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Original post by SloaneRanger
Making enough money to sustain the lifestyle you want is important, for some people you have advised. They are happy to struggle and live off payday loans i.e Jalebi, but you still need an occupation that pays a decent wage.


wnba is so ****
Original post by malachitheone
The thing is I really don't want to do a lab based job, well not any of the ones I've seen anyway. And the vast majority require IBMS accreditation which I don't have. I did biomed with the intention of going on to medicine and for the moment that looks well out of the question.



Well if you're going to be fussy about it then of course there are no jobs out there. At the stage of needing your first job you get a job and take all the experience you can from it. Once you've got experience then you can start being more picky about what you do.
Original post by James222
Lots of 2:2 grad schemes but too late for 2014 entry
Search for jobs on company websites not milk round or reed


I feel this might be the best option too, however I need to work out which companies in particular catch my eye. Rather than just looking down FTSE 250/100 and checking out those companies.


Original post by hothedgehog
Well if you're going to be fussy about it then of course there are no jobs out there. At the stage of needing your first job you get a job and take all the experience you can from it. Once you've got experience then you can start being more picky about what you do.


I would hardly say that I'm being fussy, I simply do not want a laboratory job. It never appealed to me before, and whilst I enjoyed a very select few practicals during uni I know I would dread to come in each day if it was my job.
Also, minus the debates and whatnot. It does appear then that these jobs are the main graduate roles going with the exception of the schemes.

If not graduate jobs what are other prospective things that can be applied to? I seriously do not see very many jobs, which are classed as 'entry-level' or for people without experience, advertised.
Original post by malachitheone
Also, minus the debates and whatnot. It does appear then that these jobs are the main graduate roles going with the exception of the schemes.

If not graduate jobs what are other prospective things that can be applied to? I seriously do not see very many jobs, which are classed as 'entry-level' or for people without experience, advertised.


try searching for jobs that begin with Assistant or Junior
Reply 45
I'm finding myself in a similar situation. I've graduated with a 2:1 in Psychology. But all I can seem to find are sales and recruitment style jobs. Especially at this time of year, when most hospitality and retail graduate jobs I want to apply for are no longer taking applications. I've looked through all the usual job sites, direct.gov, and even signed up to graduate agencies.
I originally wanted to study to become an educational psychologist. I need to work as either a teaching assistant or assistant psychologist, but its very difficult to get a job in either because you need a qualification now for the former.
Original post by o-glez
I'm finding myself in a similar situation. I've graduated with a 2:1 in Psychology. But all I can seem to find are sales and recruitment style jobs. Especially at this time of year, when most hospitality and retail graduate jobs I want to apply for are no longer taking applications. I've looked through all the usual job sites, direct.gov, and even signed up to graduate agencies.
I originally wanted to study to become an educational psychologist. I need to work as either a teaching assistant or assistant psychologist, but its very difficult to get a job in either because you need a qualification now for the former.


Is that the PGCE you're referring to? If it's what you really want to do for the prerequisite to become an educational psychologist then stick at it! Never know, you may end up enjoying it so much that you wish to take up teaching full time
Reply 47
Original post by malachitheone
Is that the PGCE you're referring to? If it's what you really want to do for the prerequisite to become an educational psychologist then stick at it! Never know, you may end up enjoying it so much that you wish to take up teaching full time


No, its a doctorate of educational psychology. Its a 3year funded course. It just seems a little frustrating having to potentially to pay to get on another course to get a teaching assistant job.
Original post by o-glez
No, its a doctorate of educational psychology. Its a 3year funded course. It just seems a little frustrating having to potentially to pay to get on another course to get a teaching assistant job.


I totally understand the frustration. In my eyes throughout the entirety of the education process and the first year or two after finishing you're made to jump through a ridiculous number of hoops - many of which are simply there as a money making scheme for some company.
Original post by o-glez
No, its a doctorate of educational psychology. Its a 3year funded course. It just seems a little frustrating having to potentially to pay to get on another course to get a teaching assistant job.


