The Liverpool FC Thread XIV

Wrt Weigl, didn't mention him because I was talking about the CM positions in the 4-3-3 rather than the midfield. I was more saying that those three that I stated are the ones who occupy the central midfield positions(where Gotze would likely play in the 4-3-3 as he's probably not better than Mki or Reus out wide) as Weigl plays deep, especially as Gotze doesn't play as a DLP/DM.

Kagawa has played 12 games as a CM and 18 as a CAM so I guess he plays both as they alternate the two formations(so maybe there is space for Gotze but it's not a necessity/desire to have him). Castro is pretty versatile so he can play pretty much everywhere in midfield.

But yeah, eitherway it's not a necessity, but Kagawa's place is most under threat(although Gotze replacing Kagawa's role is not really needed)

Kagawa also got 26 starts(out of 29 appearances and a possible 34) in the league and 5 starts out of 8 europa league appearances so I would be inclined to think he's first choice.

Why would Juve be career suicide? I would think Allegri would try accommodate him in the squad, especially if Morata is going and they don't buy another striker as they could go back to the diamond they played in 14/15 with Gotze at the tip.

I dunno how Whoscored are calculating what position Shinji plays in but it's definitely not what I'd call central midfield.

Shinji - got a lot of games to start the season (with Sahin, Durm injured), is generally part of first team rotation, but Castro, Gundogan, Weigl would be the midfield if everyone was fit and there were no other commitments etc. Shinji is definitely in the first team rotation, done his job well, don't see why Gotze would be targeted to upgrade on him. They need a deeper midfielder to replace Gundogan, whether he moves or not.



It's Italy: **** pay, retirement home, one-team league, poor exit opportunities, doesn't suit Gotze's style of football etc.

I guess. I ain't watched Dortmund(well in the second half of the season anyway) so I can't say. I assume they've been using 4-2-3-1 more though.

I don't see the need for Gotze at Dortmund either but if they can afford him I guess it can help them challenge Bayern. Dortmund's lack of rotation options under Klopp made it impossible for him to sustain a title challenge as well as stay competitive in europe, in that case Gotze going back to Dortmund makes sense.

They need to buy a CB badly though and I think Gotze is Liverpool bound anyway. I'd like him at Chelsea but don't see the need for him if Conte wants to go 4-2-4/4-3-3.

I haven't watched loads either but did the scouting before our tie.

Again, don't see the point. Dembele, Pulisic, Passlack, Ramos, Castro, Durm, (Kagawa) are sufficient back up for a front three/four of Auba, Reus, Mkhi, (Kagawa). Kicker said they're not interested and they're as close to fact as media gets.

They have Ginter to step in for Hummels (people said he was the long term replacement anyway) so they'll probably get Sule or Tah. I feel like I got this info off qua but I'm not sure.

21 goals or assists this season, which is more than 'superstars' Firmino and Coutinho. Only three were penalties. I think 6.5 is extremely harsh. I can see him starting a similar number of games next season, he's productive, gritty and he's a winner, and we clearly don't have enough of those.

LvG > Klopp. LvG 1 final, 1 trophy. Klopp 2 finals 0 trophies.

By that logic, Barnsley > United

Barnsley: 2 finals, 1 trophy (so far)
United: 1 final, 1 trophy

Pls leave

No, by that logic Barnsley= United, and if they lose the Play-Off final United> Barnsley you dumbass


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A team getting to 2 finals and winning 1 is obviously better than a team only getting to 1 final and winning 1.

Pls re-evaluate your life.

100% win rate in the final>

This is the dumbest argument you've ever made.

Seriously.

So you're saying that a team that reaches cup finals but lose have had a successful season


Are you Swansea


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No, I'm saying that if you're using the previous logic, a club that has won the same trophies as another but gotten to more finals has obviously had a better season.

Pls leave u fool

No, I'm saying that if you're using the previous logic, a club that has won the same trophies as another but gotten to more finals has obviously had a better season.Pls leave u fool

By that logic, Barnsley > United

Barnsley: 2 finals, 1 trophy (so far)
United: 1 final, 1 trophy

Pls leave

Coming from the man who made this argument!!

My logic was in response to the previous logic posted. Logicception.

FK was disputing that Barnsley > United because United have a better win %

It wasn't really though, the previous logic included the fact that United and Liverpool compete for the same trophies
Barnsley compete for inferior trophies