MH17 flight down in Ukraine

That was precisely my point as for the international body have you not been following the news? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/mh17-victims-crash-site-anger-russia-grows

"Borodai said that the Donetsk People's Republic was expecting a team of 81 international experts, including 20 Malaysians specialists, who would "probably arrive tomorrow evening". The rebel leader said he did not know why the international community had not responded quicker to the incident. "I cannot understand why the experts cannot come here immediately, we are not an island, it should be easy for them to come here," he told press."

No, that was my point.

Your point was Ukrainians who want to use public outrage as a pretext for war so they can seize the Crimea back, which is idiotic.

I don't understand wh...........sts can move around freely?)

I am saying a Ukrainian isn't going to be stupid enough to start a war of Crimea in any instance.

Russian Defence ministry delivered some hard hitting facts on RT news. The information was very damning I have to say. The Ukranian goverment have a lot of explaining to do.

This is the first solid evidence that has been uncovered from this massacre.

Post the evidence please.

Post the evidence please.

Well you know, the Russians have had 96+hrs to come up with smoke and mirrors and as always, these are the tactics Putin likes to play the most: sow seeds of doubt and exploit weakness by dividing the international community, deny everything, delay, delay, delay.

There are a few square miles in Eastern Ukraine, full of solid evidence, which the international community has been kept from accessing while the Putin's stories are concocted and anything incriminating is destroyed.

Russia are saying there was a Ukrainian SU25 near the jet before it was taken down

Russia are saying there was a Ukrainian SU25 near the jet before it was taken down

Ugh, Malaysian Airlines are doing themselves no favours if what THIS article says is true (It's in French btw). If you don't want to read it, long story short, yesterday a London-bound plane from Kuala Lumpur flew over Syrian airspace.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2014/07/21/97001-20140721FILWWW00223-malaysia-airlines-fait-un-detour-par-la-syrie.php

Ugh, Malaysian Airlines are doing themselves no favours if what THIS article says is true (It's in French btw). If you don't want to read it, long story short, yesterday a London-bound plane from Kuala Lumpur flew over Syrian airspace.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2014/07/21/97001-20140721FILWWW00223-malaysia-airlines-fait-un-detour-par-la-syrie.php

Well you know, the Russians have had 96+hrs to come up with smoke and mirrors and as always, these are the tactics Putin likes to play the most: sow seeds of doubt and exploit weakness by dividing the international community, deny everything, delay, delay, delay.

There are a few square miles in Eastern Ukraine, full of solid evidence, which the international community has been kept from accessing while the Putin's stories are concocted and anything incriminating is destroyed.

Are you following the Ukranian nationalist sentiment? I'm not accusing them of fascism but one cannot deny the ultranationalism of many of its members (it has been acknowledged by many political scientists), there has yet to be any details from the Ukraine government agreeing to the federalisation of the Ukraine (the Russian three point plan, google it if you wish). Not to mention Ukraine have already cut water and electricity to many eastern areas, it seems to me that Ukraine wants its land back.

Stop rambling. That has nothing to do with what I said.

The Ukrainians do not need or want a pretext to enter Crimea because such a move would be idiotic.

Sure! Deny all the evidence, like the UN meeting to discuss deploying Nato troops to remove the bodies, like the Ukrainian government disrupting the investigation with its 'self-organised' militas (are you actually reading the news?).

I'm not going to reply to you anymore as you don't understand the situation enough, which is why you've completely dismissed my posts and responded with one line 'blah blah who needs evidence' posts everytime.

I am rambling because civilians are being killed, and entire nations being victimised before we have facts, because of idiots like you who fail to exercise basic critical thought.

Ummm, why would the UN do that given that they have no jurisdiction over NATO? Surely the UN would use their own peacekeepers and other organisations to do that...