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    It says enough that to praise giroud you have to compile a list of defensive stats.

    How about trying this for size

    0.4 goals per league game to van persies 0.79 per league game how has this ****ing charlatan made a living at arsenal. He's a mid table player at best. Half the season people were calling for bendtner to start over him and in our big champions league and FA cup game even ****ing wenger chose to give sanogo who can't hit a ****ing barn door starts over giroud
    67% pass completion ****ing joke
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    (Original post by 419)
    Yo son. Giroud wasn't RVP replacement. Just like Cesc, RVP wasn't directly replaced.

    I hope you find peace.
    Oh but actually he was mate we sold robin van persie and bought giroud in if that's not a replacement I don't know what is

    **** sake


    Also I still maintain that stance that giroud isn't at fault for everything the **** that's surrounded him like wilsha, cazorla, ozil and podolski all deserve as much blame
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    It says enough that to praise giroud you have to compile a list of defensive stats.

    How about trying this for size

    0.4 goals per league game to van persies 0.79 per league game how has this ****ing charlatan made a living at arsenal. He's a mid table player at best. Half the season people were calling for bendtner to start over him and in our big champions league and FA cup game even ****ing wenger chose to give sanogo who can't hit a ****ing barn door starts over giroud
    67% pass completion ****ing joke
    About a week ago you said how you're the one who opposes the "idiots" who slate Giroud.

    Edit: Just seen your last post. Fair enough.
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    (Original post by Will-2609)
    About a week ago you said how you're the one who opposes the "idiots" who slate Giroud.
    I do I ****ing hate them idiots that blame him for all our losses when it's the shower of **** he's surrounded by just as much as him

    I found it funny that giroud was getting the blame for 6-0 and 5-1 spankings tbh though
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    Ffs I honestly don't know if I want to support arsenal next season I'm pulling my hair out over some of the **** I've endured week in week out

    Someone reassure me
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    It says enough that to praise giroud you have to compile a list of defensive stats.

    How about trying this for size

    0.4 goals per league game to van persies 0.79 per league game how has this ****ing charlatan made a living at arsenal. He's a mid table player at best. Half the season people were calling for bendtner to start over him and in our big champions league and FA cup game even ****ing wenger chose to give sanogo who can't hit a ****ing barn door starts over giroud
    67% pass completion ****ing joke
    Rare occasion where I agree with butty.

    I also think giroud would be a decent mid tabled team striker.
    But he just doesn't cut it for a top team likely arsenal.

    When the league is as competitive as it has ever been, you need real quality on attack - you need to score goals.
    Having brilliant creation means nothing if you don't have a striker that can do his job at a consistent, efficient level.

    EDIT: he obviously isn't to blame for as many losses as people say he is, but he "should" be the reason for many more wins.
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    Ffs I honestly don't know if I want to support arsenal next season I'm pulling my hair out over some of the **** I've endured week in week out

    Someone reassure me
    The **** you've endured? Try supporting a non-huge club. My club has a current squad size of about 12, has just been sent down to League One via a penalty awarded for a dive, and all our players are free to leave for nothing due to a relegation clause in their contract.

    And we've just been taken over by Louis Tomlinson.

    "The **** I've endured"... From an Arsenal fan... Sigh.
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    (Original post by Luke_Mckeown)
    Rare occasion where I agree with butty.

    I also think giroud would be a decent mid tabled team striker.
    But he just doesn't cut it for a top team likely arsenal.

    When the league is as competitive as it has ever been, you need real quality on attack - you need to score goals.
    Having brilliant creation means nothing if you don't have a striker that can do his job at a consistent, efficient level.
    I thought I was on your ignore list
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    I thought I was on your ignore list
    You are, but i still watch your posts when we aren't arguing.

