A shocking experience with dentistry/medicine students!!
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Original post by alevelzzz
Really? I've never heard a med student say that before about dentistry students
Me neither.
Dentistry is actually more competitive to get into (more applicants per place due to less places existing).
Original post by alevelzzz
Really? I've never heard a med student say that before about dentistry students
The student in question was a particularly snobby one. No one liked them
Original post by Jenniferann232
The student in question was a particularly snobby one. No one liked them
Classic, probably someone whos parents spent £100k+ for their schooling to get into university
Not exactly an achievement.
Original post by Scott.M
Me neither.
Dentistry is actually more competitive to get into (more applicants per place due to less places existing).
Dentistry is actually more competitive to get into (more applicants per place due to less places existing).
I don't know about that. Whatever the difference is, its safe to say its very small.
Original post by Scott.M
Me neither.
Dentistry is actually more competitive to get into (more applicants per place due to less places existing).
Dentistry is actually more competitive to get into (more applicants per place due to less places existing).
http://www.ucas.com/data-analysis/data-resources/data-tables/subject/applications-choices-acceptances-and-ratios-subject-group-2013
Medicine: 11.2 applications per acceptance
Dentistry: 9.7 applications per acceptance
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Original post by Chief Wiggum
http://www.ucas.com/data-analysis/data-resources/data-tables/subject/applications-choices-acceptances-and-ratios-subject-group-2013
Medicine: 11.2 applications per acceptance
Dentistry: 9.7 applications per acceptance
Medicine: 11.2 applications per acceptance
Dentistry: 9.7 applications per acceptance
wow that info is pretty cool. Interesting how dentistry = medicine in 08 and dentistry was more competitive in 09/10. Interesting to find out why
IIRC for 2014 entry they reduced the entry to dental schools by 10% so it will probably be a lot closer again from this year.
But yeah, pretty much the same
Im assuming the reason why the pharmacy etc also have a high ratio is because of 5th choices for medics/dentists too?
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Original post by alevelzzz
wow that info is pretty cool. Interesting how dentistry = medicine in 08 and dentistry was more competitive in 09/10. Interesting to find out why
IIRC for 2014 entry they reduced the entry to dental schools by 10% so it will probably be a lot closer again from this year.
But yeah, pretty much the same
IIRC for 2014 entry they reduced the entry to dental schools by 10% so it will probably be a lot closer again from this year.
But yeah, pretty much the same
Yeah they're very very similar.
Original post by Chief Wiggum
Yeah they're very very similar.
Im assuming the pharmacy etc section is slightly skewed because of the number of 5th choices for medics/dentists?
Original post by alevelzzz
Im assuming the pharmacy etc section is slightly skewed because of the number of 5th choices for medics/dentists?
Maybe, I don't really know.
Original post by Chief Wiggum
http://www.ucas.com/data-analysis/data-resources/data-tables/subject/applications-choices-acceptances-and-ratios-subject-group-2013
Medicine: 11.2 applications per acceptance
Dentistry: 9.7 applications per acceptance
Medicine: 11.2 applications per acceptance
Dentistry: 9.7 applications per acceptance
Ahh fair that is interesting information!
Original post by alevelzzz
wow that info is pretty cool. Interesting how dentistry = medicine in 08 and dentistry was more competitive in 09/10. Interesting to find out why
IIRC for 2014 entry they reduced the entry to dental schools by 10% so it will probably be a lot closer again from this year.
But yeah, pretty much the same
Im assuming the reason why the pharmacy etc also have a high ratio is because of 5th choices for medics/dentists too?
IIRC for 2014 entry they reduced the entry to dental schools by 10% so it will probably be a lot closer again from this year.
But yeah, pretty much the same
Im assuming the reason why the pharmacy etc also have a high ratio is because of 5th choices for medics/dentists too?
They cut the number of places a second time so it is a 15% decrease now I heard, D:
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Original post by Foo.mp3
Students of medicine/dentistry look down on their less studious/scientifically minded peers? No way!? 
Pretty sure students of medicine also look down on students of dentistry btw
If ever you encounter such snottiness congratulate them on their achievements then ask them when the last time they had an original thought was, that should disarm the douches
Pretty sure students of medicine also look down on students of dentistry btw
If ever you encounter such snottiness congratulate them on their achievements then ask them when the last time they had an original thought was, that should disarm the douches
The only reason why medical students might look down on dentistry students is because they think dentistry students are in it for the money. Otherwise they study for the same amount of time, entry requirements are the same, basically the same application process etc, etc
Original post by Scott.M
They cut the number of places a second time so it is a 15% decrease now I heard, D:
They cut the number of places a second time so it is a 15% decrease now I heard, D:
Where did you hear that from?
Original post by alevelzzz
Where did you hear that from?
Friend on my course. I trust him as he always keeps up to date with things like this and has always been right about this type of thing.
Atm at a dental practice there will be about 3 dentists per hygienist, but the government is looking to swap that around to 3 hygienists per dentist. Hence they are decreasing the number of dentistry places and increasing the number of hygienist places.
In response the hygienist course is reportedly being increased from 2 years to 3 years.
Dentistry is changing... a lot.
Eventually dentists will only be carrying out the complex stuff, whereas hygienists will be doing your check ups.I believe they are doing this because it costs less to train hygienists.
