Is Scottish independence a 'good or bad' thing?

How did you come to that bizarre conclusion?

People will put off now that they know they will be voting for tories or tory light at westminster.

You know, not every Tory policy is the work of Satan. They legalised gay marriage before the more socially aware Scottish Parliament.


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I'm not sure if I'm being honest, if maths tutor was using caps then of course I'm not going to condone that. I didn't know that if its true.

You're just a broken record man. Its been stated on here multiple times, and there is government published evidence of what plan B etc is, but that doesn't fit into your agenda, so, blah blah blah

The Times today has the results of a survey showing that 45% of Scots think that the unionists are bluffing about no to a currency union, compared to 40% who take them seriously.

You know, not every Tory policy is the work of Satan. They legalised gay marriage before the more socially aware Scottish Parliament.


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Tartanarmy, as Boab has noticed, for YES supporters it is like banging your head against a brick wall here.

The likes of Midlander and MatureStudent36 have an agenda of repeating the same lies over and over again even if the facts have been pointed out to them in BOLD CAPITALS.

I just hope that Midlander's PhD has nothing to do with numbers because he simply can't get it into his head that England, Wales or Northern Ireland are NOT subsidising Scotland and that is proved by the simple fact that they don't generate enough revenues even to meet their own expenditure, let alone provide a 'gravy train' to Scotland.

Ever since he started posting on this thread, he has been going on about Anglophobia being widespread in Scotland and that independence is all about anti-Englishness, refusing to accept that a very small minority falls into that category.

MatureStudent36 spends his waking life on this thread and all the records he has are stuck.

Most YES posters are soon hounded out of this thread by the likes of Midlander, MatureStudent36 and their hero L i b, not by winning the argument but by repeatedly lying and distorting others' posts.

The No camp's scaremongering is backfiring spectacularly and even the likes mentioned above seem to have been taken aback a little recently.

The Times today has the results of a survey showing that 45% of Scots think that the unionists are bluffing about no to a currency union, compared to 40% who take them seriously.

As I had pointed out a few months ago, a majority of the people of Scotland are no longer going to be taken for fools.

You know, not every Tory policy is the work of Satan. They legalised gay marriage before the more socially aware Scottish Parliament.


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Ah yes the one where almost half of the conservative MPs tried to block the reform? How noble of them.

It would have happened no matter who was in charge

So what. Westminster passed it before Holyrood which professes to be the pillar of fairness and liberalism.


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Tartanarmy, as Boab has noticed, for YES supporters it is like banging your head against a brick wall here.

The likes of Midlander and MatureStudent36 have an agenda of repeating the same lies over and over again even if the facts have been pointed out to them in BOLD CAPITALS.

I just hope that Midlander's PhD has nothing to do with numbers because he simply can't get it into his head that England, Wales or Northern Ireland are NOT subsidising Scotland and that is proved by the simple fact that they don't generate enough revenues even to meet their own expenditure, let alone provide a 'gravy train' to Scotland.

Ever since he started posting on this thread, he has been going on about Anglophobia being widespread in Scotland and that independence is all about anti-Englishness, refusing to accept that a very small minority falls into that category.

MatureStudent36 spends his waking life on this thread and all the records he has are stuck.

Most YES posters are soon hounded out of this thread by the likes of Midlander, MatureStudent36 and their hero L i b, not by winning the argument but by repeatedly lying and distorting others' posts.

The No camp's scaremongering is backfiring spectacularly and even the likes mentioned above seem to have been taken aback a little recently.

The Times today has the results of a survey showing that 45% of Scots think that the unionists are bluffing about no to a currency union, compared to 40% who take them seriously.

As I had pointed out a few months ago, a majority of the people of Scotland are no longer going to be taken for fools.

'So what'? The fact that what, 133 or so MP's in the party that runs this country voted against legalising same sex marriage and you say 'so what'? Yeah you're right.. all this time we have had those Tories all wrong. They are in fact the model which Holyrood and the rest of the world should strive to be

Tartanarmy, as Boab has noticed, for YES supporters it is like banging your head against a brick wall here.

The likes of Midlander and MatureStudent36 have an agenda of repeating the same lies over and over again even if the facts have been pointed out to them in BOLD CAPITALS.

I just hope that Midlander's PhD has nothing to do with numbers because he simply can't get it into his head that England, Wales or Northern Ireland are NOT subsidising Scotland and that is proved by the simple fact that they don't generate enough revenues even to meet their own expenditure, let alone provide a 'gravy train' to Scotland.

Ever since he started posting on this thread, he has been going on about Anglophobia being widespread in Scotland and that independence is all about anti-Englishness, refusing to accept that a very small minority falls into that category.

MatureStudent36 spends his waking life on this thread and all the records he has are stuck.

Most YES posters are soon hounded out of this thread by the likes of Midlander, MatureStudent36 and their hero L i b, not by winning the argument but by repeatedly lying and distorting others' posts.

The No camp's scaremongering is backfiring spectacularly and even the likes mentioned above seem to have been taken aback a little recently.

The Times today has the results of a survey showing that 45% of Scots think that the unionists are bluffing about no to a currency union, compared to 40% who take them seriously.

As I had pointed out a few months ago, a majority of the people of Scotland are no longer going to be taken for fools.

Ah. Maths tutors back. The gift that keeps on giving to the no campaign.

I think you have confused the NO campaign with the irrelevant ramblings of this forum, unless, this is the NO campaign?
Wouldn't surprise I suppose, the grass roots element of NO is pretty pathetic in comparison to the scale of YES, which could be a key factor come September.

But don't you worry, keep telling yourself, people are lying to the pollsters, if that keeps you happy.

The only significant debate in terms of fiscal powers was on the Scottish Parliament's borrowing abilities. Basically, they didn't have any - less than a local authority, for example. The Salmond administration followed the Labour principle of spending to get us out of recession and, despite funding coming from London, suggested that it was a lack of these powers that was buggering the economy.

The Scotland Act 2012 now legislates for fairly significant borrowing powers for Holyrood, although they won't come in for a couple of years yet.

But don't you worry, keep telling yourself, people are lying to the pollsters, if that keeps you happy.

Surely, with the polls continuing to show the no vote in the lead, it must be the pro-independence crowd that hopes the people are lying?

I think you have confused the NO campaign with the irrelevant ramblings of this forum, unless, this is the NO campaign?
Wouldn't surprise I suppose, the grass roots element of NO is pretty pathetic in comparison to the scale of YES, which could be a key factor come September.

But don't you worry, keep telling yourself, people are lying to the pollsters, if that keeps you happy.

Of course not, you don't convince people overnight. By my reckoning we should overtake NO sometime around July

Amazed you use the word rambling in your response.

All the evidence indicates that that the YeSNP campaign has been telling some not inconsiderable lies.