    Anything constructive to say on my previous post or should I just leave now?
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    I do I ****ing hate them idiots that blame him for all our losses when it's the shower of **** he's surrounded by just as much as him

    I found it funny that giroud was getting the blame for 6-0 and 5-1 spankings tbh though
    Didn't you know that conceding goals are solely because the striker had a bad day.
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    (Original post by Will-2609)
    The **** you've endured? Try supporting a non-huge club. My club has a current squad size of about 12, has just been sent down to League One via a penalty awarded for a dive, and all our players are free to leave for nothing due to a relegation clause in their contract.

    And we've just been taken over by Louis Tomlinson.

    "The **** I've endured"... From an Arsenal fan... Sigh.
    Id give my left nad for Louis Tomlinson to take over arsenal. A world class singer might actually be a decent signing for a change cus the footballers we seem to go after do sweet **** all
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    Yes he clearly is rvps replacement. How anyone could argue that simple logic is beyond me.

    No he doesn't do it where it matters. 3 goals in 18 big games :-)

    Constant loss of possession

    Constant missing of chances

    Absolutely awful pass completion rate in the final third

    Regularly messes attacks up

    Always gets dispossessed


    The one attacking stat you picked he wins on by about 2 key passes with 1000 minutes played more than the other two

    A nice graph to show the downgrade :-)
    Comparing RVP best season in an Arsenal shirt to a player who cost less than £10M is stupidity at it's best. Once again I say Giroud was meant to play alongside RVP. Wenger has been eager to use 4-4-2 again. Bids for Higuain and Suarez last summer show that Wenger wants another striker to contrast and compliment Giroud. Giroud even confessed himself he'd prefer playing along side another striker because it helps get the best out of him.

    Arsenal as a team have performed poorly in the big games yet Giroud is blamed. Typical fickle scapegoating I've come to expect from some Arsenal fans.

    How does he mess up attacks? He's been involved in the best attacking moves at Arsenal. Team goal against Norwich? Assist in FA Cup final? I can get may more examples to show how instrumental Giroud id in build up play

    The fact that Giroud isn't clinical is the main criticism that I can level at him, I disagree with the other stuff.

    Honestly what do you expect from a striker for the price of £9.6M?
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    Ffs I honestly don't know if I want to support arsenal next season I'm pulling my hair out over some of the **** I've endured week in week out

    Someone reassure me
    we will never have a better team than city or chelsea but we will constantly aim for fourth and keep the bank of england happy while maintaining our co-efficient in europe by only reaching the last 16 but never challenging like the almighty oil clubs of our time. wenger is an incompetent manager with no passion who is a voyeur and a specialist in failure and his dinosaur tactics will never match up to the chosen one. our best players will leave us on a seasonly basis because they finally see the light in that all other clubs in the premier league have more ambition than than the arsenal, that is why both our previous captains are at our competitors and we have the likes of arteta donning the captains armband.

    i'm not really sure on how to reassure an opposition fan but i think that should do it.
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    (Original post by Luke_Mckeown)
    You are, but i still watch your posts when we aren't arguing.

    Anything constructive to say on my previous post or should I just leave now?
    We don't have anywhere near the level of midfield depth that is needed to play with a striker like giroud. The second Walcott and Ramsey are out you get midtable (and that's being generous) performances from him. We look so ****ing bad in attack it's so disjointed and teams just sit high up vs us because there's no threat in behind. This is why the likes of Everton batter us
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    Oh but actually he was mate we sold robin van persie and bought giroud in if that's not a replacement I don't know what is

    **** sake


    Also I still maintain that stance that giroud isn't at fault for everything the **** that's surrounded him like wilsha, cazorla, ozil and podolski all deserve as much blame
    I know it might be difficult to contemplate for you but he wasn't a direct replacement for RVP.

    RVP scored 37/94 goals that season next closest was Theo with 11 and also the only one to get to double figures. Next joint top scorers were Arteta et al with 6.

