The Arsenal Thread XIX

I think he's going to completely flop next season, this has Young/Downing written all over it. Give it 2 years and he'll be farmed out to someone like Sunderland or Stoke.

Overrated you think?

No it doesn't he couldn't be less of a similar player to young and downing. He's got great technique and decent off the ball movement as well as good work rate pretty ideal for liverpools system.

No it doesn't he couldn't be less of a similar player to young and downing. He's got great technique and decent off the ball movement as well as good work rate pretty ideal for liverpools system.

I'm not comparing them as players, more the circumstances surrounding their transfers. One or two good seasons in an average team which is built around them, then as soon as they're a small fish in a big pond they completely flop. See Andy Carroll, Charlie Adam, Robbie Keane, Wilfred Zaha, Marouane Fellaini, Harry Kewell, Jack Rodwell... you get the point.

He'll be first choice at Hull, it's unlikely that would be the case at Inter. Especially when he has to learn a new language, adjust to a new culture etc. Given that the wages being offered will be very similar, can you really blame him?

Plus, his Dad hardly had the best time at Inter...

I made a comparison to Young earlier today, I can't say with certainty but I think sr90 is making it in the same vein. Its not that they are the same type of player, its that they are mature experienced English players who are already playing at or close to their ceiling. If Lallana has hit his peak, then in his best ever season he will have been good enough for Liverpool's squad, but similar to Young and Downing, if he regresses pretty much at all he then becomes substandard for the level Liverpool require.

I think he'll be more of a success than those two, but I don't see him kicking it up a gear at Liverpool tbh.

The difference I see is young and downing are such one dimensional players and both lack any sort of determination.
Lallana is a player who varies his play a lot more and isn't a typical English player. I also think he will have far more determination to succeed due to how hard he's worked in the various leagues to get where he is now

He's better than pretty much all of those players you've mentioned that flopped. All I can see is him improving in liverpools attacking system. The team isn't built around him at Southampton as well he's given a free role but still has a high defensive work rate so will play pretty much the same at liverpool. Zaha, Rodwell and Carroll are young players that were a gamble. Adam was clearly never good enough for the level he was being asked to play at and Fellaini is playing out of position. Lallana is entering his peak and has been improving steadily for years he's not going to be the star of their team but I won't be surprised to see him get 12-15 goals next season

Harry Kewell from around 2000 would easily fetch £40m in todays market imho, what a player he was for Leeds back then! Lee Bowyer as well would be at least £30m thinking of it.

Kept Leeds up single handedly in 2003 as well. Every club in Europe wanted him that summer.

I'm not sure about this. Young for example, although now you can say he's one dimensional, at Villa he was pfa young player, pfa team of the season, vice captain, played much like Lallana a free role all across the front 3, had penalty taking and free kick duties. He wasn't one dimensional or lacking, or lacking in determination(Euro 2012 campaign).

In fairness young was decent in 11/12 his failure is probably due to his lack of ambition. Every time I've seen him lately though he's been pretty one dimensional with cutting inside and swinging crosses in

Again, I don't think its ambition. His career path isn't one of someone lacking ambition or determination, he was written off at Watford a struggling Championship team.



He's just reverts to type when he struggles. Shoots less, interchanges less, and is more reluctant to use his weak foot.

Arsenal's opening bid for Sanchez was £19.4m according to reports.

LOLing, definitely not worried about you getting him.

What is your opinion on Debuchy?

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