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    (Original post by sarahjane48)
    However, I understand that the 'academicness' of pupils who chose this type of subjects would be higher that a group taking, say media or sociology perhaps.
    What I don't understand is why some people (and I don't mean you, I agree with your post) take this to mean that the subjects themselves as easier. Just because the people who take media studies are generally less academic than those who take maths, that doesn't mean maths is easier than media studies, it just means that teachers and careers advisors are guiding less able students into subjects they perceive to be easier. The ones who take eg media studies because they think it's easy tend to be the ones who find out the hard way that it isn't and fail, same with any subject.
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    quite simply, the oldest ones are best looked upon, particularly by oxbridge/ the better redbricks. i.e. English, Maths, Sciences, Languages etc..
    Things like politics and law have traditionally been degree subjects really, and if you are applying say for law at an oxford colllege, they would much rather you do history A level than law A level. though that is not to say you won't get in having done newer A levels like law or politics. plenty do, it's just perhaps a little harder.
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    What do you think of mine and my friends chosen A-levels?

    Me- maths, bio, pysch, english lit, MAYBE critical thinking (want to do a pysch degree)

    Heather- English lit, Englisg lang, classics, photograph (english teacher)

    Amber- English lang, maths, media studies, pysch (engish degree)

    We chose what we like but would all like to go to topish unis.
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    (Original post by XxJaninexX)
    What do you think of mine and my friends chosen A-levels?

    Me- maths, bio, pysch, english lit, MAYBE critical thinking (want to do a pysch degree)

    Heather- English lit, Englisg lang, classics, photograph (english teacher)

    Amber- English lang, maths, media studies, pysch (engish degree)

    We chose what we like but would all like to go to topish unis.
    You- fine. Psychology is one of the less respected subjects, but your others are good and it's what you want to do at uni, so it shouldn't be a problem.

    Heather- also fine. Photography probably isn't that respected, but the others are good.

    Amber- media studies and psychology aren't that respected, but the others are good. One thing I would say though is that you need English lit rather than lang for most top uni English degrees, unless she specifically wants to do a lang degree or something like linguistics.

    Overall those choices sound good. You enjoy them, which is the most important thing, and as long as your choices include at least 2 traditional subjects, that should keep unis happy.
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    Obviously it is relevant to the degree course/university you are applying for (as some people have mentioned). Of course it also depends on how snooty the admissions tutor who looks at your UCAS form will be. But remember, this thread is about the "most respected" A-levels and not the "hardest".

    From my own intuition, other people's opinions (teachers, admissions tutors, lecturers, uni deans etc), I would list the subjects in three tiers of respectability, thus (and not in order within the tier):

    TOP TIER (Tres well respected):

    English literature
    History
    Physics
    Chemistry
    Biology
    Geography
    Art
    Music
    Economics
    French, German, Spanish, Latin (all the languages)
    Maths

    (These top tier subjects tend to be core academic subjects which are intellectually challenging, but crucially, have been going a long time. Fail safe.).

    MIDDLE TIER (respected by most):

    Sociology
    Psychology
    RE
    Business Studies
    ICT
    Law
    English language

    etc

    LOWER TIER (hmmm):

    Media Studies
    PE
    Travel & Tourism
    Photography
    Computing
    General Studies
    Critical Thinking (I think it's more of a low than a medium but it is borderline)

    etc



    Obviously this is all relevant. If you are studying Physiotherapy or something at uni, PE might well be an asset. If you are applying for law, it most likely will not be.
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    (Original post by zhivago)
    Obviously it is relevant to the degree course/university you are applying for (as some people have mentioned). Of course it also depends on how snooty the admissions tutor who looks at your UCAS form will be. But remember, this thread is about the "most respected" A-levels and not the "hardest".

    From my own intuition, other people's opinions (teachers, admissions tutors, lecturers, uni deans etc), I would list the subjects in three tiers of respectability, thus (and not in order within the tier):

    TOP TIER (Tres well respected):

    English literature
    History
    Physics
    Chemistry
    Biology
    Geography
    Art
    Music
    Economics
    French, German, Spanish, Latin (all the languages)
    Maths

    (These top tier subjects tend to be core academic subjects which are intellectually challenging, but crucially, have been going a long time. Fail safe.).

