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Applied for UCLAN Foundation Veterinary medicine

Any tips on potential decline as I’m nervous of getting rejected for Vet medicine Foundation Entry at UNIVERSITY OF LANCASHIRE.

I have the grade required : DDM and the GCSE requirements as well and have done my Personal statement over and over again with friends before I submitted it. Now I’m nervous as some vet school can reject you even if you have the grade if they are oversubscribed.
Original post by Xaomi12
Any tips on potential decline as I’m nervous of getting rejected for Vet medicine Foundation Entry at UNIVERSITY OF LANCASHIRE.

I have the grade required : DDM and the GCSE requirements as well and have done my Personal statement over and over again with friends before I submitted it. Now I’m nervous as some vet school can reject you even if you have the grade if they are oversubscribed.

Hi there @Xaomi12, :smile:

Great to hear that you have applied to study BVMS Veterinary Medicine & Surgery (Foundation Entry) here at UCLan.

I know this can be a worrying time for many applicants waiting to hear back, try to focus on the fact that you've worked hard and have done everything you can. Our admissions team are working through applications and will be in touch as soon as possible with an update. If you have any questions please feel free to send us a DM on any of our social accounts, or email you can email our admissions team at [email protected].

All the best, :smile:
Sarah
Reply 2
Hi Sarah,

Many thanks for the reply. Knowing that the application ends in January if I'm correct - Do you know if the response to the application would occur during February or roughly February to May, I presume?
I just want to ensure you are aware their ‘foundation entry’ is not really a foundation to vet med course as you have to reapply for vet med once on the course. Most foundation programs you automatically end up on the vet program as long as you pass the year but with their program only a small amount can go onto vet med and you have to undergo an interview etc anyway. Just something to be aware of! Have you applied to any others? X
Original post by ALEreapp
I just want to ensure you are aware their ‘foundation entry’ is not really a foundation to vet med course as you have to reapply for vet med once on the course. Most foundation programs you automatically end up on the vet program as long as you pass the year but with their program only a small amount can go onto vet med and you have to undergo an interview etc anyway. Just something to be aware of! Have you applied to any others? X
That’s not correct. Progression numbers are not capped but are based on attainment to ensure you’ll be able to cope with the challenges of the vet degree
Original post by VetMedGuru
That’s not correct. Progression numbers are not capped but are based on attainment to ensure you’ll be able to cope with the challenges of the vet degree


I mean they told me at their open day numbers were capped so… the attainment for it to be a legit foundation course is by passing the year. Their website is VERY misleading in saying the course is 6 years when it is not. No genuine foundation (to vet med) program makes you reapply to vet med alongside the course and do an interview etc
(edited 1 year ago)
Original post by Xaomi12
Hi Sarah,

Many thanks for the reply. Knowing that the application ends in January if I'm correct - Do you know if the response to the application would occur during February or roughly February to May, I presume?

Hi there @Xaomi12, :smile:

Yes, applications for our BVMS Veterinary Medicine & Surgery (Foundation Entry) course must be submitted before the UCAS deadline on 31st January. Our admissions team will then review applications after the deadline. Applicants will receive a decisions on their application anytime after the deadline till May.

If you have any questions about your application you can contact our admissions team directly at [email protected] for further support.

All the best, :smile:
Sarah
Numbers are not capped but they do set a mark you have to achieve to progress to vet med- if you have previously had an interview with them for BVMS you do not need to reinterview (for example for candidates who did not get the grades for vet med but had had an offer from them).
Original post by Vetmum13
Numbers are not capped but they do set a mark you have to achieve to progress to vet med- if you have previously had an interview with them for BVMS you do not need to reinterview (for example for candidates who did not get the grades for vet med but had had an offer from them).

So if you didn’t have an interview or failed the interview do you still need to reinterview or can you just pass the year by a certain mark
Original post by Hannah162782
So if you didn’t have an interview or failed the interview do you still need to reinterview or can you just pass the year by a certain mark

I think you would have to interview again - I believe it’s only those who have passed the 5 yr vet med interview then didn’t get grades that don’t interview again but then need to get around 70% to progress
(edited 1 year ago)
Reply 10
Original post by ALEreapp
I mean they told me at their open day numbers were capped so… the attainment for it to be a legit foundation course is by passing the year. Their website is VERY misleading in saying the course is 6 years when it is not. No genuine foundation (to vet med) program makes you reapply to vet med alongside the course and do an interview etc

