The Miscellaneous Thread

Oh, I didn't know he wasn't signed. That's ridiculous.

I've been thinking the same and pretty much came to the same conclusion like you. We're all 'black' and are all oppressed equally by the super rich, "everywhere there's a chicago", the mention of the Marvin Gaye's anti-Vietnam song and the video showing struggles all over the world.

A bit strange to come out now with this given what Magic has gone through all his life. It does seem like everyone have forgotten what racism is and believe we live in a post racial society.

Still though I like the message and apart from Docs response it's the best response I've seen to all this new wave of racism.

That kind of deliberate and obvious racism isn't Clarkson's style. He's a mild Xenophobe at worst and that's part of his tv persona.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/may/01/jeremy-clarkson-not-use-n-word

That's what he said earlier today.

What he says later today is this.
https://www.facebook.com/LADbible?fref=nf
Check the first bit of that page. Where he says that he actually said the word.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/may/01/jeremy-clarkson-begs-forgiveness-n-word-top-gear
Honestly this is no different than the John Terry case. Slip of the tongue or whatever, still a racist term and he should be punished.

Clarkson recited a rhyme that has a racist term in it, and specifically tried to not say it/mumbled it. Terry called someone a "****ing black ****" to their face. Not even comparable.

I mean as in how it's a slip of the tongue.

I'm not sure you can say Terry's was a slip of the tongue really. It's simply racist abuse, you don't call someone a "****ing black ****" if you're not racist.

But anyway, I'm as much against racism as any other sensible person but I don't think Clarkson's done anything worth punishing. He's said the rhyme and actively tried not to say the offensive word. The way he made a serious video to try and clear it up shows it's not him trying to be offensive as part of his persona, it's a genuine mistake/slip of the tongue.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/may/01/jeremy-clarkson-not-use-n-word

That's what he said earlier today.

What he says later today is this.
https://www.facebook.com/LADbible?fref=nf
Check the first bit of that page. Where he says that he actually said the word.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/may/01/jeremy-clarkson-begs-forgiveness-n-word-top-gear
Honestly this is no different than the John Terry case. Slip of the tongue or whatever, still a racist term and he should be punished.

It was a honest unintentional mistake. I totally agree with MU15. I'm sure why you've mentioned John Terry at all.

LOL at fb comment from Jordan Clarke under the vid

Not really, it can easily be seen as a slip of the tongue, emotions run high in a match of football, both guys were abusing each other and Terry said something that went too far.

Here it's a TV program where he didn't have to say the joke at all. Has clearly said a racial slur which he has done before(calling asian slopes). He's clearly said a racist term.

Also if he said that top gear shouldn't air that part of the program, then he should have just told the BBC to delete it before the daily mirror got a hold of it. His video apology sounds like bull**** tbh.

I was also saying it was similar to Terry because of how he originally categorically denied it at first, then admitted saying it eventually.

Yeah I know but I just think only a racist person would think to add 'black' into such an offensive phrase.

He didn't have to make the joke, but from what I gather he was making a decision, and using "eenie meenie" is common in that scenario.

He probably didn't expect an unaired section of a program to ever make it to the papers. Maybe that's naive but still...

Yeah I know but I just think only a racist person would think to use the word ****** into a nursery rhyme and talk about catching it by the toe. You get what I'm saying. Also find the use of that word and the word toe, because of what they used to do to black peoples toes is quite offensive too.

He was making a decision, but then he could have said tiger, or baby or anything that's not the n word.

The difference is that Terry thought of his phrase himself, whereas Clarkson has probably heard that nursery rhyme hundreds of times as a kid growing up in the 60s. So he didn't "think" to use that word exactly, it was just natural as that's how he's used to it being.

I was raised to call mixed raced people half cast people as my mother always used that term. Do I refer to them as that? No because it's a clearly offensive phrase with offensive roots.

Plus my wife Alicia Keys probably won't be too happy if I were to use that term to describe her.

This kind of **** should be weeded out by the age of 12 nowadays regardless of upbringing. Even if it hasn't been weeded out because of upbringing, with the way that society has improved, surely you should know that a nursery rhyme like that isn't acceptable.

Anyway the quicker the older bigoted lot die off the better for humanity anyway.

If that's an unintentional mistake, then what John Terry said was an unintentional mistake.

Do you not get what I'm saying?