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Original post by Pimped Butterfly

Maybe melodramatic but my love for cricket probably started dying when he was banned.

rip

Can't believe it's been 5 years. And nearly 10 since the forfeit at the Oval. England brings out the worst in us :holmes:

At least you didn't go from 270/1 to 330 all out today!

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Zayn Malik

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Yeah our tours to England are bewitched tbh. Aamir is looking good so far, first game he reached 145 a couple times, which is impressive for his first international game back. Second was pretty ordinary but Guptill and Williamson were on fire.

Indians collapse was dreadful today, as harsh at it is it's Dhawan's and Kohli's fault, once you're set you've gotta be there near the end of the game. A brittle lower middle order doesn't help, but Australia bowled really well at the death.

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Icecream1

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It should have a been a nice win for Barca in the San Mames today, with a clean sheet but Dani Alves should have cleared and ended up costing Barca a goal. They played well without Suarez and Messi. It was good to see Munir get on the scoresheet, he needs it for his confidence.

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The Wavefunction

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http://as.com/diarioas/2016/01/21/english/1453332478_975002.html

Bale transfer details released. Confirmed as £85 million.

Reply 9084

Mackay

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Alves/Mascherano had shockers for Barcelona tonight, by all accounts.

Still, a win is a win for Barca, especially without Messi or Suarez.

Reply 9085

Pimped Butterfly

1

Neymar has 37 goals and assists in 25 games

???

That's a half season of Messi numbers

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Kallisto

Entertainment Forum Helper

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Original post by The Wavefunction

http://as.com/diarioas/2016/01/21/english/1453332478_975002.html

Bale transfer details released. Confirmed as £85 million.

So that is to say that Ronaldo is still the most expensive transfer in Football history? Or what is the convertion from Pounds to Euro?

Original post by Kallisto

So that is to say that Ronaldo is still the most expensive transfer in Football history? Or what is the convertion from Pounds to Euro?

No, you haven't read the contract carefully enough. The price amounts to 99 million euros at the exchange rate of the time. There is a clause in which RM says it will lie to the press about the cost and TH will say nothing to contradict.

This is the 'keep Cristiano happy' clause ...

Reply 9088

Mackay

17

Original post by Zayn Malik

Indians collapse was dreadful today, as harsh at it is it's Dhawan's and Kohli's fault, once you're set you've gotta be there near the end of the game. A brittle lower middle order doesn't help, but Australia bowled really well at the death.

Dhoni needs to go. Yesterday was surely the straw which broke the camel's back.

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Kallisto

Entertainment Forum Helper

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Original post by charco

No, you haven't read the contract carefully enough. The price amounts to 99 million euros at the exchange rate of the time. There is a clause in which RM says it will lie to the press about the cost and TH will say nothing to contradict.

This is the 'keep Cristiano happy' clause ...

Where is TH? so, the Transfer fee for Bale is still unkown? and what about Ronaldo hisself? is his Transfer fee really known?

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Mackay

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Original post by Kallisto

Where is TH? so, the Transfer fee for Bale is still unkown? and what about Ronaldo hisself? is his Transfer fee really known?

£80 million

Original post by Kallisto

Where is TH? so, the Transfer fee for Bale is still unkown? and what about Ronaldo hisself? is his Transfer fee really known?

TH is Tottenham Hotspur...

... it's in London

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doobucks

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http://www.espnfc.us/club/barcelona/83/blog/post/2789297/aleix-vidal-and-dani-alves-in-battle-at-barcelona

Interesting topic of discussion. Do people think that Vidal is likely to take the starting spot this season? I reckon the issue of fitness means that the two will rotate for the meanwhile.

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The Wavefunction

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Original post by Kallisto

Where is TH? so, the Transfer fee for Bale is still unkown? and what about Ronaldo hisself? is his Transfer fee really known?

Bale cost Madrid £85M. The figure was stated as £78M by Madrid in order to keep Ronaldo happy, so he was still the most expensive player of all time.

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Mackay

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Original post by jam277

http://www.espnfc.us/club/barcelona/83/blog/post/2789297/aleix-vidal-and-dani-alves-in-battle-at-barcelona

Interesting topic of discussion. Do people think that Vidal is likely to take the starting spot this season? I reckon the issue of fitness means that the two will rotate for the meanwhile.

