If Islam is a religion that opposes murder, then what's with all the killings?

. Also the prophet broke the pagan idols in the Kaaba because the Kaaba was originally for worshipping Allah (Abrahamic God) so that is the reason behind him destroying the pagan idols.

the kabaa was only ever known and recorded as an arab pagan shrine ( both historically and locally) it has no reference to islamm whatsoever apart form what mohammed claimed. hence why he had to go to war to seize it.

The prophet Abraham and his son i think ismael built it. Otherwise there is no reason that we would be facing it when we pray. This was built as the house of God and was later an arab pagan shrine.

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What I struggle to understand about the religion is that ISIS claim to be creating an Islamic state across Syria and Turkey and other countries in that region, they are doing so by killing and slaughtering innocent people and anyone that stands up to them. They say they do this in the name of Allah, yet the Quran states that murder is wrong.

ISIS see the West and other Muslims in it as their enemies. The majority of Muslims have just as much to fear from ISIS as the West and rest of the world do. The point is that most Muslims interpret the Koran in a very different way to terrorists.

It sounds odd to me because I know about these extremists trying to radicalise all these good and normal Muslims, yet somehow, even with all the praying they do and reading of the Quran they do, some will still become terrorists knowing full well that murder in their religion is wrong.

In the Koran is says that those that die fighting for Allah will go to the best heaven. Of course most Muslims also use common sense and know that mass murder and rape, in the supposed name of Allah, is not likely to go down with Allah a merciful god.

ISIS on the other hand seem to a) either believe their ridiculous stance or b) not believe it but use it as a tool to recruit foolish young men and women.

Sorry if this didn't make too much sense, I just don't have enough time to write everything I felt like saying on this topic so I had to compact it all.

I should probably apologise in advance if anything I have said turns out to be wrong and also in case anyone of the Islam religion is offended by this as from reading it back, it sounds a bit blunt to me.

ISIS use Islam as an excuse for killing. The West use excuses such as "weapons of mass destruction" that were not real in Iraq and now Syria to justify intervention. The world is a place where stupid things can be justified. Look at the Nazis-they claimed they were defending themselves from Jews during the Holocuast, that they had to act to save Germany..

Strictly in my personal view, when you actually look at what the media say it isn't true. Look what happened after Tunisia and all the criticism of Islam; then you think-Tunisia is a Muslim country and under attack. Makes you realise that all the people who say the Koran is responsible for the murders are very wrong really in my view.

Where does Islam ever oppose murder? New to me, the Qur'an is full of teacings of murder of infidels.


Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing..."
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These are verses that were revealed whilst war was taking place. You need to understand that verses in the Qur'an were revealed as things where happening today.

Just get over the fact that many don't like your religion. Get. Over. It.

Islam is so tangled that you had to make a thread about it.

so tangled in violence

We, with the benefit of being educated liberally, can criticise all the actions and rightly, we do. But the pinpointing of Islam and the backlash and lack of respect of those who follow the religion peacefully is a shame. Without tolerance, humans cannot progress.

Those that don't respect are simply immoral people, just as those with extremist beliefs are.

Sunni and Shia divisions. You get Christians and catholics but you don't see them shooting down each other.

These are verses that were revealed whilst war was taking place. You need to understand that verses in the Qur'an were revealed as things where happening.

WMD 'theory' and nazi theory have all been disproved and debunked by wider society - however islam has not been condemned by muslim society . it hasnt even been challenged in terms of its edicts that inspire musism accross the globe to commit acts of depravity (IS being jsut one such group) hence the global probelm with islam


what do mean in reference to tunisia? tunisa suffered an islamic terrorist attack ( as various places in the world have). there is a root cause to them all and it rhymes with Mislam

What I struggle to understand about the religion is that ISIS claim to be creating an Islamic state across Syria and Turkey and other countries in that region, they are doing so by killing and slaughtering innocent people and anyone that stands up to them. They say they do this in the name of Allah, yet the Quran states that murder is wrong.

It sounds odd to me because I know about these extremists trying to radicalise all these good and normal Muslims, yet somehow, even with all the praying they do and reading of the Quran they do, some will still become terrorists knowing full well that murder in their religion is wrong.

Sorry if this didn't make too much sense, I just don't have enough time to write everything I felt like saying on this topic so I had to compact it all.

I should probably apologise in advance if anything I have said turns out to be wrong and also in case anyone of the Islam religion is offended by this as from reading it back, it sounds a bit blunt to me.