    2012/13- 4 players reached double figures. Guess who? Theo+ those 3 players we signed aka the Real RVP replacement (please stand up). Contribution form the rest remained more or less the same :teehee:

    2013/14- RVP replacements again finished within top 4 of our scoring chart with Giroud the only one that improved.
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    (Original post by sevchenko)
    Comparing RVP best season in an Arsenal shirt to a player who cost less than £10M is stupidity at it's best. Once again I say Giroud was meant to play alongside RVP. Wenger has been eager to use 4-4-2 again. Bids for Higuain and Suarez last summer show that Wenger wants another striker to contrast and compliment Giroud. Giroud even confessed himself he'd prefer playing along side another striker because it helps get the best out of him.
    How do you play Ozil in a 442?
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    (Original post by sevchenko)
    Comparing RVP best season in an Arsenal shirt to a player who cost less than £10M is stupidity at it's best. Once again I say Giroud was meant to play alongside RVP. Wenger has been eager to use 4-4-2 again. Bids for Higuain and Suarez last summer show that Wenger wants another striker to contrast and compliment Giroud. Giroud even confessed himself he'd prefer playing along side another striker because it helps get the best out of him.

    Arsenal as a team have performed poorly in the big games yet Giroud is blamed. Typical fickle scapegoating I've come to expect from some Arsenal fans.

    How does he mess up attacks? He's been involved in the best attacking moves at Arsenal. Team goal against Norwich? Assist in FA Cup final? I can get may more examples to show how instrumental Giroud id in build up play

    The fact that Giroud isn't clinical is the main criticism that I can level at him, I disagree with the other stuff.

    Honestly what do you expect from a striker for the price of £9.6M?
    His price is completely ****ing irrelevant we're talking about his credentials to play for arsenal

    Suarez and higuain would of had giroud sat on the bench don't kid yourself otherwise. We would play the same formation because wenger isn't going to sign ozil to play 4-4-2 is he for **** sake.

    How many chances did giroud miss vs city? Chelsea? Utd?

    Giroud also came out in the January window saying he didn't want another striker signed so that kills your point there

    I'm really happy for his link up play for the goal at Norwich and his speculative back heel but id probably be happier knowing that he didn't fail it 100 times before it came off
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    We don't have anywhere near the level of midfield depth that is needed to play with a striker like giroud. The second Walcott and Ramsey are out you get midtable (and that's being generous) performances from him. We look so ****ing bad in attack it's so disjointed and teams just sit high up vs us because there's no threat in behind. This is why the likes of Everton batter us
    Couldn't agree more.
    Your first team going forward (like ours) is scary.
    But when you lose a single key player, everything can fall apart.

    I'm not saying a new striker is the solution to everything, but you need somebody with flair, somebody that can score a goal from nothing, a striker that can win you a game when you're playing badly.
    Giroud can do none of those things.

    I wouldn't be down heartened though; you definitely aren't far away from a title winning squad (srs).
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    (Original post by sr90)
    Doubt many players outside England have tbh :laugh: Who's going to choose to play under some unknown when there is Wenger, Mourinho, Van Gaal etc? This has Spurs 2013 written all over it.
    Disagree.

    Spurs had one player capable of winning games. Suarez wasn't even their main game winner last season, even if he was pretty influential. Sturridge was a bigger game winner than Suarez last season.
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    (Original post by 419)
    I know it might be difficult to contemplate for you but he wasn't a direct replacement for RVP.

    RVP scored 37/94 goals that season next closest was Theo with 11 and also the only one to get to double figures. Next joint top scorers were Arteta et al with 6.

    2012/13- 4 players reached double figures. Guess who? Theo+ those 3 players we signed aka the Real RVP replacement (please stand up). Contribution form the rest remained more or less the same :teehee:

    2013/14- RVP replacements again finished within top 4 of our scoring chart with Giroud the only one that improved.
    Nope giroud replaced rvp, podolski replaced gervinho and cazorla put rosicky to the bench. Simple as that. Dress it up however you want but that's what happened
 
 
 
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