation-year/. Manchster university offers a foundation course in environmental science which might be appropriate for you as well. I would say Physical Geography BSc and environmental science have similiar prospects, likely within environmental planning, sustainability and environmental consultancy https://environmentagencycareers.co.uk/careers/early-careers/?sType=ea_landingpage/ Have a look at the jobs posted on the environment agency for example
https://www.brightnetwork.co.uk/graduate-jobs/arcadis/graduate-environmental-social-governance-consultant-2023
https://www.arup.com/services/planning/environmental-consulting

On your personal statement you could perhaps reference any lecture videos you have watched online or on you tube to see if environmental science is right for you, probably over the summer after your exams. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyqSpQzTE6M_vO7rLpxKZWqai4uJP2bDa for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sz3ogyeKbk&list=PLg7f-TkW11iWnk9pq1Y0r8EXoBfYsbYeV&index=17&pp=iAQB

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg7f-TkW11iWnk9pq1Y0r8EXoBfYsbYeV
https://www.youtube.com/@ConnectedSociologies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyB3CIq2Wk0
https://www.youtube.com/@RHULGeography/videos

Hope this helps, good luck and I hope you can decide what you'd like to study in the future! If you need to change subjects or repeat a year / do an extra year, I would say it's worth it, don't rush and don't panic, it's much better to know what subject area you wish to study now, rather than hating your degree a few years down the line.


This is amazing!! Thank you so much :smile:
I'm currently studying english, biology and geography, so I think that would get me in to most courses. Im in Year 13 (hence the panic) but this makes me feel better about not rushing. I'm thinking I'll either switch to geography as a BSc because most modules have links to environmental science
Reply 3
Original post by s140805
This is amazing!! Thank you so much :smile:
I'm currently studying english, biology and geography, so I think that would get me in to most courses. Im in Year 13 (hence the panic) but this makes me feel better about not rushing. I'm thinking I'll either switch to geography as a BSc because most modules have links to environmental science

Another thing I just remembered, if you are interested in fieldwork and the practical side of geography, I would definitely recommend having a look at the Field Studies Council. They offer week long residential and fieldwork courses / experiences across the UK, to do with biology, geography, ecology and geology.
https://www.field-studies-council.org/courses-and-experiences/experiences-for-young-people/
Perhaps this could be a way to see if doing geography and environmental science is for you!

Also there is nothing stopping you emailing the university you have applied for and ask if you can change courses/ what you plan to do over the summer to bridge the gap etc. There is also the option of Clearing (I personally wouldn’t recommend it but it’s an option you if you are 100% set of going to any uni or a less perfect course etc)
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Reply 4
If you can do Biology Maths (as in the Maths that is in Bio) than you should be able to do the Maths (and chemistry) on an environmental science course? U would have to check with the uni, tho?
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Original post by Dnsnnssn
If you can do Biology Maths (as in the Maths that is in Bio) than you should be able to do the Maths (and chemistry) on an environmental science course? U would have to check with the uni, tho?


Yeah I mean I'm not terrible at maths, but I look at my friends doing A level maths and chemistry and it just looks impossible
Reply 6
Original post by s140805
Yeah I mean I'm not terrible at maths, but I look at my friends doing A level maths and chemistry and it just looks impossible


Are u sure Environmental Science has that much Maths and Chemistry?
Don't compare yourself to others doing Maths. I doubt u will need A level Maths at most unis. If it's not in the entry requirements I should be fine.
Original post by s140805
I've been debating whether my chosen degree (start in September 2023) is for me. I picked English and Drama at manchester - but am realising this is more of a hobbie, rather than a passion I have to learn and explore. I've always loved geography and environmental science and I'm thinking it's what I want to do for the rest of my life... or at least study and find interesting and exciting. I think i may take a gap year to reapply but theres a few things I am not sure about. Most unis have environmental science degrees with a lot of chemistry and maths (this is a given i know, considering it is a STEM subject), but I am not the best at maths. Does anyone have any advice of specific courses / unis that offer geography / environmental science degrees that are more focused on geography/the environment rather than chemistry/maths? Also, what is the difference in geography and environmental science in terms of difficulty, competitiveness, and career prospects? I would like to stick with Manchester but that isnt too important. I'm not really sure what to do or where to even start with this so any advice would be amazing :smile: Im currently sitting my A-Levels so I'm thinking I will just re-evaluate my choices once I get my results. I'm kinda frustrated because i spent so long writing a personal statement and making a perfect application, applying for Manchester and reading around my subject, and attending all taster lectures and events... all to not even want to do that subject anymore. Lol.


Hi there!

I have just graduated from Lancaster University with a Natural Sciences BSc so thought I could give my experience with the degree. Natural Sciences degrees tend to vary by university, so it's definitely worth having a look around to see what course is right for you. At Lancaster, the degree is very flexible, you can choose 3 pathways out of a possible 21. The subjects range from environmental science, ecology, geography, earth sciences, biology, maths, and more, so there are many different possible combinations! The complete list of different pathways is in the brochure which can be found here - https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/natural-sciences/ . In terms of your options, you could take a range of environmental/geography options in your degree and then see which areas you end up preferring and tailoring the later years of your degree towards those. Also, if a degree scheme does not require maths or chemistry then you won’t have to know that content for the course, and you shouldn't be disadvantaged or unable to keep up with the content at all.

I have loved the degree, and have started studying a Mechanical Engineering Masters since that ended up being my favourite subject of my Natural Sciences undergraduate. I also found that it helped me when applying for placement years as it showed that I could apply myself to different types of work. I did my placement year with the Environment Agency, helping with flood modelling and also some of the mechanical engineering projects. A natural Sciences degree set me up really well for this.

I absolutely loved the degree and if you have any questions, just let me know!

-Bethan (Lancaster University Student Ambassador)

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