    MIDDLE TIER (respected by most):

    Sociology
    Psychology
    RE
    Business Studies
    ICT
    Law
    English language

    etc

    LOWER TIER (hmmm):

    Media Studies
    PE
    Travel & Tourism
    Photography
    Computing
    General Studies
    Critical Thinking (I think it's more of a low than a medium but it is borderline)

    etc



    Obviously this is all relevant. If you are studying Physiotherapy or something at uni, PE might well be an asset. If you are applying for law, it most likely will not be.
    What on earth are you talking about? Computing is often considered one of the hardest subjects and is well respected.
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    (Original post by Bis)
    What on earth are you talking about? Computing is often considered one of the hardest subjects and is well respected.
    I'm not saying it's not hard, but from what people have said (Oxbridge tutors, other lecturers etc), it isn't that respected. People who choose to do Computing don't seem like the most interesting individuals to be honest, but that's irrelevant because it's just my personal opinion. (No offence). Computing is obviously something of substance, but from what I'm led to believe it's akin to all the other courses, such as Sociology, offered at A-level (substantially watered down and better off left to degree level).

    An 11 year old could pass it. (http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2194966.stm)
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    I take Physics/Chemistry/Biology/CT/Maths and ICT

    ICT is by no means a micky mouse subject, but if you ask be its very easy to get an A in. It's just a biatch of a subject because of the endless amount of crap you have to do for your CW. Reams and reams of crap.

    EDIT: ICT doesn't require any intelligence at all, just a fair bit of work. Come to think of it, Biology is the same. Actually, the only subjects that I really have to apply myself in are Physics and Chemistry, maybe maths, so I guess that's why they're more respected, in ICT/Biology and so forth you are just memorizing heaps of useless crap.

    I think its REALLY UNFAIR that someone with A's in A levels in Sociology/Psychology/History/IT can take my place at university. I'm very happy to see that the majority of the higher tier universities recognise this.
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    I know that universities value some subjects more than others. Out of curiousity, which are the ones they consider good, which are the ones they consider bad, and which are the ones they consider ugly?

    And how do they feel towards R.S. and Politics?
    Why oh why oh why are you asking a bunch of 16-20 yr olds what admissions tutors think?

    If you honestly truley want to know which A levels are respected by admissions tutors then ASK THEM. Most universities it's possible to find contact details for admissions tutors, send them an email asking what they would think of the combination of subjects you're considering. ATs are human beings (well some of the engineering admissions tutors are borderline) and they generally respond quickly and positively to genuine enquiries - especially from someone showing such early interest in their subject and university.

    I've spoken to more admissions tutors this morning than have posted on this thread and to be perfectly honest the vast majority of posts on this thread are ill informed at best and utter *******s at worst.
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    (Original post by Inkerman)
    I think its REALLY UNFAIR that someone with A's in A levels in Sociology/Psychology/History/IT can take my place at university. I'm very happy to see that the majority of the higher tier universities recognise this.
    What are you on about? I know sociology, psychology and ICT aren't that well respected, but history is one of the most respected subjects you can take! And you come across as extremely arrogant by assuming that you deserve a place at university more than anyone else just because you think your subjects are harder.
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    Why oh why oh why are you asking a bunch of 16-20 yr olds what admissions tutors think?

    If you honestly truley want to know which A levels are respected by admissions tutors then ASK THEM. Most universities it's possible to find contact details for admissions tutors, send them an email asking what they would think of the combination of subjects you're considering. ATs are human beings (well some of the engineering admissions tutors are borderline) and they generally respond quickly and positively to genuine enquiries - especially from someone showing such early interest in their subject and university.

    I've spoken to more admissions tutors this morning than have posted on this thread and to be perfectly honest the vast majority of posts on this thread are ill informed at best and utter *******s at worst.
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    (Original post by zhivago)
    An 11 year old could pass it.
    Well, shock horror dum dum DUUUUUMMM that proves a lot. Similarly Maths is not well respected, because a 10 year old can pass it. :rolleyes:

    http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/1/hi/education/884023.stm
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    (Original post by supercat)
    All this "respected A-Levels" stuff is a lot of nonsense in my opinion! I know it's an issue because the unis make it one, but it does grate that people feel they have to choose 'respected' subjects. If they work hard, they'll get good grades (or at least achieve to the best of their ability), whereas if they don't, they simply won't. It's also clear that some people have talents in different places; it seems completely unfair that a candidate feels bad for choosing a subject such as ICT when that is what they are good at. You might say they should do Computing instead, but not all centres offer this (mine, for instance, did not).

