The Liverpool FC Thread XIV

All I hope is Klopp can get out as much of the deadwood as quickly as possible and bring in his players in January so that they can use the remainder of the season to fit in. In all seriousness, given the time of this sacking, I really can't see a top 4 push this season but you never know. If FSG think Klopp is going to come in here and work miracles with little money then they're deluded.

All I hope is Klopp can get out as much of the deadwood as quickly as possible and bring in his players in January so that they can use the remainder of the season to fit in. In all seriousness, given the time of this sacking, I really can't see a top 4 push this season but you never know. If FSG think Klopp is going to come in here and work miracles with little money then they're deluded.

I love how overwhelming the news is the suggest Klopp will be our manager.

It's almost like the papers are preparing to troll us when it ends up being Big Sam.

I think it's because Klopp is available and FSG weren't likely to sack Rodgers unless they had a replacement almost sorted.

Don't forget that FSG wanted Klopp 3 years ago but he turned them down.

Ancelotti doesn't fit the FSG model and De Boer is at another club so unlikely that FSG would've sounded him out.

True, it's just hard for me to get too optimistic just yet.
Would be classic Liverpool to give us all this expectation and then to hire an equal quality manager (or worse!)

It seems to me that if we can't sort something with Klopp, it'll be Ancelotti.
Surely if there were any other major candidates, somebody would have reported something?

I don't think FSG would've sacked Rodgers if Klopp hadn't informally agreed to take over.

@OptaJoe
51.6% - Brendan Rodgers has the second best win percentage of any PL manager for Liverpool (after Benitez, 55.3%). Departed.

i really hope you're right

Although that's an interesting stat and as weird as this sounds, i feel like it still plays in to the inconsistent manager theory.
It's shewed by the SAS season where we almost won the league - Liverpool in the PL have not been a title winning side so having a season where we win a very high proportion of games will in some part compensate for the season(s) where we've been bloody awful, making his overall stat look decent.

Problem is that he draws 25% and loses 25% during his PL time.

Yea be interesting to see his win percentages per season.

2012/13 - 38 16 13 9 (42%)
2013/14 - 38 26 6 6 (68%)
2014/15 - 38 18 8 12 (47%)
201515 - 8 3 3 2 (37.5%)

Not that easy to read..

Exactly; the top managers don't lose that often.
Precisely - he has one season where he wins 68% of the games which makes up for the other two which are below half.

In any case, i don't blame FSG for getting rid of him but i do blame them for the timing. It's a little confusing.
Perhaps Klopp wasn't ready to come before the season start and only now has he decided it's time?

Do we really have that much deadwood bar Lovren though?

Allen.

Mamadou Sakho's Merseyside derby:

37/38 passes completed
100% tackles won
75% headers won
7 clearances
1 block
Beast.

Yea I think it's exactly that on timing. No one was prepared to join us in the summer (or perhaps FSG hadn't really sounded it out) whereas Klopp was quite clear he was taking a break.

So FSG are probably trying to be opportune by signing Klopp now but equally Klopp is probably thinking it's a great time to sign up while morale is low and the perception is we're in a crap position even though he'd join and have every chance to win any of the cups + potentially finish 4th with Chelsea a fair bit behind.

He'd get a bit more time to assess the players before making a few signings in January too.

Reckon you'll get Ancelotti. You are below him, but where else can he go?

Behind Coutinho he's the player we need to keep a hold of the most.
Yes, ahead of Sturridge.

They were crippled by injuries last season too. Nearly all their key players were out for significant periods of time. Any manager would have struggled under those circumstances.

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Coutinho to Barcelona rumours have started

Well hopefully the new manager makes Sakho the corner stone of the defence. I'm a big fan.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11911780/Brendan-Rodgers-news-Sacking-manager-could-cost-Liverpool-10m.html

Liverpool's decision to sack Brendan Rodgers just eight games into the new Premier League season could cost the club more than £10million.

Rodgers was dismissed on Sunday with almost three years remaining on a contract worth, including bonuses, around £5million a year.

Telegraph Sport understands that Liverpool owner, Fenway Sports Group, did not make any provision for the early termination of Rodgers’ contract when he was handed a new deal in May 2014 after narrowly missing out on winning the Premier League title.

Two things I'd look forward to if Klopp was appointed:

- Relationship with the press

I don't know what it was like when Houllier was LFC manager but the press did not like Rafa Benitez at all. I presume it was partly because Mourinho had been appointed the year before and the press LOVED Mourinho whereas Rafa was the opposite of him. Equally SAF did not like Rafa and everyone feared SAF.
The press loved Roy Hodgson but all LFC fans hated him and his bull****.
Kenny was very scathing when he was the manager with the press. I don't think he liked how intrusive they had become since he last managed.
The press generally liked Rodgers at the start. I think by this season, they were itching for a scalp so they could publish loads of articles about the sacking/new manager (like we're seeing now).

Klopp sounds a bit nuts so I think the press will LOVE him. No SAF to turn the press on him and Mourinho seems pretty spiky on his return. I think Klopp will give that crazy charisma that the press lap up.

- Pressing football

I'm a big fan of high pressing football and I think it suits a number of our better players the best. We have a lot of technical and slight players in the squad and I think pressing would compensate how we get bullied when we're sat deep. We saw a lot of it in 2013/14 with Suarez loving to press and Rodgers making the rest of the team do it but he didn't really ask for it during his other 2 and a bit years.