Traditional full-time teaching assistant jobs are like gold-dust and that's why you won't get near one without a teaching assistant qualification. But you don't need the qualification. If you go via an agency they just look for competent graduates with a bit of experience with young people (volunteering, Scouts etc). They'll find you some temporary assignments and as long as you're competent and friendly one school or the other will usually eventually keep you on for a few weeks or a few months, either leading to a job there or at least giving you the experience you need to get one of the gold-dust jobs. Just apply to any of the ads that these agencies constantly churn out on Reed etc. Yes the ads look a bit spammy but I worked in one of these consultancies and we were a) genuinely desperate for good eager graduates looking to be teachers, ed psychs etc. and b) did get lots of graduates teaching assistant work!
A degree can be a false promise nowadays we are told oh dont worry get a degree you will get a good job, house, bla bla bla everything will be fine but the reality is so much different. Experience will always triumph
Original post by malachitheone

I had seen these, training contracts starting from 2016. However I don't understand why they always start in 2 years time


Because in that time you'd be doing the GDL and LPC. As it stands, you are completely unsuited and unqualified to start a training contract at present
Reply 52
I think its something a lot of recent psychology graduates are finding a lot of frustration with. We're told about all these great careers in psychology that are available (clinical, educational, occupational) and that they all basically require some form of work experience. What they don't tell us is that most of the jobs we must gain that work experience in (I.e support worker, teaching assistant etc) require some of form of training. That's really frustrating to be decieved like that. Maybe deceived is a strong word but that's how I feel. So I'm applying for retail, hospitality and recruitment style graduate jobs/schemes. That's not a bad thing...they're all things I'd enjoy and have experience in. Its just having to explain why I'm not contuniuing with psychology which I don't like.
Yeah, I too had to constantly explain why I didn't want to pursue a lab based job having done a science degree
Reply 54
Hi how has this worked out for you? X
Original post by walkers38
Hmm its making me scared. But I have a distinct plan to become a chartered accountant so it shouldn't be a problem hopefully
Original post by malachitheone
^^ Okay I don't necessarily believe this statement, however I'm a biomed grad as of this year and it appears that sales and recruitment are the only jobs that are going for grads unless you have a specific degree (ie medicine, dentistry, construction etc.)

How do you find jobs that are different to this? The only thing I've been contacted for via job boards etc is sales or recruitment. Is this really all that there is for a graduate job nowadays?

I understand with both career paths you can move on up into management and director roles, so you obviously aren't stuck with the same thing forever...but it just seems that these are the only open doors.

Finance, consulting, law... these all have like a quad trillion different jobs within themselves. How can you think Recuritment and Sales are the only jobs? Like, what planet are you living on?
Original post by malachitheone
Do you have an accounting/business degree? Most of the things I'd seen related to graduate trainee accounting jobs require those degrees so obviously with a science degree I miss out

Accounting doesn’t require an accountancy or business degree... how have you got this far and yet know so little about the job market?
Original post by malachitheone
Sorry I should have specified, graduating with a 2:2, but also these schemes are always massively over subscribed so for those that are unsuccessful what could they do?


I had seen these, training contracts starting from 2016. However I don't understand why they always start in 2 years time, what do you do in the 2 years inbetween for money? I thought the law conversion was done once the contract had started.

Law conversion course is a year. If you’re unsuccessful, that’s the same with every job, it’s an irrelevant point to raise. Be successful. Training contract is after law conversion.
Original post by SloaneRanger
Right you do know consultancy is sales i.e. pitching to clients, retail lmao your incredibly naive aldi - sales targets (kpi's)...


Project management, financial modelling, operations, implementation.... every job has sales in it if you look hard enough. Consulting is advising a business through idea generation + implementation, don’t call someone naive when you only go onto to look foolish.
Reply 56
Original post by That'sGreat
Finance, consulting, law... these all have like a quad trillion different jobs within themselves. How can you think Recuritment and Sales are the only jobs? Like, what planet are you living on?

Accounting doesn’t require an accountancy or business degree... how have you got this far and yet know so little about the job market?

Law conversion course is a year. If you’re unsuccessful, that’s the same with every job, it’s an irrelevant point to raise. Be successful. Training contract is after law conversion.


Project management, financial modelling, operations, implementation.... every job has sales in it if you look hard enough. Consulting is advising a business through idea generation + implementation, don’t call someone naive when you only go onto to look foolish.


Slow off the mark.

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