    You might say I'm biased; I take English Lit, German, Psychology and Media (dropped ICT last year). I do have a mix of the traditional and the so-called Mickey Mouse subjects. But I put in an equal amount of work for all of them. Psychology, for example, is extremely difficult; there is a lot to know and as well as that you have to be able to analyse it rather than just rote learning. Last year in January exams, most people got Us! And it's not like our school isn't good, either. As for media, yes, I find it challenging. We learn endless amounts of theory, and I'm currently in the middle of my coursework which is difficult. The media (ironically) gives it a bad press because it's a new subject, but then English Literature used to be laughed at too.

    It saddens me that unis can't see this, but that's just the way it is. Don't let them be the be-all and end-all of your decisions, but make sure you have a couple of traditional subjects to appease them.
    So where do we draw the line? A Level Playstation Studies?

    The point of a qualification is not to enjoy it, it is to prove your intelligence and knowledge.

    If you look at the vast majority of people that do traditional subjects, they are very clever. The vast majority that do vocational subjects chose so because they dont like academic subjects> because they arent good at them > less clever.

    We do not customise qualifications just so those who arent good enough for academic subjects can select ones they like. If they cannot cope with the main subjects then they shouldnt be doing A Levels!

    The only reason the %pass rate for A Levels is increasing is because of mickey mouse subjects being taken into account!
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    (Original post by dragons_circle)
    Well, shock horror dum dum DUUUUUMMM that proves a lot. Similarly Maths is not well respected, because a 10 year old can pass it. :rolleyes:

    http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/1/hi/education/884023.stm
    1) i cannot see the point in taking it early unless you get an A, unless you are going to retake the next year. Otherwise its pointless

    -"i took A Level Maths when i was 10"

    "what did you get?"

    -"a B grade, but i was 10 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    "so? who says you've improved to A Grade standard since?"

    etc etc


    2) Mickey mouse subjects were just created so that people that couldnt hack real subjects wouldnt feel left out. Im not sure int othe history of most of them, but it wouldnt2) surprise me if labour conjuered them up at all!
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    (Original post by zhivago)
    I'm not saying it's not hard, but from what people have said (Oxbridge tutors, other lecturers etc), it isn't that respected. People who choose to do Computing don't seem like the most interesting individuals to be honest, but that's irrelevant because it's just my personal opinion. (No offence). Computing is obviously something of substance, but from what I'm led to believe it's akin to all the other courses, such as Sociology, offered at A-level (substantially watered down and better off left to degree level).
    From what I've heard it is well respected though. The fact that you classify it below ICT is pretty ludicrous.

    (Original post by zhivago)
    An 11 year old could pass it. (http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2194966.stm)
    And? A 9 year old has got an A in maths at A-level before, which is on your 'high tier' list.
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    (Original post by sarahjane48)
    I'm planning on takin Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Chemistry/Economics for A level. I know these subjects are all 'well looked' upon, but that is not the reason I chose them, I chose them purely because they are my strongest subjects and I find them most interesting.
    I do all of those! I think if you like both chemistry and economics, then you should take them both, as (in our school at least) there's barely any work for economics aside from the coursework...and chemistry and economics are the easiest out of those 5 (in my opinion anyway)..:p:
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    (Original post by Jonacristel)
    A few people have mentioned Critical Thinking- I take it as an enhancement for two hours a week, which, ever since I signed up for it out of interest, is something I dread attending now. It's quite useful for putting in your UCAS form and is interesting, but knowing that I will receive no grade for it and my preferred uni does not accept it just makes it worse.
    Which uni? But most unis take Critcal Thinking, when Ir ead sites most of them just dont accept general studies, but no mention of critical thinking.

    Why won't you get a grade, AFAIK its a proper AS level. My school says it helps to distinguishe good and better students et.c..
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    (Original post by futureaussiecto)
    i cannot see the point in taking it early unless you get an A, unless you are going to retake the next year. Otherwise its pointless
    So unless it suits your purpose, you ignore the facts. I personally find a 10 year old getting a B in A level maths impressive; may I ask what you are expecting to get? And if it is an A (which I suspect, flicking through your previous posts) why aren't you doing it early?

    And I definitely agree with bis, computing rather outranks ICT for respectability.
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    The 11 year old thing was meant to be taken with a pinch of salt, it was a joke. Ok then, computing is the exception, I'm only going on what I've been told anyway.
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