Ex-Muslim, now Atheist - ASK ME ANYTHING!
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Original post by tania<3
It's pretty wrong.
Firstly - that chronological order they say is correct? Completely wrong.
"Blood clot " - no, a blood clot is a clump of blood, whereas the embryo is far more complex than that.
"Suspended" - in all honesty, it's not suspended. Connecting stalk's function isn't to hold the baby in mid air, its just the name given to the part of the placenta which becomes the umbilical cord. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecting_stalk. It's function to become the umbilical cord.
"Leech" - I don't see the resemblance LOL. Internal structure of a leech looks nothing like the neural tube of an embryo... at 22 days as well, it changes really quickly after that!
Basically, I feel really sad when I see videos like this. It would be better to accept that the lack of technology back in those days meant that there was less scientific knowledge known, rather than try to misconstrue vague phrases said in the Quran to what we know now.
Firstly - that chronological order they say is correct? Completely wrong.
"Blood clot " - no, a blood clot is a clump of blood, whereas the embryo is far more complex than that.
"Suspended" - in all honesty, it's not suspended. Connecting stalk's function isn't to hold the baby in mid air, its just the name given to the part of the placenta which becomes the umbilical cord. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecting_stalk. It's function to become the umbilical cord.
"Leech" - I don't see the resemblance LOL. Internal structure of a leech looks nothing like the neural tube of an embryo... at 22 days as well, it changes really quickly after that!
Basically, I feel really sad when I see videos like this. It would be better to accept that the lack of technology back in those days meant that there was less scientific knowledge known, rather than try to misconstrue vague phrases said in the Quran to what we know now.
The similarities are uncanning.
"Firstly - that chronological order they say is correct? Completely wrong."
How exactly......
"Suspended" - in all honesty, it's not suspended. Connecting stalk's function isn't to hold the baby in mid air, its just the name given to the part of the placenta which becomes the umbilical cord. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecting_stalk. It's function to become the umbilical cord.
The extraembryonic coelom expands to form a large chorionic cavity, within which the embryo and the attached amniotic and yolk sac are suspended by the connecting stalk."
http://www.embryo.chronolab.com/formation.htm
"Basically, I feel really sad when I see videos like this. It would be better to accept that the lack of technology back in those days meant that there was less scientific knowledge known, rather than try to misconstrue vague phrases said in the Quran to what we know now."
The fact of the matter is that it is irrational to think an illiterate man living in a society with virtually no science.
Original post by BullViagra
believing youtube videos that appear to look clever and factual is the greatest shortcoming of many "intellectual" muslims today. please try to argue yourself instead of being lazy and letting a video do it for you.
Please don't butt in if you don't know what your talking about.
She said she was a medic and an ex-muslim so I wanted to see her opnion on this.
Everthing in that video is factual. They used:
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Quranic verses
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Qoutes from well known scientist
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Pictures
Tell me how is this not factual.
Instead of spouting your mouth about why don't you argue why it is incorrect or not factual.
Original post by james22
You said that Allah does all he can to prevent people from going to hell. If people are still ending up in hell that means that either Allah is not doing all that he can, or that he is not omnipitent.
If he was omnipitent he could snap his fingers and get rid of hell in an instant.
If he was omnipitent he could snap his fingers and get rid of hell in an instant.
It's all complicated.
I'll quote someone more knowledgeable in this discussion:
ash92:)
Salaam Bro Jamess22 here wants to know why Allah sends people to hell if he's the most Merciful. He believes a most merciful God would never said anybody to hell. So therefore believes he's 'more merciful' since he doesn't want anybody to go to hell and therefore thinks this contradicts the Qur'an.. Please clarify the Islamic perspective. Thank you. 
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Original post by james22
You said that Allah does all he can to prevent people from going to hell. If people are still ending up in hell that means that either Allah is not doing all that he can, or that he is not omnipitent.
If he was omnipitent he could snap his fingers and get rid of hell in an instant.
If he was omnipitent he could snap his fingers and get rid of hell in an instant.
"You said that Allah does all he can to prevent people from going to hell."
Lool who said this.......
Human's have free will, an important component of Islam, if they choose to commit sin or reject the word of god then undoubtaly they will go to hell.
Original post by BullViagra
circumcision is deeply entrenched within islam whether culturally or religiously, it is seen as sunnah and muslims are expected to follow that.
circumcision is deeply entrenched within islam whether culturally or religiously, it is seen as sunnah and muslims are expected to follow that.
Circumcision is only expected for men not women..................
Circumsion has existed long before Islam ever existed.
Original post by ridwan12
"You said that Allah does all he can to prevent people from going to hell."
Lool who said this.......
Human's have free will, an important component of Islam, if they choose to commit sin or reject the word of god then undoubtaly they will go to hell.
Lool who said this.......
Human's have free will, an important component of Islam, if they choose to commit sin or reject the word of god then undoubtaly they will go to hell.
If God can stop these people from going to hell, but does not, then he is not as merciful as I am (since I would do everything I could to stop people from going to hell).
Original post by h3isenberg
So another person can't tell you what to do but Islam, a man made creation, can?
Do you have proof it is man made..
Original post by Prince Dunlop
I am sorry you never felt strongly about Islam. Inshallah Allah will guide you to the correct path once again.
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Allah doesn't exist. There is no path
Original post by ridwan12
Do you have proof it is man made..
The burden of proof is upon the person who says allah/god/zeus/krishna/flyingspaghettisaurus made their book
Original post by BullViagra
this supposed 15/16 yo just killed you in a debate that you wanted so i dont think you have a leg to stand on to be condescending
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
You call that a debate
Original post by james22
If God can stop these people from going to hell, but does not, then he is not as merciful as I am (since I would do everything I could to stop people from going to hell).
Well your not God.
Original post by TheAnusFiles
Allah doesn't exist. There is no path
you just keep telling yourself that.
Original post by TheAnusFiles
The burden of proof is upon the person who says allah/god/zeus/krishna/flyingspaghettisaurus made their book
It is also on those who claim God doesn't exist. They must come up with awnsers aswell.
Original post by ridwan12
It is also on those who claim God doesn't exist. They must come up with awnsers aswell.
No it isn't. Do you have to prove that Odin doesn't exist?
Original post by mightyfrog2_10
you just keep telling yourself that.
Hahahaha I'll enjoy my life, and when I die nothing will happen to either of us
Original post by TheAnusFiles
Hahahaha I'll enjoy my life, and when I die nothing will happen to either of us
Good for you, keep telling yourself that.
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Original post by TheAnusFiles
No it isn't. Do you have to prove that Odin doesn't exist?
No becuase the Qur'an does that for me.
In all seriousness, I have never met someone who claims odin exist so no.
Original post by ridwan12
Do you have proof it is man made..
Do you have any proof it isn't? Funny that you'll ask about proof for this but evidence against creationism is instantly disregarded because that contradicts the Qu'ran.
What does the Qu'ran say about neanderthals, homo erectus, homo habilis?
Original post by ridwan12
No becuase the Qur'an does that for me.
In all seriousness, I have never met someone who claims odin exist so no.
In all seriousness, I have never met someone who claims odin exist so no.
But how do you know that the quran wasn't just made up like every other religious text
Original post by ridwan12
Well your not God.
I never claimed to be, I claimed to be more merciful than Allah, which contradicts the Quran.
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