It's probably the only curious debate you can have as to who deserves to start for Barcelona, given the automatic selections elsewhere.

Obviously, Alves is ageing - and he's now 32 - so it makes sense to manage his game time and allow Vidal more. There's no reason they can't rotate, though, in truth. Vidal is no spring chicken, though. A few of the comments suggest he's young - and while he's younger than Alves - he isn't exactly a raw youngster who will be grateful for any time he can get on the pitch.

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Aky786UK

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Doubt Ronaldo is as miffed as he would have been had this story come out in 2013 officially that he was the world record but now, won't cause much ripples but I don't see Bale walking into the Real dressing room and giving it large to Cristiano as funny and completely uncharacteristic it would be of the Wales man.

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Kallisto

Entertainment Forum Helper

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Original post by The Wavefunction

Bale cost Madrid £85M. The figure was stated as £78M by Madrid in order to keep Ronaldo happy, so he was still the most expensive player of all time.

To keep Ronaldo happy? is he really so vain that he would be unhappy, yeah even jealous to another football player, if this football player has a higher transfer fee?

Original post by charco

TH is Tottenham Hotspur...

... it's in London

I know where the place of the Spurs is, but I thought the abbreviation refers to a footballer? have not thought about a football club!

Reply 9097

Poyet, GUS

Re: Alves and Vidal, how good even is Vidal? Has he been good for Barca yet? Generally players come to Barca and need a 6 month adjustment period minimum, see Neymar, Rakitic, Mascherano, even Suarez took a few months and he's ****ing sick. If Vidal is truly ready for the first team in terms of meeting his own potential, sure consider using him to give Alves a kick up the arse. Alves is still the best in the world if he wants to be - and that's if the occasion demands it. Don't be surprised to see him hitting proper form as the season nears its climax.

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difeo

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Original post by charco

TH is Tottenham Hotspur...

... it's in London

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- condescending to a non-native English speaker who didn't know what an obscure acronym meant

Reply 9099

Vae

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Original post by Mackay

Alves/Mascherano had shockers for Barcelona tonight, by all accounts.

Mascherano, how? Thought he was one of the stand-out players, very solid for the big part of the game. The only point of criticism is that he didn't look good in the goal, but that one was more on Alves. Also, can only feel sorry for him having to cover up for Adriano.

I didn't think Alves was entirely horrible either tbh. He was provoking that goal for much of the second half with his stilly passes and clearances, but his offensive contribution and the job he did in build-up play, especially in the first half, were decent.

Original post by jam277

http://www.espnfc.us/club/barcelona/83/blog/post/2789297/aleix-vidal-and-dani-alves-in-battle-at-barcelona

Interesting topic of discussion. Do people think that Vidal is likely to take the starting spot this season? I reckon the issue of fitness means that the two will rotate for the meanwhile.

It's a premature and unwarranted one. This season, Sergi Roberto has produced much better performances as RB than Vidal, yet it didn't spark a discussion regarding Alves. Vidal has shown some promise and offers a slightly different approach to RB, but it's not as if he's been mind-blowingly good to warrant a discussion about a permanent starting spot; at least if the same applies to Sergi. He's still improving his defensive skills and developing in that RB role from being a winger more than anything; he hasn't been properly tested either. His main role for the time being is to provide depth for various positions much like Sergi, such as on the wings, as RB and perhaps even LB.

The condition behind keeping Alves was always to bring in competent competition, because Alves needs that sort of motivation to perform at his best level (cf. last season: the spike in his performance when his renewal was under threat). And at his best level, Alves is irreplacable and the best option because of his unique midfield linkup and contribution to build-up, Messi connection and defensive superiority over most options; some of these qualities get overlooked.

Think the article is sensationalist anyway. That talk about a "Gala 11" and pointing out Alves as the notable exception is ignoring the fact that a lot of the clear starters have been rotated this season, not just Alves. Would also disagree with this being the most or only curious debate for Barcelona's team; there are a few more interesting (and much more warranted) ones. CM roles this season? GK situation? Etc.

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