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Original post by Scott.M
Friend on my course. I trust him as he always keeps up to date with things like this and has always been right about this type of thing.
Atm at a dental practice there will be about 3 dentists per hygienist, but the government is looking to swap that around to 3 hygienists per dentist. Hence they are decreasing the number of dentistry places and increasing the number of hygienist places.
In response the hygienist course is reportedly being increased from 2 years to 3 years.
Dentistry is changing... a lot. Eventually dentists will only be carrying out the complex stuff, whereas hygienists will be doing your check ups.
I believe they are doing this because it costs less to train hygienists.
Atm at a dental practice there will be about 3 dentists per hygienist, but the government is looking to swap that around to 3 hygienists per dentist. Hence they are decreasing the number of dentistry places and increasing the number of hygienist places.
In response the hygienist course is reportedly being increased from 2 years to 3 years.
Dentistry is changing... a lot.
Eventually dentists will only be carrying out the complex stuff, whereas hygienists will be doing your check ups.I believe they are doing this because it costs less to train hygienists.
Doesn't sound too great for dentists then... maybe unemployment?
Original post by alevelzzz
Doesn't sound too great for dentists then... maybe unemployment?
Actually on the contrary we will probably be earning more than ever due to only doing complex stuff.
They are monitoring it slowly to ensure no dentist/hygienist unemployment - As they train us both so don't want to waste their money. The only way there could be unemployment is if they suddenly trained an absolute ton of hygienists (so that there would be enough of them to replace us), but they won't do that as they don't want us unemployed.
I believe we will just see the number of dentistry places at uni slowly decline and the number of hygienist places slowly increase until most retiring dentists are being replaced by hygienists, with there being enough dentists to ensure every practice has a sufficient amount.
Can see it causing controversy though as practises in kinda obscure areas (so for example not in london) sometimes find it hard to attract dentists (as how many unemployed dentists do you know?), and this will only make it worse for them.
Original post by Foo.mp3
Only for core courses - some medicine courses are longer, and then there's the additional post-quali training requirements, typically more onerous for medics
The standard course is 5 years for both, dentists who choose to work in hospitals train for the same amount of time as doctors to become consultants and what not.
Theres no way a medic can look down on a dentist, GPs and GDPs are basically synonymous.
You could argue dentists laugh at medics since they earn a great deal more than them despite working half their hours.
Original post by alevelzzz
The standard course is 5 years for both, dentists who choose to work in hospitals train for the same amount of time as doctors to become consultants and what not.
Theres no way a medic can look down on a dentist, GPs and GDPs are basically synonymous.
You could argue dentists laugh at medics since they earn a great deal more than them despite working half their hours.
Theres no way a medic can look down on a dentist, GPs and GDPs are basically synonymous.
You could argue dentists laugh at medics since they earn a great deal more than them despite working half their hours.
Dentist consultant training is shorter tbf, but it makes sense since we already spend 5 years essentially specialising at dental school, so any further specialisation isn't going to take as long as in medicine
Original post by Foo.mp3
The amount of time spent in post-qual training depends on the specialism (many medical specialisms require much longer periods) and hospital training is not typically nearly as onerous for dentists
lol, im 100% sure oral surgery is more onerous than dermatology or radiology for example.
Original post by sbj
If you meet those kind of students, just tell them you study maths. It works perfect. Because they are below Mathematicians/Physicist by far and they know it.
This is the funniest joke I have seen in ages.
Let me tell you something, I'm a med student with 100% in all my further math modules, yes, every single one of them. I doubt I would find many math/physics students who achieved that at my university.
Most medical students have sufficient grades to get into Math or Physics at university, so why would we feel below Mathematicians/Physicists?
Even if what they learn in university is "academically" harder than what we do (which I doubt, medicine and math/physics requires a different mindset and neither is harder than the other), don't worry because we won't feel we are "below" them, since we know we are perfectly capable to get that place and study the same course and likely to do better than them if we did choose to.
Your post has completely no logic
Original post by sky_med
This is the funniest joke I have seen in ages.
Let me tell you something, I'm a med student with 100% in all my further math modules, yes, every single one of them. I doubt I would find many math/physics students who achieved that at my university.
Most medical students have sufficient grades to get into Math or Physics at university, so why would we feel below Mathematicians/Physicists?
Even if what they learn in university is "academically" harder than what we do (which I doubt, medicine and math/physics requires a different mindset and neither is harder than the other), don't worry because we won't feel we are "below" them, since we know we are perfectly capable to get that place and study the same course and likely to do better than them if we did choose to.
Your post has completely no logic
Let me tell you something, I'm a med student with 100% in all my further math modules, yes, every single one of them. I doubt I would find many math/physics students who achieved that at my university.
Most medical students have sufficient grades to get into Math or Physics at university, so why would we feel below Mathematicians/Physicists?
Even if what they learn in university is "academically" harder than what we do (which I doubt, medicine and math/physics requires a different mindset and neither is harder than the other), don't worry because we won't feel we are "below" them, since we know we are perfectly capable to get that place and study the same course and likely to do better than them if we did choose to.
Your post has completely no logic
The majority of medical/dental students at the majority of universities will be better at maths than those studying maths at university
E.G Sheffield only asks for AAB-ABB for maths, id argue a large number of medics/dentists got A*s in maths a levels.
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