Rory Stewart leaves the Tories

Original post by Smack

An election would risk a Johnson majority though. The current situation, however ludicrous, at least prevents a hard Brexit.

Oh yea, let's not risk letting the will of the people actually happen. #Democracy

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BrexitPopulist

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Original post by Wired_1800

Thanks for sharing these articles. I was shocked that he stole another man’s Mrs.

@BrexitPopulist, you can have a look at these articles.

Thanks. Personally don’t think it’s that big a deal 🤷🏻*♂️

Who knows, I do t know the guy. He could be a massive creep.

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Original post by BrexitPopulist

Thanks. Personally don’t think it’s that big a deal 🤷🏻*♂️

Who knows, I do t know the guy. He could be a massive creep.

I disagree. One should not take another man’s wife.

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Original post by Wired_1800

Brexit needs to be triggered by October 31, so we can get the Labour Party into Downing Street.

Spot on, it needs to be triggered so I can vote labour again from a selfish POV

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Original post by Wired_1800

I disagree. One should not take another man’s wife.

To be fair it does take two to tango, the idea he is completely to blame is silly just like the 'homewrecker ****' tag that get labelled on women who do the same thing.

The wife/husband are the ones who's made the commitment mate, not the single man/woman who get involved with them.

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BrexitPopulist

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Original post by Wired_1800

I disagree. One should not take another man’s wife.

I agree but by the sound of if they’d broken up already. ...

I agree with you, marriage should be sacred but we live in a very fallen world . I’m merely pointing out that by today’s standards what he did appears to me to not be that bad. If we lived in a more spiritual society then yes certainly it is terrible. Perhaps I’m just cynical...

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Original post by BrexitPopulist

I agree but by the sound of if they’d broken up already. ...

I agree with you, marriage should be sacred but we live in a very fallen world . I’m merely pointing out that by today’s standards what he did appears to me to not be that bad. If we lived in a more spiritual society then yes certainly it is terrible. Perhaps I’m just cynical...

I agree that society is dying.

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Original post by Burton Bridge

To be fair it does take two to tango, the idea he is completely to blame is silly just like the 'homewrecker ****' tag that get labelled on women who do the same thing.

The wife/husband are the ones who's made the commitment mate, not the single man/woman who get involved with them.

Yes, it takes two to tango. I blame the woman as well, but Stewart the mans’s friend. I think there had to be an element of loyalty on both sides.

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Original post by Burton Bridge

Spot on, it needs to be triggered so I can vote labour again from a selfish POV

Ok

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BrexitPopulist

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@Wired_1800 @Burton Bridge

Ah 2 labour brexiteers, interesting.

1: not that you have a plethora of choice but how can you justify supporting a party whose bulk of MPs and Membership are not only pro remain and would view you as morally suspect but also would take us back into the EU given half a chance?

2: When Corbyn croaks it, isn’t (and what it represents) dead as a movement? I can see a ‘centre-left’ ‘unity’ candidate like Lucy Powell or someone go full Blairite..

3: whilst I am sympathetic to Corbyn’s anti war policies and anti austerity, let’s be honest they haven’t got a hope in hell.

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Original post by Wired_1800

Some commentators think he is popular among the young and liberal electorate. As London is more liberal than the rest of the country, do you think he has a chance?

he is popular among young liberal voters.. as a tory. I mean, in the leadership race he did very well with liberal voters, but that was when he was standing in a field of only tories.

In the mayoral election it will be between him and khan, not to mention the green candidate and the lib dem caniddate. I simply can't see him beating khan to the liberal vote. Khan has done such a good job of walking the exact line that liberal london voters want him to walk. Hes said exactly the right things, hates the right people, supports the right poltiics etc.. and hes not a posh white boy, unlike Rory..

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Original post by fallen_acorns

he is popular among young liberal voters.. as a tory. I mean, in the leadership race he did very well with liberal voters, but that was when he was standing in a field of only tories.

In the mayoral election it will be between him and khan, not to mention the green candidate and the lib dem caniddate. I simply can't see him beating khan to the liberal vote. Khan has done such a good job of walking the exact line that liberal london voters want him to walk. Hes said exactly the right things, hates the right people, supports the right poltiics etc.. and hes not a posh white boy, unlike Rory..

I guess he may struggle to beat Khan

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Original post by Wired_1800

Yes, it takes two to tango. I blame the woman as well, but Stewart the mans’s friend. I think there had to be an element of loyalty on both sides.

Fair play mate, going for you're mates girl/fella is a bit low

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Original post by BrexitPopulist

@Wired_1800 @Burton Bridge

Ah 2 labour brexiteers, interesting.

1: not that you have a plethora of choice but how can you justify supporting a party whose bulk of MPs and Membership are not only pro remain and would view you as morally suspect but also would take us back into the EU given half a chance?

2: When Corbyn croaks it, isn’t (and what it represents) dead as a movement? I can see a ‘centre-left’ ‘unity’ candidate like Lucy Powell or someone go full Blairite..

3: whilst I am sympathetic to Corbyn’s anti war policies and anti austerity, let’s be honest they haven’t got a hope in hell.

1. I dont know about Burton, but I am not alone in supporting UK’s exit from the EU. Some of my friends want that to happen, but we want a decent deal. I agree that we are in the minority and other Labour members think we are closet Tories. I debated a Labour friend who wants to become an MP in the future and she accused me of propping up Johnson with my support of Brexit. I vehemently reject that crass accusation.

2. Blarite politics is small ‘c’ conservatism. Blair was a liar who disowned his Party IMHO to dine with the enemies. I was in favour of a unity candidate like Chuka Umunna, but he showed his disdain for the whole Party, which annoyed me.

3. That is the error that people like you make. They underestimate Corbyn because they live in the bubbles and engage with people like yourself. Tbe country is aching and in pain, we need radical and deep societal changes to years of unfairness and declining prosperity. People claimed that Theresa May would end Corbyn’s leadership, but then he secured 30 more seats. Don't underestimate Corbyn and his support.

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Original post by Burton Bridge

Fair play mate, going for you're mates girl/fella is a bit low

It was low.

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Original post by Wired_1800

It was low.

Agreed, I stand corrected. Maybe it was the beer talking :colondollar:

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Original post by Burton Bridge

Agreed, I stand corrected. Maybe it was the beer talking :colondollar:

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