UK to end freedom of movement for EU citizens on day one of Brexit, under new plan

You guy's do realise stopping freedom of movement isn't a one way street.

That means none of you can move to Europe to find jobs in case the British economy doesn't survive a hard brexit. You've de facto made your world smaller, confined to an island one might say.

As a German-American i find most of the comments on this thread, uneducated, uninformed and rather small minded. Scared immigrants might come here and take your unskilled labor picking fruit in the fields? Or might live off the dole! Yet you won't be upset with your own lazy countrymen who sit on their ass and have added no value EVER.

I have right to remain, and am one year from having a British degree. So i could careless if they stop freedom of movement, but it's simply silly to think that will improve your life quality.

And you've restricted yourselves to just one economy already contracting... 😂 😂 😂

Why do you think that Colin? The majority of NI voted remain, the majority NI people reject the DUP and other unionists, a NI CU like the Backstop would keep NI in the same boat it's currently in.

I don't see how that would return to the troubles, unless there is more anti EU movement in NI than the press are reporting, which would not surprise me

Like the German one you mean?
Do you realise that people will still be able to work in other countries despite brexit, they will just need to have more qualifications.
As for your remarks on being scared about immigrants coming and taking our fruit picking jobs you are, I'm afraid, showing extreme prejudice, there are a huge amount of people in this country that have seen wages stagnate and in some cases shrink due to an enormous influx of low skilled workers that are happy to work for the minimum wage as for them it's a massive pay rise, people are living on the breadline because they have mortgages that pre-date all this happening.
It's very easy to cast these accusations when sitting in your ivory tower but there are 2 sides to every story.

Why do you think that Colin? The majority of NI voted remain, the majority NI people reject the DUP and other unionists, a NI CU like the Backstop would keep NI in the same boat it's currently in.

I don't see how that would return to the troubles, unless there is more anti EU movement in NI than the press are reporting, which would not surprise me

It's also easy to know... That wages have been stagnating in all developed economies basically uniformly... Another reason the UK also has so low wages is due to the former strength of the £, once again an entirely British decision to devalue the currency by desiring an exit from the EU. Any loss of PPP is at large a fault of the british public. Simply saying immigrants are at fault is an easy populist cop out that doesn't take into account broader factors. Such as lack of unions, corporations having wage paying power. Also those in lower skilled work can hardly expect rising wages, that doesn't occur in any nation. A waiter is no better or worse off anywhere really, in a market economy your economic value determines your wage.

Wages were stagnating/decreasing way before the referendum.
I'm not suggesting immigration is the only reason, but uncontrolled it has exasperated it .

You guy's do realise stopping freedom of movement isn't a one way street.

That means none of you can move to Europe to find jobs in case the British economy doesn't survive a hard brexit. You've de facto made your world smaller, confined to an island one might say.

As a German-American i find most of the comments on this thread, uneducated, uninformed and rather small minded. Scared immigrants might come here and take your unskilled labor picking fruit in the fields? Or might live off the dole! Yet you won't be upset with your own lazy countrymen who sit on their ass and have added no value EVER.

I have right to remain, and am one year from having a British degree. So i could careless if they stop freedom of movement, but it's simply silly to think that will improve your life quality.

And you've restricted yourselves to just one economy already contracting... 😂 😂 😂

regarding this I am really interested what EU citizens had to do to kept being healthcare covered. Do they get healthcare from the country they are originally from even if they have not lived there for years?

Good comments.

The truth is that Britain, like all major developed economies, requires a steady inward stream of both skilled and unskilled migrants to undertake a range of jobs that the locals simply don't want to and never will do now, ranging from crop picking to social care and construction to refuse sorting. There are also far more skilled jobs available in our economy (or were, until Brexit-idiocy came along as a real thing) than locals to fill them, which is why, for example, there are 300,000 highly skilled young French professionals working in London.

Good, this was the main reason most people voted to leave - tiny little island with limited space + millions of people coming to live from the outside = untenable position and inevitable backlash.

Removing freedom of movement for Europeans will be reciprocated by the EU. It is one of the key reasons why I was so opposed to Brexit.

It is a shame so many British people regard a loss of personal liberty as a good thing.

Don't know why i'm even replying but.......the Netherland's which is much smaller doesn't seem to complain...yet has a much higher population density. The only reason the UK is even crowded is because everyone and their mom needs to live just in England...plently of physical space, let's not kid ourselves. I highly doubt the North of England can complain of overpopulation. Scotland has what 6 million people in it?!? it's half the size of England lol.

You don't need to reply i honestly apologize for even commenting.

Glad I came over without having to get a visa due to freedom of movement of the EU - I'm here to stay

In all seriousness - ending freedom of movement was a genuine concern, but such an abrupt stop to all immigration announced this late, will not be met with warm reception in the EU who will take action and creates more uncertainty.

I'll admit that yes it surely plays a role, it's not really voices like your's that i'm critical of. It's primarily some of the first comments in the thread that really irked me. They basically made it seem like ending freedom of movement was going to raise wages overnight and fix all not only UK but developed world issues lol. So i simply felt like pointing out that in fact British citizens were losing some significant rights also. For example if your dream was to be a highly skilled (bear with me) artisan baker in Paris...obviously that employment is in all reality of government qualifications list low skilled word. Yet an individuals dream maybe to become a baker in Paris...that dream is now pretty much dead. It shouldn't just be those with multiple degrees free to move and make life decisions in Europe in 2019 imo. Or what about moving to Switzerland to work? the highest salaries on this side of the Atlantic are paid there. That will become much more difficult for UK worker's also.

Because it doesn't need a massive movement in NI for this sort of thing to happen, just the few that have been itching for a return to the old ways, do you really think that they would just accept being separate from the rest of the UK?
I don't.

The problem is in the main it only worked one way with far more people coming here than people leaving to go elsewhere. Unfettered immigration was never going to be a good thing.

You can still travel and settle elsewhere if you want, the process just takes a bit longer that's all. That's not a removal of personal freedom.