Who would you vote for in a general election tomorrow?

OP

To anyone wondering what the weird symbols are, I put flags next to each party:

Labour 🇵🇸
Tory 🇮🇱
Liberal Democrat 🏳️*🌈
Green 🏳️
SNP/ Plaid 🇪🇺
Ukip 🇷🇺

Reply 5

Labour are the puppets of the Kremlin.

vote for the Conservative and Unionist Party.

Reply 6

fallen_acorns

I really don't know.

I'm very tempted by labour

I am not left-wing at all, but labour are tempting me for the next election for a number of reasons:

1, I am very much in favor of their re-nationalization policies. I want to see the railways, water companies and - in an ideal but impossible world - power companies all nationalized. Having a few years of labour, would at least give me this. I would hate all of the social policy that came along with it, but in the long-run, its a positive that I would take from a labour goverment.

2, as another poster pointed out to me - a labour goverment and the huge political mess that it would create for the 'estabilshment' may be the fastest way to the radical change that I want, and see as nessasry for the long-term prosperity of the country. I want radical electoral reform, and a complete shift away from our current party poltiics. The shock of corbyn would push more in this dirrection, than yet another tory goverment

3, I want to see the destruction of the current conservative party, and it replaced by new actually representative parties. Loosing an election would hopefully help push it further towards a split, and its demise.

...but I don't know, the social policy and awful financial management of a labour goverment would piss me off, for 5 years.. so are the 3 good things above, worth it? I am not sure.

On the other hand, I could go for another tory goverment - and keep the status quo. In the short term, its much more in-line with my political leanings then a labour goverment would do.. but it re-inforces our current systems, and leaves me just as far away from radical change as I am now... but, I would be more content with our dirrection and the competancy of those leading us for 5 years.

In short - I don't know

Reply 7

OP

Original post by the bear

Labour are the puppets of the Kremlin.

vote for the Conservative and Unionist Party.

No that’s UKIP.

the Conservative party are puppets for Israel. See:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Friends_of_Israe

Reply 8

hello_shawn

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Reply 9

Original post by Davij038

No that’s UKIP.

the Conservative party are puppets for Israel. See:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Friends_of_Israe

oh dear another Jew Hating friend of Jez.

Reply 10

qwertyK

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Original post by Davij038

No that’s UKIP.

the Conservative party are puppets for Israel. See:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Friends_of_Israe

He's kind of right. Take my grandparents for example. They have some communist sympathies and are lifelong Labour supporters. They support Russia with Putin.

Reply 11

OP

Original post by qwertyK

He's kind of right. Take my grandparents for example. They have some communist sympathies and are lifelong Labour supporters. They support Russia with Putin.

I don’t doubt these people exist.

What I do doubt is they have a fraction of the power and influence as the conservative friends of Israel.,

(edited 5 years ago)

Reply 12

OP

Original post by the bear

oh dear another Jew Hating friend of Jez.

You di realise that this is basically what the left do by calling anyone who disagrees with them racist. You’re a Tory aren’t you?

Lets debate the facts. If labour is a puppet of Russia, how come the Tories aren’t puppets if Israel/ Saudi Arabia

Reply 13

Original post by Davij038

You di realise that this is basically what the left do by calling anyone who disagrees with them racist. You’re a Tory aren’t you?

Lets debate the facts. If labour is a puppet of Russia, how come the Tories aren’t puppets if Israel/ Saudi Arabia

facts are not part of the Labour/Putin weltanschauung. they would be wasted on you.

Reply 14

Kinyonga

Lib-Dems. But please don't mention Marine le Pen, we're still getting over the shock of nearly having her as president.

Reply 15

fallen_acorns

then again, having just watched this weeks question time - as much as I like nationalisation, and want radical political reform.. the left-leaning members of the panel were just awful.

Thornberry's career these days is just bassed entirely on her saying how awful she feels for X group in society.. and how awful things are for Y group in society. She perminantly looks like she wants to fake crying to make her point stronger. Tonight she said how awful our education system is, and questioning whether another pannelist actually has kids in school.. whilst forgetting to mention that she doesn't send her kids to state comprehensive schools.. and she cares so so much about care-workers, and how great it is that foreigners cared for her dad! forgetting that low-skilled immigration (like care-work) has been proven to depress wages, meaning she is hurting the very care-workers she claims to value so much!

and the poet guy... absolute nob. The UKs problem with immigration is because its xenaphobic. Gets pointed out that the UK statistically is one of the least xenaphobic places in europe... acts like a sarcastic **** and plays the victim - without refuting or adressing the point in stead. That whole exchnage, with the muslim girl chiming in after to say how awful it was for a white man to comment on this - is american identity politics slipping in more and more into our normal political dialog.

So, I don't know. Labour may be the best for my long-term goals, but leftist politics in general pisses me off so much, I am not sure I can stomach voting for them.

Reply 16

OP

Original post by the bear

facts are not part of the Labour/Putin weltanschauung. they would be wasted on you.

Sure

Reply 17

OP

Original post by Kinyonga

Lib-Dems. But please don't mention Marine le Pen, we're still getting over the shock of nearly having her as president.

Oh so you’re a French liberal? What do you think of Macron?

i think le Pen would be more popular than him

Reply 18

OP

Original post by fallen_acorns

then again, having just watched this weeks question time - as much as I like nationalisation, and want radical political reform.. the left-leaning members of the panel were just awful.

Thornberry's career these days is just bassed entirely on her saying how awful she feels for X group in society.. and how awful things are for Y group in society. She perminantly looks like she wants to fake crying to make her point stronger. Tonight she said how awful our education system is, and questioning whether another pannelist actually has kids in school.. whilst forgetting to mention that she doesn't send her kids to state comprehensive schools.. and she cares so so much about care-workers, and how great it is that foreigners cared for her dad! forgetting that low-skilled immigration (like care-work) has been proven to depress wages, meaning she is hurting the very care-workers she claims to value so much!

and the poet guy... absolute nob. The UKs problem with immigration is because its xenaphobic. Gets pointed out that the UK statistically is one of the least xenaphobic places in europe... acts like a sarcastic **** and plays the victim - without refuting or adressing the point in stead. That whole exchnage, with the muslim girl chiming in after to say how awful it was for a white man to comment on this - is american identity politics slipping in more and more into our normal political dialog.

So, I don't know. Labour may be the best for my long-term goals, but leftist politics in general pisses me off so much, I am not sure I can stomach voting for them.

So left wing economic views with conservative social views? Good man, this is actually what most people want

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