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    So happy it's half term, needed the break!

    I've got my second out of three masters essays due after the break and I've got a friend visiting me thursday-sunday.. gonna be a busy few days!
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    (Original post by xxstace123xx)
    Anyone else in uni over half term :dry:
    Yep, me too. We don't get half terms
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    (Original post by alabelle)
    Yep, me too. We don't get half terms
    That's just mean!

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    But if your placement schools have half term but you don't, are you back in lectures for a week or something? Find that quite strange that no everyone gets half term. We always got half term.
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    (Original post by Sportycb)
    But if your placement schools have half term but you don't, are you back in lectures for a week or something? Find that quite strange that no everyone gets half term. We always got half term.
    I never did! Went in half term for some silly lectures. But tbf it wasn't as full on as say the beginning of the year at uni. Maybe a couple hours and only three days in the week. Plus it allowed you to catch up with others on the course.


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    Ugh, I would not be keen on that. It is a well needed break, that's for sure. Besides, I am normally busy in half terms anyway, with essays and planning, so it is nice to have the time to catch up. I'm on half term now but in the library doing next week's essay -_- .
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    (Original post by alabelle)
    Yep, me too. We don't get half terms

    (Original post by qwerty_mad)
    I never did! Went in half term for some silly lectures. But tbf it wasn't as full on as say the beginning of the year at uni. Maybe a couple hours and only three days in the week. Plus it allowed you to catch up with others on the course.


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    D'you not get reading weeks at all!?

    The primary PGCE at my uni don't get half term but they do get reading weeks.
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    (Original post by Samus2)
    D'you not get reading weeks at all!?

    The primary PGCE at my uni don't get half term but they do get reading weeks.
    Not on my PGCE. Every half term we were at uni but during the two week holidays there was no uni.


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    (Original post by Sportycb)
    But if your placement schools have half term but you don't, are you back in lectures for a week or something? Find that quite strange that no everyone gets half term. We always got half term.
    We go into uni for extra lectures.

    (Original post by Samus2)
    D'you not get reading weeks at all!?

    The primary PGCE at my uni don't get half term but they do get reading weeks.
    Nope, nothing
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    I had half term last week. Started a 3 week literacy and numeracy placement in year 6 today. Love the school and the class are great so I'm pretty happy :-)
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    (Original post by qwerty_mad)
    Not on my PGCE. Every half term we were at uni but during the two week holidays there was no uni.


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    (Original post by alabelle)
    We go into uni for extra lectures.

    Nope, nothing

    Oh wow! I do not envy you at all! I need these weeks off haha
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    OMG, trying to plan lessons on telling the time and I've totally and utterly confused myself. I can't even remember which way is clockwise Oh dear!
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    (Original post by peony flowers)
    OMG, trying to plan lessons on telling the time and I've totally and utterly confused myself. I can't even remember which way is clockwise Oh dear!
    I taught time a few weeks ago and it went totally wrong! I got a lot of advice on how I could have done it better though, I can share it if you want?
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    Can someone give me a bit of insight to how pay works here?

    So say you're a teacher on 22k, I know that is your yearly wage, and once tax/NI is taken away, that is what you get. But how does it work for non-teaching jobs?

    For example I've seen a learning mentor job, which is 20k pro rata, term time only. So does this mean you will receive no income in the school holidays? So you get 20k minus all the school holidays? I just want to have a more clear idea of what yearly wage I would actually be taking home if a job says pro rata/term time only.
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Can someone give me a bit of insight to how pay works here?

    So say you're a teacher on 22k, I know that is your yearly wage, and once tax/NI is taken away, that is what you get. But how does it work for non-teaching jobs?

    For example I've seen a learning mentor job, which is 20k pro rata, term time only. So does this mean you will receive no income in the school holidays? So you get 20k minus all the school holidays? I just want to have a more clear idea of what yearly wage I would actually be taking home if a job says pro rata/term time only.
    Firstly, every job is advertised with its gross salary, before tax and ni is taken out. On 22k you would expect to take home roughly 18k minus student loan and pension, so probably about 1350 a month.

    Term time only jobs mean you would only get paid for 4 weeks of holiday (legally everyone has to have this. So 20k \ 52 weeks = 385 x 43 (39 school weeks + 4) = 16538

    After tax and ni you'd take home 14200 ish

    Hope this helps
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    (Original post by Sportycb)
    But if your placement schools have half term but you don't, are you back in lectures for a week or something? Find that quite strange that no everyone gets half term. We always got half term.
    Well I am doing a SCITT (early years/ KS1) . We get Friday off, but the other days we have been doing training things. So Monday I had PE, today we had outdoor learning and tomorrow I have a thing on assessment.
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    (Original post by alabelle)
    I taught time a few weeks ago and it went totally wrong! I got a lot of advice on how I could have done it better though, I can share it if you want?
    That would be fantastic if you had time I've got Year 1 so it's still the basics!
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    (Original post by Bobble1987)
    Firstly, every job is advertised with its gross salary, before tax and ni is taken out. On 22k you would expect to take home roughly 18k minus student loan and pension, so probably about 1350 a month.

    Term time only jobs mean you would only get paid for 4 weeks of holiday (legally everyone has to have this. So 20k \ 52 weeks = 385 x 43 (39 school weeks + 4) = 16538

    After tax and ni you'd take home 14200 ish

    Hope this helps
    Yeah I know you wouldn't take home 22k. Thanks for the info on what term time only means for pay. I'll know how to work it out now. Seems like it is a big disadvantage though. 20k reduced to 16538 THEN all the tax, etc, taken off. How depressing -_-


    Thanks!
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    (Original post by peony flowers)
    That would be fantastic if you had time I've got Year 1 so it's still the basics!
    Ok well I was teaching Y2, so we had to do time to five minutes. Time is funny though. Your ability groups could be totally messed up up because some children are taught it by their parents very early, others never even look at a clock. So you might very well have children who have a watch, who are working at a y2 level because they're fab.

    My problem with time was that I didn't break it down into enough steps. If I could do it again, I'd get the children to spend time looking at the clock, telling me things they notice. I'd break down exactly what I want them to do (which way does the clock go round, minute/hour hands etc.) and test them before starting the topic properly so I could reset my ability groups. I'd spend a lot more time covering the 'basics'.

    Sorry if any of this seems obvious, I just had a hard time teaching this. The children had a great deal of misconceptions and because I didn't break it down into tiny, achievable steps, these weren't corrected. Good luck! I'm sure it'll go better than it did for me, haha.
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    (Original post by alabelle)
    Ok well I was teaching Y2, so we had to do time to five minutes. Time is funny though. Your ability groups could be totally messed up up because some children are taught it by their parents very early, others never even look at a clock. So you might very well have children who have a watch, who are working at a y2 level because they're fab.

    My problem with time was that I didn't break it down into enough steps. If I could do it again, I'd get the children to spend time looking at the clock, telling me things they notice. I'd break down exactly what I want them to do (which way does the clock go round, minute/hour hands etc.) and test them before starting the topic properly so I could reset my ability groups. I'd spend a lot more time covering the 'basics'.

    Sorry if any of this seems obvious, I just had a hard time teaching this. The children had a great deal of misconceptions and because I didn't break it down into tiny, achievable steps, these weren't corrected. Good luck! I'm sure it'll go better than it did for me, haha.
    Time is really tricky! Like you say, you never know until you teach it who's going to find it easy or hard. Some children just really struggle to get it regardless of their concepts of number, I think it's cause it's a kind of strange concept... The idea of going back to the beginning after 60 when our number system is decimal etc.

    Xxx

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