If by capped you mean they don’t offer infinite places you’re correct. But no vet school offers infinite places so this sees an odd thing to be upset about. If by capped you mean the number of students progressing to year one of the degree are limited, you are incorrect. All students can progress subject to achieving the progression requirements which are clearly outlined on the website :

As the course is highly competitive, to progress onto Year 1 of our BVMS course, you'll need to partake in the standard application process, which requires the following:

Meet the qualifying grade criteria in Year 0

Apply for BVMS Year 1 in your first semester of Year 0

Complete the interview selection event

Receive an offer to join the BVMS 5-year programme

Meet any conditional requirements of the offer

Join the BVMS 5-year programme at the start of the next academic year

https://www.uclan.ac.uk/undergraduate/courses/veterinary-medicine-surgery-foundation-entry-bvms
Reply 11
Original post by VetMedGuru
If by capped you mean they don’t offer infinite places you’re correct. But no vet school offers infinite places so this sees an odd thing to be upset about. If by capped you mean the number of students progressing to year one of the degree are limited, you are incorrect. All students can progress subject to achieving the progression requirements which are clearly outlined on the website :

As the course is highly competitive, to progress onto Year 1 of our BVMS course, you'll need to partake in the standard application process, which requires the following:

Meet the qualifying grade criteria in Year 0

Apply for BVMS Year 1 in your first semester of Year 0

Complete the interview selection event

Receive an offer to join the BVMS 5-year programme

Meet any conditional requirements of the offer

Join the BVMS 5-year programme at the start of the next academic year

https://www.uclan.ac.uk/undergraduate/courses/veterinary-medicine-surgery-foundation-entry-bvms


Not sure why you are replying 4 months later seems a bit pointless but I will just repeat exactly what I said 4 months ago… that’s what THEY told me.
Reply 12
Original post by ALEreapp
Not sure why you are replying 4 months later seems a bit pointless but I will just repeat exactly what I said 4 months ago… that’s what THEY told me.
They told you they don’t offer infinite places?
Seems pretty accurate then.
Are infinite places a requirement for it to be a ‘true foundation degree’? In which case, which vet courses offer unlimited spots?

I’m confused?!
Reply 13
Original post by VetMedGuru
They told you they don’t offer infinite places?
Seems pretty accurate then.
Are infinite places a requirement for it to be a ‘true foundation degree’? In which case, which vet courses offer unlimited spots?

I’m confused?!


Original post by ALEreapp
I mean they told me at their open day numbers were capped so… the attainment for it to be a legit foundation course is by passing the year. Their website is VERY misleading in saying the course is 6 years when it is not. No genuine foundation (to vet med) program makes you reapply to vet med alongside the course and do an interview etc


If that^^ confuses you unfortunately there’s not a lot I can do to help. I’m sure you’ll reply in another month so you have plenty of time to figure it out 😊
Hi I got an offer for the foundation course and I remember there being a big debate about getting into the vet course after the foundation year did it ever get confirmed? Do you think if you’re on the waitlist forthe vet course does that count as passing theinterview stage or would you have needed the offer?Or do you just have to pass the first year? Soconfused 😂 don’t know whether I’d accept if it’s justto apply again next year when o already have gradesfor the uclan course? Thanks ahha
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Original post by ALEreapp
I just want to ensure you are aware their ‘foundation entry’ is not really a foundation to vet med course as you have to reapply for vet med once on the course. Most foundation programs you automatically end up on the vet program as long as you pass the year but with their program only a small amount can go onto vet med and you have to undergo an interview etc anyway. Just something to be aware of! Have you applied to any others? X
Just wanted to clear up that if you have a place on the foundation course and you achieve the progression criteria (which for us has been 60% overall and passing the MMI) then you will progress into the main course. They do not cap how many can progress from the foundation year which is why they keep it a small year (we have had about 35 students on the course this year). They actually want as many students as possible to progress from the foundation year onto the main course otherwise there’s no point in running a specific foundation year for the course and they would just run a general animal sciences one. There is a cap for how many students can move from the first year biovet course onto the BVMS course which may be where the confusion that only a small number progress has come from. You do have to apply through UCAS to the main course during the year however this is more for them from an administrative purpose so they can keep an eye on how many students between internal and external applicants have accepted offers to the course and it is also so they can see how many students do still want to progress from the foundation year once they’ve started the learning (some people do end up changing their minds and wanting to transition to different courses). No university can offer unlimited places on a foundation year as they have to balance between foundation year students progressing and external applicants to the main course. They use the wording that they cannot ‘guarantee’ a place on the main course as they can’t be seen to be misleading with the foundation course and RCVS requires that the foundation course be conducted at a certain level and that it is not just an ‘easy’ route into a vet degree so that people don’t progress who may then find the main course much more difficult
Reply 16
Original post by ALEreapp
I mean they told me at their open day numbers were capped so… the attainment for it to be a legit foundation course is by passing the year. Their website is VERY misleading in saying the course is 6 years when it is not. No genuine foundation (to vet med) program makes you reapply to vet med alongside the course and do an interview etc
Just wanted to add this from the Keele foundation year page:

“Upon meeting the progression criteria and successfully completing our Foundation Year, you will be eligible to transfer to the Bachelor Veterinary Medicine and Surgery (BVetMS) degree at Harper & Keele Veterinary School.”

So this is common for the foundation years for vet med. Gateway years (such as the ones provided by RVC and Nottingham) are different to a foundation year so when you talk about ‘genuine foundation years’ you may be getting confused with the gateway years which do allow for an automatic transfer upon completion.
Reply 17
Original post by afw00
Just wanted to clear up that if you have a place on the foundation course and you achieve the progression criteria (which for us has been 60% overall and passing the MMI) then you will progress into the main course. They do not cap how many can progress from the foundation year which is why they keep it a small year (we have had about 35 students on the course this year). They actually want as many students as possible to progress from the foundation year onto the main course otherwise there’s no point in running a specific foundation year for the course and they would just run a general animal sciences one. There is a cap for how many students can move from the first year biovet course onto the BVMS course which may be where the confusion that only a small number progress has come from. You do have to apply through UCAS to the main course during the year however this is more for them from an administrative purpose so they can keep an eye on how many students between internal and external applicants have accepted offers to the course and it is also so they can see how many students do still want to progress from the foundation year once they’ve started the learning (some people do end up changing their minds and wanting to transition to different courses). No university can offer unlimited places on a foundation year as they have to balance between foundation year students progressing and external applicants to the main course. They use the wording that they cannot ‘guarantee’ a place on the main course as they can’t be seen to be misleading with the foundation course and RCVS requires that the foundation course be conducted at a certain level and that it is not just an ‘easy’ route into a vet degree so that people don’t progress who may then find the main course much more difficult

Thankyou for clearing this up, obviously they didn’t explain it very well when I originally applied.
Original post by afw00
Just wanted to add this from the Keele foundation year page:

“Upon meeting the progression criteria and successfully completing our Foundation Year, you will be eligible to transfer to the Bachelor Veterinary Medicine and Surgery (BVetMS) degree at Harper & Keele Veterinary School.”

So this is common for the foundation years for vet med. Gateway years (such as the ones provided by RVC and Nottingham) are different to a foundation year so when you talk about ‘genuine foundation years’ you may be getting confused with the gateway years which do allow for an automatic transfer upon completion.

This is not common for actual foundation years, keele is another example of a course that is misleading, it’s a general foundation year that if you don’t pass the reapplication to get onto the vet med course you carry on and get a different degree. Nottingham, RVC and Bristol call them gateway because you must be from a WP background to get onto them, Nottingham also have a preliminary year (exactly the same as their gateway) you just don’t need to be WP. Liverpool also have a ‘foundation’ year and as true to its name all you have to do is complete the year and you move onto the vet med program, you do not need to reapply through ucas and do an interview etc.
HK and UCLan definitely should not have the course length as 6 years given the course is not 6 years it’s 1 year with the prospect of you MAY get onto the vet med program interview and application dependent. Thats like saying if you did a levels in a higher education college and stayed onto study your course was 5 years, it wasnt- your a levels were 2 years and then the degree is 3. They are two different courses.

This is a hill I’m going to die on unfortunately it’s nothing to do with the standard the RCVS require because all the established vet schools manage to do it just fine without making their students reapply. I just think it’s important students are aware as it’s an additional stress you shouldn’t need to go through when completing the year.
(edited 8 months ago)
Is there any advantage to doing the foundation for uclan if you haven’t got an offer after MMI but have the grades already? Considering I’m going to have to interview again next year what’s the point of wasting £9000 for the year? Or are you more likely to pass the MMI while in foundation course?

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